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A good start would be to raise the salaries offered. I've passed on every position advertised down there because they want to pay "backpacker" salaries. Also, adding insurance and housing allowances would help.

There you have it...All they have to do is 'UP' the salary.

I was asked to teach at a Thai school, full-time for a salary of 10,000 Baht...this was after I showed them proof of degree, CELTA and 3 and a half years business teaching experience in Bangkok.

To drag Thailand successfully into the modern age will require government funding, which can only come from taxation, and they are simply not prepared to tax those who can make a difference.

Beyond that what is there to discuss?!

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For some reason, I don't think 3 years, 1 month, and 2 and a bit weeks is long enough to solve the English language problems!

You reap what you sow. This ASEAN AEC is going to cause big problems for Thailand.

I disagree. Over 3yrs? You will have Thais speaking better English than most expats. Not that that is setting the bar too high. Have you ever acually taken a few semesters of a foreign language as part of your curriculum at school? It is not like a 5 weeks of get acquainted expat classes.

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

Doing a TESOL certificate is a lot of work and should prepare someone who wants to teach quite well.

I did a TESOL course some time ago and remember thinking that there would be no way to get a good score if I wasn't a native speaker.

How about permitting retired native speakers (with a TESOL qualification) to supliment their income by teaching English.

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For some reason, I don't think 3 years, 1 month, and 2 and a bit weeks is long enough to solve the English language problems!

You reap what you sow. This ASEAN AEC is going to cause big problems for Thailand.

Thai's just never learn. They should have started 20 years ago. Them teaching English is why they can't speak proper English. A Thai teaching a Thai English. A complete circle jerk. But, one thing is for sure, they are experts at their culture. So sad.

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Also not mentioned is that Phuket is more expensive for all foreigners and rents are expensive too so i agree with others

pay more and you will get better teachers who will want to stay and teach also maybe make the visa a little bit easier to get for teachers,

if Thailand really wants the better teachers for their children they should at least look at these things for a start

Just paying more does not solve the problem. Yea know I know people who say they are teachers and get big money and still can not do the job. It is difficult finding people who are qualified and have the experience too. And even then are they good? who knows. work permits and visas are not that difficult to get. It just takes the correct paperwork. I know have been doing it for years now.

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For some reason, I don't think 3 years, 1 month, and 2 and a bit weeks is long enough to solve the English language problems!

You reap what you sow. This ASEAN AEC is going to cause big problems for Thailand.

I disagree. Over 3yrs? You will have Thais speaking better English than most expats. Not that that is setting the bar too high. Have you ever acually taken a few semesters of a foreign language as part of your curriculum at school? It is not like a 5 weeks of get acquainted expat classes.

You were obviously educated in Thailand.

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

Where in Surin the only one I have seen is 30K

The correct answer would have been ...

Where in Surin? The only position, that I have seen, offered B30,000.

I'm guessing that you eliminated yourself from the candidature?

ROF LOL...

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

do you have the contact details of the school as im in thailand and have a diploma and tesol certificate...and like surin?

Sent you a PM...

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

Hi, I'm a highly qualified teacher, currently working at Singapore American School, and looking to transfer to Thailand. I'm interested in hearing more about this position..

Send me a PM with your contact details

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I could be wrong on this, but I read somewhere that even the current Foreign Minister cannot speak English!

I'm afraid you are wrong on this, though the rest of your post was very interesting.

Dr Surapong has a masters and a doctorate from the United States and has taught at university level in the US. (Doesn't mean he's the right man for the job, of course.)

I think the previous Democrat Education Minister and the Deputy Minister of Education did not speak English. I heard both of them make a terrible mess of speeches written for them in English at a World Teachers' Day forum before an international gathering. On another occasion, at an English-medium (World Bank) seminar I attended the minister gave the introductory speech entirely in Thai. This is the same minister who said English could not be an official language for teaching purposes here because other countries would think Thailand had been colonized!

Thanks for the correction. As I said, I wasn't sure, as the article was some months back, so memory may have failed me a bit.

(Doesn't mean he's the right man for the job, of course.) Now, Thailand actually does have "the right man for the job" in many cases. Unfortunately, the "right man" is usually ignored and the position given to someone from the family, or a political crony, who knows nothing about the job.

I remember the comment the Minister made about how English could not be an official language as other countries would think Thailand had been colonized. That one had me laughing for a very long time. Made me wonder if anyone had ever pointed out to him that both Hong King and Singapore were once colonies, but look at how far ahead of Thailand they are in just about every area?

