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I have a patchy history with multipliers and casting. Bird's nests like you wouldn't believe. Totally ruins a day out. I know they are good, all my friends use them, just dont want to sacrifice precious, rare fishing time unpicking line on the bank!

We all start off like that dude. Get lots of practice, mag your reels if you need to or use the strongest brakes to start with (if they are included). You know it is impossible to bird nest if you thumb the spool the whole cast but very very lightly of course. At the start I nearly chucked them in many many times. The knowledge on how to use them properly just wasnt easily at hand. In Phuket nobody practiced in using these reels was an English speaker. So glad I stuck with them now though but I've been through the hundreds of yards of line in the learning experience. biggrin.png

Same here it took me 3 whole days in BSR to get the hang of it. It did ruin my days but i was not about to give up. I still get them now and again. But they are easy to solve.

However if i try to cast my jigging master its a lot harder or if i try it with my AVET and mono its harder too. My 2 accurate's are the best i have ever had. I am still real happy i started with them.

Casting with spinning is easier but playing and controlling fish with mutipliers is much better. The drags are stronger and smoother.

Totally agree and no more line twist. clap2.gif

The JM's have awesome freespool. I've thrown mine a few time. If I take my tumb off the side of the spool post cast I start to see the line lifting. These reels are fast! Awesome bearings.

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Danny Moeskops of Belgium who can cast a lead over 300 yards with a long beach caster rod.
He's using a Daiwa Millionaire 7HT Mag here. A bit too small for Thai fishing but fun to watch. Edited by jackinbkk

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I have a patchy history with multipliers and casting. Bird's nests like you wouldn't believe. Totally ruins a day out. I know they are good, all my friends use them, just dont want to sacrifice precious, rare fishing time unpicking line on the bank!

We all start off like that dude. Get lots of practice, mag your reels if you need to or use the strongest brakes to start with (if they are included). You know it is impossible to bird nest if you thumb the spool the whole cast but very very lightly of course. At the start I nearly chucked them in many many times. The knowledge on how to use them properly just wasnt easily at hand. In Phuket nobody practiced in using these reels was an English speaker. So glad I stuck with them now though but I've been through the hundreds of yards of line in the learning experience. biggrin.png

Same here it took me 3 whole days in BSR to get the hang of it. It did ruin my days but i was not about to give up. I still get them now and again. But they are easy to solve.

However if i try to cast my jigging master its a lot harder or if i try it with my AVET and mono its harder too. My 2 accurate's are the best i have ever had. I am still real happy i started with them.

Casting with spinning is easier but playing and controlling fish with mutipliers is much better. The drags are stronger and smoother.

Totally agree and no more line twist. clap2.gif

The JM's have awesome freespool. I've thrown mine a few time. If I take my tumb off the side of the spool post cast I start to see the line lifting. These reels are fast! Awesome bearings.

IF we ever meet i let you try my JM. I think its crap.. it looks great.. handles the fish great but casting.. nope.

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IF we ever meet i let you try my JM. I think its crap.. it looks great.. handles the fish great but casting.. nope.

Has your Accurate got cast control? Any idea if that's magnetic, centrifugal or just a friction brake if it has?

I think my Maxel is just like your JM. No brakes. I have to thumb it. It flies! JM's are nice but yes the difficult end of the casting spectrum.

>>>Cast<<<

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Hi, both my accurates have cast control. I try to ease that off as much as i can of course. I am getting my avet magged (bought the avvet with the idea to have a long distance caster at a low price for sawai and small bug at shadow.

I never got far casting my JM but a friend of mine did he actually can cast it better as me. It might be that i am just lazy to learn. But i use the JM a lot with my bait boat. The accurate i use a lot casting at BSR. The AVET is a total disaster at the moment im waiting for a friend to mag it.

