WayneBlueRhinostaffsHopkinson Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Anyone no if i can knock DPF out of cat on my MK4 shogun with out having it re-mapped out of ECU! would my engine mangement light stay on? just woundering as they wouldnt be no Resistance for ECU to notice? any help would be great as the t@#ting things doing my head in .. on verge of breaking for parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Wish l knew about this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Wish l knew about this stuff. My Vigo was getting on for 6 yr but there was no trouble with DPF but I believe they can be trouble if fitted on older diesel engine designs, they are just do the same sort of job as a catalytic converter on petrol engine, green stuff you know !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Wish l knew about this stuff. My Vigo was getting on for 6 yr but there was no trouble with DPF but I believe they can be trouble if fitted on older diesel engine designs, they are just do the same sort of job as a catalytic converter on petrol engine, green stuff you know !! The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! Edited December 3, 2011 by Woodsie888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Wish l knew about this stuff. My Vigo was getting on for 6 yr but there was no trouble with DPF but I believe they can be trouble if fitted on older diesel engine designs, they are just do the same sort of job as a catalytic converter on petrol engine, green stuff you know !! The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) The diesel particle filter can be taken out but you will have to have the ECM ( ECU ) re-programmed for the warning light to stay off and to stop the ECM from entering limp mode. Wish l knew about this stuff. My Vigo was getting on for 6 yr but there was no trouble with DPF but I believe they can be trouble if fitted on older diesel engine designs, they are just do the same sort of job as a catalytic converter on petrol engine, green stuff you know !! The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! 2.7 has a cat. Edited December 3, 2011 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! 2.7 has a cat. And so to the diesels - a particulate filter is not the same thing as a catalytic converter though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! 2.7 has a cat. And so to the diesels - a particulate filter is not the same thing as a catalytic converter though I was always led to believe that because of being sold in America and Europe also knew that Thailand was getting more strict on emissions. My friend garage owner in England I remember told me that there not the same but still clean up some of the exhaust emissions. He use to collect cars from a lot of people especially living near pikey camps ( Travelers / Gipsy's ) that found there cars all of a sudden very noisy, electric wire damage and sometimes fuel line damage if they had had a full tank at the time. Edited December 4, 2011 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) The reason you had no DPF trouble with your Vigo is not to do with Toyota's reliability, but quite a lot to do with the fact it does not have one! 2.7 has a cat. And so to the diesels - a particulate filter is not the same thing as a catalytic converter though I was always led to believe that because of being sold in America and Europe also knew that Thailand was getting more strict on emissions. My friend garage owner in England I remember told me that there not the same but still clean up some of the exhaust emissions. He use to collect cars from a lot of people especially living near pikey camps ( Travelers / Gipsy's ) that found there cars all of a sudden very noisy, electric wire damage and sometimes fuel line damage if they had had a full tank at the time. You are correct, it is a cat. But in your original post you stated you had no trouble with the DPF on your VIGO in "getting on for 6 years". As MRO mentioned quite correctly, a cat and Diesel Particulate Filter are two entirely different devices. Edited December 4, 2011 by Woodsie888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) You are correct, it is a cat. But in your original post you stated you had no trouble with the DPF on your VIGO in "getting on for 6 years". As MRO mentioned quite correctly, a cat and Diesel Particulate Filter are two entirely different devices. Yeah !! I thought that they referred to DPF's as " cats " anyhow. I had a read up and they say that America in 2007 require diesel vehicle to have a " cat " and a DPF so I guess they have got a better system design by now and maybe the original OP has the old system. But he still has to remap the ECM if he get's shot of it. Edited December 5, 2011 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Postman Pat had a Black and White Cat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Postman Pat had a Black and White Cat... Yeah !! Think I hear what you are saying !! but at the end of the day " catalysis " is something that accelerate's a chemical reaction of a catalyst so for me whether it's diesel or petrol you can call it whatever you bloody like. Edited December 5, 2011 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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