Your comparisons are based on pointless assumptions. Let's try listing the countries that had been or have been colonised and you soon discover how detrimental it has been to them. Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar,Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, all of Africa, Central and South America but to name a few. Did the people of HK have any rights? No! Do they now? Very few! Did Singapore? No! Does Singapore now, it's improving, but you still wouldn't want to live there.

The importance of English is declining as world language. It used to be French until they became overly self-indulgent, English is not far behind. If a country wants to be at the fore front of a modern advancing world,they would be better advised to instruct Chinese or Indian. These so called advanced western industrialised countries are swiftly becoming nobodies as they spend the next few centuries paying off debt due to greed and the costs of sustaining imperialism.

It's a myth that Thailand has not been colonised, they tend to overlook the Burmese, Chinese who own and run the country, Japanese and now the Americans. It helps if you understand a little more than 60 years of Thai history. There is another 7 centuries before the devastating effect of allowing the USA to colonise Thailand during the Vietnam massacre and US advancement of imperialism into South East Asia.

To this day American's are amazed that the Japanese attacked. Brainless fools. Might have something to do with the invasion of Japan by the USA in the 19th century solely for the purpose of gaining access to goods that they had squandered, whale oil for their industrialized growth.They had already killed off their own supplies. Ring any bells? Texas dry, let's meddle in the Middle East then. Prior to the US invasion, Japan was a peaceful insular country. Before the American invasion of Thailand, Pattaya was not the world's largest brothel. Am convinced syphilis has made Americans brain dead.

What the Thais learnt from these imperialist was that they were and still are an easy touch. Thailand made billions and continues to do so, yet the imperialists still believe they are a superior civilisation. The communists control their people for the greater good of all, while the Americans control their citizens for the greater good of a few. Walk outside of the tourist spots of the USA and you soon realise what a disgraceful state that country actually is in and has been for decades. All in the name of GOD.

What a complete and utter load of drivel.

From syphilis making Americans brain dead, to communists controlling their people for the greater good.

Marxism is dead. Not before it cost tens of millions of lives, but dead it is.

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

You're school is offering 60,000 baht a month in Surin and no one is interested? I would love to stay in contact with you if you are still offering that salary when I get my degree next May. I will graduate with an education degree and would like to have that position. Surin is actually a neat city in my opinion.

Thanks for the interest and I agree that Surin is a neat place. Just remember we're talking about Surin in Isaan. If you are interested then PM me with your contact details.

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I did a TESOL course some time ago and remember thinking that there would be no way to get a good score if I wasn't a native speaker.

Sorry but I have worked with dozens of non-natives who got excellent scores on the CELTA and TRINITY. Certainly none of them were Thais though, and many of them also had teaching qualifications from their respective countries and several years experience, in addition to impeccable English.

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Great, we'll therefore see yet another bunch of cheap "English teachers" with no real teaching accreditation and who will not care about teaching properly (just have fun, fun, fun). Yeay.

Sorry but i do not agree that all non qualified teachers do not care, i am not qualified and would love to teach english to primary school kids, but how do i apply if i do not have formal qualifications?

Looks like your luck is in ;) if your willing to work for a pittance.

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as far as I can see this has nothing to do with hiring foreigners to teach English, it is solely concerned with hiring Thai teachers?

Here is the very first sentence.

'The Phuket Primary Education Area Office has relaxed the requirements for foreigners to be hired as English-language teachers at government schools in Phuket.'

Surely that means that they are relaxing the requirement for schools to employ foreign teachers. I do not think that it means they are relaxing the requirements of foreign teachers'abilities and qualifications. Reading the rest of the article carefully it is clear that they are looking to use Thai teachers to fill these posts by getting them to learn English.

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A lot of this has to do with the wages. I know a guy that teaches at Uni level and get less than 30K a month. But a lot of it has to do with location... we have an ELS and we're offering 60K a month... but when you say it's in Surin they're not interested. Still needing two TESOL teachers...

You're school is offering 60,000 baht a month in Surin and no one is interested? I would love to stay in contact with you if you are still offering that salary when I get my degree next May. I will graduate with an education degree and would like to have that position. Surin is actually a neat city in my opinion.

Thanks for the interest and I agree that Surin is a neat place. Just remember we're talking about Surin in Isaan. If you are interested then PM me with your contact details.

For most teachers who are qualified and have chosen this work as a career, not as a way of making money while traveling or as a way of scraping by in Thailand, THB60,000 a month just isn't going to cut it. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

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