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There is obviously a problem with teaching pupils in the english language, at least in Phetchabun province, since no one in my wife's family can speak a single word of English.

Ditto in my case - also from Phetchabun.

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as far as I can see this has nothing to do with hiring foreigners to teach English, it is solely concerned with hiring Thai teachers?

Here is the very first sentence.

'The Phuket Primary Education Area Office has relaxed the requirements for foreigners to be hired as English-language teachers at government schools in Phuket.'

Take the time to read all the article, understand what is written, "comprehension and clear thinking" you will quickly discover that the person you are being critical of is actually correct. The education department has decided to relax the requirements on foreigners because they are unable to source enough locally qualified teachers for the reasons stated.

Let's hope you are not intending on applying for a job until 6th. grade English has been attained. It is safe to assume that Phuket will be sourcing teachers that comprehend the English language.

Thanks for the entertainment.

Reading yours and other posts it amazes how self important so many are. Why would they assume that the only people capable of speaking and teaching the English language come from western countries.

I imagine there would be thousands of of teachers out there that do not expect to received over inflated salaries to teach in a foreign country. If they the westerners were competent enough as teachers they would still be teaching in their country of origin. As many western education departments now expect results from teacher, it is safe to assume that the majority of western teachers teaching in Thailand are doing so because they cannot gain suitable employment elsewhere.

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I don't understand why they want native born English speakers when many Indians, Sri Lankans and Malays speak better English than the average English person., especially those with provincial accents.

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I don't understand why they want native born English speakers when many Indians, Sri Lankans and Malays speak better English than the average English person., especially those with provincial accents.

They may speak English but the Indian, Sri lankan accents are atrocious. Of course some of the Brits I've heard are just as bad. A person with a bad Accent in English is actually making matters worse for a student.

Imagine a Thai English accent with a Indian accent thrown in. totally unrecognizable as English. That's why they want native English speakers. So they can be understood!

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I don't understand why they want native born English speakers when many Indians, Sri Lankans and Malays speak better English than the average English person., especially those with provincial accents.

"...better than your average English person?" You sure about that? whistling.gif And why would an educated Indian bother teaching Thais English anyway? blink.gif

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Good article about the awareness of teaching here in Thailand. First, there needs to be a failure policy. Let's start simply with this. I'm sure all you expats(someone not from Thailand) has this in their school system back in their country. There's much to implement this policy but the people in power will(might) lose face? It's not until the higher-ups that make the decisions to make this so. who can get more pay($$$) based upon their teacher's passing rate. Like America, they have what's called PTA. I know, this IS difficult to do here. But, if the true teachers here, the ones that actually have a curriculum, can make a stand with there issues to their 'bosses' and propose more $! First step is CURRICULUM, do WE? (Thailand have one?). However, I do believe the ones that can actually teach DO deserve more money($).

Just because you have a Bachelors, Masters, or Doctorate doesn't mean SH*%! It's the ability to teach, inspire, and help others who are in want/need for intellect. <br>

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

do you have the contact details of the school as im in thailand and have a diploma and tesol certificate...and like surin?

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Hi, I'm a highly qualified teacher, currently working at Singapore American School, and looking to transfer to Thailand. I'm interested in hearing more about this position..

If you're a qualified teacher why on earth would you be looking at 30,000thb a month job? Bottom of the rung teacher with full teaching degree starts at 80,000thb a month here in Phuket at one of the the International Schools. There are several here: Phuket International Day Academy, British International School, Quality International School (huge franchise) and Headstart IS. There are heaps of International Schools all over Thailand.

You won't get people with a Bachelor of Education or Grad Dip in Education at such low wages. Maybe TEFL or TESOL people, but even they are getting sick of being exploited and ripped off by dodgy companies that make all these promises and then take your passport and don't pay you.

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I could be wrong on this, but I read somewhere that even the current Foreign Minister cannot speak English!

I'm afraid you are wrong on this, though the rest of your post was very interesting.

Dr Surapong has a masters and a doctorate from the United States and has taught at university level in the US. (Doesn't mean he's the right man for the job, of course.)

I think the previous Democrat Education Minister and the Deputy Minister of Education did not speak English. I heard both of them make a terrible mess of speeches written for them in English at a World Teachers' Day forum before an international gathering. On another occasion, at an English-medium (World Bank) seminar I attended the minister gave the introductory speech entirely in Thai. This is the same minister who said English could not be an official language for teaching purposes here because other countries would think Thailand had been colonized!

Thanks for the correction. As I said, I wasn't sure, as the article was some months back, so memory may have failed me a bit.