But all these have better drag control then the shimano 6500. I still love my shimano and for casting out the massage bread far its a pefect tool

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I,m the friend rob speaks of, I picked up robs JM pe5 and managed to cast it without problems and i think with practise could get a lot further but before this i had used a borrowed JM pe4 for an hour without problems,

The accurates have a friction cast control which i would,nt normaly agree with because friction will be the same through the cast curve and sucking power out the cast rather than controling it...somehow accurate made it work but i never took mine apart to investigate how,

I fear magging either accurate or JM reels is a no go as they both have dual drag...ie the spool has drag plates both sides of the spool much like a disc brake and caliper on a car and that would cancel out the eddy fields created by the alu spool spinning in close quarters with the magnets,

i had lots of success magging various reels for myself and others, avet sx, shimano jigger, shimano trinidad, abu 7000 and a few penn 209s...some were real beasts until magged,

On a side note i have tried 2 of the latest shimano baitcatsers with digital cast control and would never have believed the claims of no thumb input needed intill i tried...even as the lure hit the water or the ground there was almost no over run with zero thumb + the dc makes a super cool sound as it kicks inlicklips.gif Even giving it full wang into a strong wind expecting a professional blow up nothing happened...the only hard part was keeping my thumb away from the spool,

Maybe thats the future of all casting reels.

Edited by tingtongfarang

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Tip! turn the reel on its side handle up while its in flight, I thought the thais did it too look cool only then realised it works...just dont ask me how,

i failed to cast the JM with real abandon fearing the rath of rob if i goof up and blow a whole spool of braidhit-the-fan.gif

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I,m the friend rob speaks of, I picked up robs JM pe5 and managed to cast it without problems and i think with practise could get a lot further but before this i had used a borrowed JM pe4 for an hour without problems,

The accurates have a friction cast control which i would,nt normaly agree with because friction will be the same through the cast curve and sucking power out the cast rather than controling it...somehow accurate made it work but i never took mine apart to investigate how,

I fear magging either accurate or JM reels is a no go as they both have dual drag...ie the spool has drag plates both sides of the spool much like a disc brake and caliper on a car and that would cancel out the eddy fields created by the alu spool spinning in close quarters with the magnets,

i had lots of success magging various reels for myself and others, avet sx, shimano jigger, shimano trinidad, abu 7000 and a few penn 209s...some were real beasts until magged,

On a side note i have tried 2 of the latest shimano baitcatsers with digital cast control and would never have believed the claims of no thumb input needed intill i tried...even as the lure hit the water or the ground there was almost no over run with zero thumb + the dc makes a super cool sound as it kicks inlicklips.gif Even giving it full wang into a strong wind expecting a professional blow up nothing happened...the only hard part was keeping my thumb away from the spool,

Maybe thats the future of all casting reels.

Casting the reel on it's side often causes a bit of rubbing. The bearings touching the side of the spool or the lip of the spool touching the side of the frame. You can usually hear it a bit. So it acts to slow the reel like a brake.

I can cast all of my reels unmagged but decided to mag my Avet as well. It's far easier. If a reel isnt magged you can't ever really take your thumb off it. The line starts to lift right away. You hear it starting to tangle.

I have a friend from South Africa. His Trinidad has the digital cast control. I believe it's working like inductance with an electromagnet and incredibly fast thanks to a chip. Seems a smarter idea.

Thailand seems to be the only country where traditionally 'jigging' class reels like the Accurates, JMs, Ocea jiggers etc ever get used for casting. thanks to the massive freshwater fish. I had so much fun (Not!) when I bought a big boat reel with no brakes at all.

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What kinds of rods are you guys using with your multipliers by the way?

Acuurate bx500 on Fc monsters ozone, Shimano jigger 4000 2speed on loomis GT1 both spooled with 80lb power pro, Avet sx on G craft super short rodders spooled with 40lb mono.

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What kinds of rods are you guys using with your multipliers by the way?

Acuurate bx500 on Fc monsters ozone, Shimano jigger 4000 2speed on loomis GT1 both spooled with 80lb power pro, Avet sx on G craft super short rodders spooled with 40lb mono.

I have FC monster ozone's too. Got them in the hope of one day jigging for blue fin tuna. I was on braid too but it tends to drift a lot in the wind so switching to 70lb mono. May run 100 or 200 yards mono with braid underneath? Got 80lb and 100lb Berkley whiplash.

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