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Daughter presents new evidence

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Pheu Thai party-list MP Khattiya "Dear" Sawatdipol yesterday presented new evidence to police about the killing of her father, red-shirt Khattiya "Seh Daeng" Sawasdipol.

Before talking to Pol Colonel Wicharnwat Borirakkul, deputy chief of Metropolitan Police Division 1, Dear told reporters that the information she obtained corroborated Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung's claim that the killing was carried out by police.

She declined to say anything about the rank of the officer involved pending her testimony to police investigators.

Dear said she would give police information from witnesses to the shooting of Seh Daeng near Bangkok's Sala Daeng Intersection on May 15, 2010, during a red-shirt rally.

Over the past one year and eight months, the situation has improved, more and more people dared to speak out and she received videos and witness testimonies, she said.

She expressed confidence that the justice system would punish the wrongdoer.

Wicharnwat said police would soon interview four or five more witnesses, while the ballistics test had been performed by the Forensic Science Institute. There has been some confusion as to whether the sharpshooter was positioned at the Dusit Thani Hotel or Chulalongkorn Hospital.

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-- The Nation 2012-01-19

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Reporting to the police that she suspects a policeman killed, her when in fact the police were on the Red side, and it wasn't an army person afterall, it's getting pretty murky. If you father leads an armed vigilante force defending terrorist type actions you should expect him to get shot, <snip>

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Inflamatory.
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Reporting to the police that she suspects a policeman killed, her when in fact the police were on the Red side, and it wasn't an army person afterall, it's getting pretty murky. If you father leads an armed vigilante force defending terrorist type actions you should expect him to get shot, <snip>

And was it not the same man setting off those grenades, he had the pulled pins around his hat..! And was it not those same vigilantes (men in Black) who murdered the young Army Captain.. It was a great shot that took that madman out... well done whoever it was , police, army or just a concerned citizen..! Was he not just a plain old aerobics teacher anyhow..? And if it were not for his death, his daughter would still be selling Som-tam in the backstreets...!

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Reporting to the police that she suspects a policeman killed, her when in fact the police were on the Red side, and it wasn't an army person afterall, it's getting pretty murky. If you father leads an armed vigilante force defending terrorist type actions you should expect him to get shot, <snip>

I agree. It's speculation at best, not new 'evidence'.

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quote/ Forensic Science Institute. There has been some confusion as to whether the sharpshooter was positioned at the Dusit Thani Hotel or Chulalongkorn Hospital/ unquote

Thailand has a Forensic Science Institute? But they can not determine from which building a bullet was fired? And they have been trying to figure that out for over one and a half year? Hmm, is the only requirement for working there that you wear a red shirt?

Strange, to me, that this woman has the same christian name as her father.

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is there such a thing as a complimentary slur? giggle.gif

Not sure how this play to anyone - Thaksin was a cop and a favourite with them as he did a lot for them paywise when he was in power. The police are, rightly or wrongly, suspected to be a "red" organisation. How does that go towards a political advantage for her party? Most Red Shirts were sold the line that the "men in black" were Cambodian mercenaries hired by PAD/Dems etc, why stir up that particuar well? Unles maybe, just maybe, it is a real titbit, a little of the truth sticking out from under the couch. Certainly would not be a shock that he was taken out by his own side, he was hardly towing the line in an orderly fashion.

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quote/ Forensic Science Institute. There has been some confusion as to whether the sharpshooter was positioned at the Dusit Thani Hotel or Chulalongkorn Hospital/ unquote

Thailand has a Forensic Science Institute? But they can not determine from which building a bullet was fired? And they have been trying to figure that out for over one and a half year? Hmm, is the only requirement for working there that you wear a red shirt?

Strange, to me, that this woman has the same christian name as her father.

Why would a Buddhist have a "Christian name"?