(Doesn't mean he's the right man for the job, of course.) Now, Thailand actually does have "the right man for the job" in many cases. Unfortunately, the "right man" is usually ignored and the position given to someone from the family, or a political crony, who knows nothing about the job.

I remember the comment the Minister made about how English could not be an official language as other countries would think Thailand had been colonized. That one had me laughing for a very long time. Made me wonder if anyone had ever pointed out to him that both Hong King and Singapore were once colonies, but look at how far ahead of Thailand they are in just about every area?

Your comparisons are based on pointless assumptions. Let's try listing the countries that had been or have been colonised and you soon discover how detrimental it has been to them. Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar,Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, all of Africa, Central and South America but to name a few. Did the people of HK have any rights? No! Do they now? Very few! Did Singapore? No! Does Singapore now, it's improving, but you still wouldn't want to live there.

The importance of English is declining as world language. It used to be French until they became overly self-indulgent, English is not far behind. If a country wants to be at the fore front of a modern advancing world,they would be better advised to instruct Chinese or Indian. These so called advanced western industrialised countries are swiftly becoming nobodies as they spend the next few centuries paying off debt due to greed and the costs of sustaining imperialism.

It's a myth that Thailand has not been colonised, they tend to overlook the Burmese, Chinese who own and run the country, Japanese and now the Americans. It helps if you understand a little more than 60 years of Thai history. There is another 7 centuries before the devastating effect of allowing the USA to colonise Thailand during the Vietnam massacre and US advancement of imperialism into South East Asia.

To this day American's are amazed that the Japanese attacked. Brainless fools. Might have something to do with the invasion of Japan by the USA in the 19th century solely for the purpose of gaining access to goods that they had squandered, whale oil for their industrialized growth.They had already killed off their own supplies. Ring any bells? Texas dry, let's meddle in the Middle East then. Prior to the US invasion, Japan was a peaceful insular country. Before the American invasion of Thailand, Pattaya was not the world's largest brothel. Am convinced syphilis has made Americans brain dead.

What the Thais learnt from these imperialist was that they were and still are an easy touch. Thailand made billions and continues to do so, yet the imperialists still believe they are a superior civilisation. The communists control their people for the greater good of all, while the Americans control their citizens for the greater good of a few. Walk outside of the tourist spots of the USA and you soon realise what a disgraceful state that country actually is in and has been for decades. All in the name of GOD.

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I've rarely seen a shortage of any kind of employee if the salary is right.

Yes, but still a step in the right direction. In fact, it is one of the most intelligent actions I have heard of by government at any level in Thailand to address an obstacle to Thailand's ability to compete with other emerging economies of the world. All Thailand really has to to do is copy what other's (i.e. Singapore) have done for years now. The trouble seems to be that those with power and money don't want any changes. Thailand is getting "left in the dust" with their short-sighted thinking! Too bad - they could have been so prosperous! The jewel of S.E. Asia, even. . . .

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Burma was an English colony.

It has millions of English speakers train by the British (the real McCoy).

Why not just hire Burmese English Teachers. Cheap and good.

A joke?whistling.gif

That was in the 60is, so a than trained 20+ year young English teacher is now at least 70+laugh.gif

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There is obviously a problem with teaching pupils in the english language, at least in Phetchabun province, since no one in my wife's family can speak a single word of English.

-Udon Thani- -Chayaphum-

Everybody learns English in his school, 2 hours a week?

Anyway, nearly nobody from that students-Schoolboys, girls can talk English!blink.giflaugh.gif

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Give the foreigners a green card, let them try to work where ever they wish. Obviously if they don't speak the language they won't get a job at the 7-11, but if they can get a job, any freaking job then let them have it. Pay them whatever the Thai people make doing the same job, and if the boss doesn't like their performance they can be fired and have a nice day. The Thai that go to English speaking countries to teach Thai, if that ever happens I don't know, I'm sure would not be making 2 and 3 times what the westerners make. This might raise some hackles, but why do we get paid so dam_n much? If you can't afford to live here, then you shouldn't live here. The Thai manage, why can't the foreigners? The problem is for the most part teaching sucks. The students don't care, the teachers don't care, the school doesn't care as long as it looks good to have a Farang on the premises. The realization is for most, that if you don't teach, you can't live here, and knowing that is the reason I chose to pursue internet marketing. But until the Thai get off their high horse about only people from India and Orientals can work here easily, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Without diversity there is no strength. Thailand is such a homogenized country, it's no wonder they are behind in so many areas like maturity.

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