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Hi

I want to come fishing in thialand in november i want to fish the lakes/ponds + need somewhere to stay...was thinking about Palm tree lagoon ...does anyone have some good places that they would recomend or fishing guides that i could go with....

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Id advise against palm tree lagon. Its expensive and just a small pond. For the same money you better go to ao nang and fish at gillhams. Much nicer surroundings bigger fish and a much bigger lake for the same or even less.

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I also advise you to go to Bungsamran, no need to hire a guide somewhere else there are plenty available there.

Depending how you are on money you could do shadow lake or cha am. However these ponds are hard and cant compare to the expensive ponds. Guides are available at Shadow Lake. prices are just a fraction of places like gillham and bungsamran. But if you only want action and big fish dont go there.

There are some other places like lake IT monster and such. They are even more expensive but some people like to fish them. For a holiday its an ok thing to do. I would really include gillhams to your list only problem is that its in the South of Thailand. So its far away. But its by far the best bang for your buck if you are taking about expensive lakes. Probably the best setting and for sure the best fish care.

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Thanks robblok for the info palm tree lagoon have just got back to me with a price Of 37200 thb per person for 8 nights 7 days fishing with hotel and all bait that sounds cheaper than most of the others ... Is the fishing good there

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Just remember that anywhere outside of the pay for play fishing parks the Thais kill everything with any method they can... nets, set lines and electronic devices that kill or stun every fish in the vicinity. Thais eat anything and everything that is edible in any size shape or form. If it slithers, slides, hops, walks, runs, jumps, swims, flies or even lies there inert it will get eaten. Conservation is only something practised inside of parks. And even then there is poaching.

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DaveJBee,

Im sure robblok will be the first to say "Im bound to say this" LOL, but in the end theres a reason tourist use the services of fishing tours, and its not a singular list. If your planning to get results, one venue is not the best way to go, a well planned tour is the best way to go.

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DaveJBee,

Im sure robblok will be the first to say "Im bound to say this" LOL, but in the end theres a reason tourist use the services of fishing tours, and its not a singular list. If your planning to get results, one venue is not the best way to go, a well planned tour is the best way to go.

Yes you are bound to say this. But IMHO you dont need a guide if can hire them at the lakes. Why fork out for an other then. I mean great guides at BSR. Not to mention that guides are included in Gillhams. Im sure even palm tree would help a long stay visitor.

I still say go to Gillhams.. pay a bit more and have the time of your life.

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My opinion would be stay at a hotel in bangkok, get taxis to Bung samran and hire the rod and guide at the venue. I think you'll save a lot. Plus it is the best fishing for tourists in Bangkok. The biggest fish with the best services for English speakers.

Honestly what would 8 days cost?

8x1000 for fishing

8x1000 for guide

8x 500 for bait

8x 500 for rod hire

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= 24,000 thb

You can get a hotel from about 1000 baht a night and taxis there and back about 300 baht a day?

8x1000 + 8 x 300 = 10,400

Total = 34,400 THB

Maybe if you tell a guide at the park that you'll hire him for a week he'll do you a discount?

Gnao nam would be a bit difficult as not many people understand English there.

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My opinion would be stay at a hotel in bangkok, get taxis to Bung samran and hire the rod and guide at the venue. I think you'll save a lot. Plus it is the best fishing for tourists in Bangkok. The biggest fish with the best services for English speakers.

Honestly what would 8 days cost?

8x1000 for fishing

8x1000 for guide

8x 500 for bait

8x 500 for rod hire

----------------------------

= 24,000 thb

You can get a hotel from about 1000 baht a night and taxis there and back about 300 baht a day?

8x1000 + 8 x 300 = 10,400

Total = 34,400 THB

Maybe if you tell a guide at the park that you'll hire him for a week he'll do you a discount?

Gnao nam would be a bit difficult as not many people understand English there.

Again....just one venue...two species of fish. A long way to come not to get a broader experience.

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Hi Rufanuf

Could you give me some ideas then

Thanks

Just dont sticck to one venue Dave. That way you'll get a chance to experience the Thai fishng scene as all the xpats on here experience it, and as you can see they all have their different opinions, and thats really my point. Each venue offers something different, thats what you pay tour companies for. You have had prices of 37,200BHT. You had suggestions for how to fish Bungsamran for 24000BHT....what knowones told you to do is the right thing, which is dont assume your ideas of a good trip will be the same as someone elses, and dont dont assume that doing everything yourself as a tourist will get you the best results, or even necessarily save you money, if its that important to you. (which for many anglers its not).

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if your looking to save about 10,000BHT Perhaps one of the expats on here would take you on a weeks fishing tour? For free? Or maybe they wll say "just pay my hotels and food and drink"? Cost? About 10,000BHT !

I once asked Robblok if he would consider taking our clients to Gnao Nam....as he is very knowledgeable about the venue. But by his own admission when he considered what it actually entails to help someone organise their fishing trip, he realised the money in it was not worthwhile, and even admitted to me that he could see the value in the service offered to visitors.