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is there such a thing as a complimentary slur? giggle.gif

Not sure how this play to anyone - Thaksin was a cop and a favourite with them as he did a lot for them paywise when he was in power. The police are, rightly or wrongly, suspected to be a "red" organisation. How does that go towards a political advantage for her party? Most Red Shirts were sold the line that the "men in black" were Cambodian mercenaries hired by PAD/Dems etc, why stir up that particuar well? Unles maybe, just maybe, it is a real titbit, a little of the truth sticking out from under the couch. Certainly would not be a shock that he was taken out by his own side, he was hardly towing the line in an orderly fashion.

many of the "back shirt" aka "men in black" aka "black angels" aka friends of the "red shirts"

were not just police, but retired and active army as well according to the journalists

that interviewed them during their criminal lawlessness of the riots

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is there such a thing as a complimentary slur? giggle.gif

Not sure how this play to anyone - Thaksin was a cop and a favourite with them as he did a lot for them paywise when he was in power. The police are, rightly or wrongly, suspected to be a "red" organisation. How does that go towards a political advantage for her party? Most Red Shirts were sold the line that the "men in black" were Cambodian mercenaries hired by PAD/Dems etc, why stir up that particuar well? Unles maybe, just maybe, it is a real titbit, a little of the truth sticking out from under the couch. Certainly would not be a shock that he was taken out by his own side, he was hardly towing the line in an orderly fashion.

many of the "back shirt" aka "men in black" aka "black angels" aka friends of the "red shirts"

were not just police, but retired and active army as well according to the journalists

that interviewed them during their criminal lawlessness of the riots

Would these journalists be BBC, by any chance? Or, perhaps, CNN?

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is there such a thing as a complimentary slur? giggle.gif

Not sure how this play to anyone - Thaksin was a cop and a favourite with them as he did a lot for them paywise when he was in power. The police are, rightly or wrongly, suspected to be a "red" organisation. How does that go towards a political advantage for her party? Most Red Shirts were sold the line that the "men in black" were Cambodian mercenaries hired by PAD/Dems etc, why stir up that particuar well? Unles maybe, just maybe, it is a real titbit, a little of the truth sticking out from under the couch. Certainly would not be a shock that he was taken out by his own side, he was hardly towing the line in an orderly fashion.

many of the "back shirt" aka "men in black" aka "black angels" aka friends of the "red shirts"

were not just police, but retired and active army as well according to the journalists

that interviewed them during their criminal lawlessness of the riots

Would these journalists be BBC, by any chance? Or, perhaps, CNN?

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If some one is shot while carrying on a terrorist act, and by a policeman

May be he should be awarded a medal for dong his duty

Please provide info as to the terrorist act he commited, I am not aware of any terrorism he participated in.

You're quiet correct, sir. In September 2011 there was a proposal from the Truth for Reconciliation Commission of Thailand to reduce the indictments for red-shirt leaders from terrorism to lesser charges, such as criminal association and "ang yee" ( underground criminal organisation). This would have applied to the renegade general as well. Status of proposal unknown to me.

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It's a wonder no-one has thought of buying the sniper a ticket to Dubai? Just a thought! giggle.gif
because the sniper works for mr T
Highly doubtful as the red shirts take orders from, and obey Mr T.

you don't think mr T wouldn't sacrifice one of his own to advance his agenda?

these types of groups have used that tactic before and will again.

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Oh Dear. She thinks killing her father was a crime.

There are 2 POV, first that it was done by the RTA. Outside the ROE perhaps, but considering that the RTA commander was targetted and killed, quite understandable.

Second view is that Thaksin wanted to shut a runaway mouth giving away much too much information about the supposedly non-existant military wing of the "protest". Only one more murder amongst many.

IMHO having an ego twice the size of your super-ego leads to narcissistic over-exaggeration of ability, self-importance and worth, and can often be fatal. Careful, Mr T.

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Oh Dear. She thinks killing her father was a crime.

There are 2 POV, first that it was done by the RTA. Outside the ROE perhaps, but considering that the RTA commander was targetted and killed, quite understandable.

Second view is that Thaksin wanted to shut a runaway mouth giving away much too much information about the supposedly non-existant military wing of the "protest". Only one more murder amongst many.

IMHO having an ego twice the size of your super-ego leads to narcissistic over-exaggeration of ability, self-importance and worth, and can often be fatal. Careful, Mr T.

A perfect example of flawed logic......if a person could exert the control and influence you suggest then this would be a non starter.......

Which may suggest, that this thread they are now tugging at, may well lead in the opposite direction to your preferred solution....

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