I really don't know why expats have such contempt for or try to belittle a service they simply dont require becuase they live here and have been to all the venues before....but they do, and it ends up with plenty of tourist anglers coming on to Thai Visa and being swayed to see things thru the eyes of an expat, which...they are not. The result? Not as good as it could of been simply for spending 15% to 25% more on a trip (if that), and having it professionally put together for them.

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if your looking to save about 10,000BHT Perhaps one of the expats on here would take you on a weeks fishing tour? For free? Or maybe they wll say "just pay my hotels and food and drink"? Cost? About 10,000BHT !

I once asked Robblok if he would consider taking our clients to Gnao Nam....as he is very knowledgeable about the venue. But by his own admission when he considered what it actually entails to help someone organise their fishing trip, he realised the money in it was not worthwhile, and even admitted to me that he could see the value in the service offered to visitors.

I really don't know why expats have such contempt for or try to belittle a service they simply dont require becuase they live here and have been to all the venues before....but they do, and it ends up with plenty of tourist anglers coming on to Thai Visa and being swayed to see things thru the eyes of an expat, which...they are not. The result? Not as good as it could of been simply for spending 15% to 25% more on a trip (if that), and having it professionally put together for them.

I still think its not worth my time to be a fishing guide. I have friends who think otherwise. I am just in a different position. I don't mind take a friend or someone i know fishing. All fun with me but no way would i want to be forced to do so and not being able to fish myself.

I just think that many venues offer fishing guides, a place like Bungsamran has guides, Gillhams has guides, even palm tree has people who will help. The problem is then a communications one because most guides don't speak that much English. I always use the guide We when my (lazy) father is here. The old man is already planning his next trip to Gillhams telling me its the best he ever seen. I dont mind paying the price there because i think its good quality. Still its too expensive for my twice weekly fishing trips. (not to mention a bit far from BKK).

A guide comes in handy as he will arrange transport and presumably good rods. It takes care of the hassle and will give you a more care free experience. Its more expensive and that is for anyone to decide if that is worth it. I personally would not fish one of those expensive venues for the first time without having someone who is knowledgeable. So if there are no guides on site id really use a tour company.

I think part of the belittling comes from the crazy prices that are sometimes asked by fishing tour operators to go to BSR.

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@ruffenuf

It it was just a 1000 extra for the guide it would not be so bad. But i doubt its just a 1000 that is added per day to the trip. Id say its more 2000-3000 and then it might be worth wile for the company but that is more then a 25%.

If you take BSR and the offer a price of 6000 its a bit high (1000 thai guide 800 bungalow 400 lam 1000 entrance 200 getting there by taxi) 3400 That is not a 25% percent increase its more like a 76% percent increase) 4250 would make it a 25% increase.

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if your looking to save about 10,000BHT Perhaps one of the expats on here would take you on a weeks fishing tour? For free? Or maybe they wll say "just pay my hotels and food and drink"? Cost? About 10,000BHT !

I once asked Robblok if he would consider taking our clients to Gnao Nam....as he is very knowledgeable about the venue. But by his own admission when he considered what it actually entails to help someone organise their fishing trip, he realised the money in it was not worthwhile, and even admitted to me that he could see the value in the service offered to visitors.

I really don't know why expats have such contempt for or try to belittle a service they simply dont require becuase they live here and have been to all the venues before....but they do, and it ends up with plenty of tourist anglers coming on to Thai Visa and being swayed to see things thru the eyes of an expat, which...they are not. The result? Not as good as it could of been simply for spending 15% to 25% more on a trip (if that), and having it professionally put together for them.

I still think its not worth my time to be a fishing guide. I have friends who think otherwise. I am just in a different position. I don't mind take a friend or someone i know fishing. All fun with me but no way would i want to be forced to do so and not being able to fish myself.

I just think that many venues offer fishing guides, a place like Bungsamran has guides, Gillhams has guides, even palm tree has people who will help. The problem is then a communications one because most guides don't speak that much English. I always use the guide We when my (lazy) father is here. The old man is already planning his next trip to Gillhams telling me its the best he ever seen. I dont mind paying the price there because i think its good quality. Still its too expensive for my twice weekly fishing trips. (not to mention a bit far from BKK).

A guide comes in handy as he will arrange transport and presumably good rods. It takes care of the hassle and will give you a more care free experience. Its more expensive and that is for anyone to decide if that is worth it. I personally would not fish one of those expensive venues for the first time without having someone who is knowledgeable. So if there are no guides on site id really use a tour company.

I think part of the belittling comes from the crazy prices that are sometimes asked by fishing tour operators to go to BSR.

Good post, Robblok. I did some guiding years ago in Canada and it turned me off the profession. You have to cater to <deleted> as well as the good folks and you don't have much choice in who you get. You also have to use questionable ethics just to make a profit.

The problem in Thailand is the language if you are a foreigner. You don't know where to go or how to access the best water. You are at the mercy of the guides... of which some are of questionable character. There is a well known Frenchman that falls into that category. Very often you need a boat to access the better places on large reservoirs. And, even the fishing parks need a little prior knowledge. Fortunately, if you know fishing at all then you can quickly figure it out. You can put me on any body of water and I'll catch fish anywhere in the world but you don't learn that over night.

I think there is lots of good advice on this forum and it shouldn't be too difficult to figure things out if you've been fishing at all.

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