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And the reason being ??? Thai Lungs can tolerate more pollution ...???

PM10 - 50ug/m^3 in 24 hour period for 35 times in a year.

This mean we are over the limit every year, no ?

European standards are not the same as Thailand standards as was pointed out in the initial post on this aspect.

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Air unsafe in five northern provinces

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BANGKOK: -- Five northern provinces are currently experiencing unsafe levels of minute dust particles in the atmosphere, according to the Pollution Control Department (PCD).

The particles referred to by the department are PM10 (particulate matter 10 micrometres) or smaller.

Lampang had the highest reading, at 235.3 micrograms per cubic metre of air. Safe levels of PM10 particles are considered to be 120 micrograms per cubic metre or less.

The four other provinces with seriously high levels of particles were Phrae (218.08 micrograms), Lamphun (192.1 micrograms), Phayao (123.5 micrograms) and Chiang Rai (123.5 micrograms).

"The excessive level of these small dust particles can affect the health of locals," Chukiat Pongsiriwan said yesterday in his capacity as head of Phrae's Natural Resources and Environment Office.

The PCD measured levels of small dust particles in the North yesterday as part of its airquality monitoring operations. To tackle the problem, the PCD called on authorities to prevent people from burning garbage, agricultural scraps and dry leaves.

Public Health Ministry permanent secretary Dr Paijit Warachit said smoke from the fires could hurt locals' health. "It affects the heart, blood vessels, respiratory systems, skin and eyes," he said.

People in smokefilled areas should wear masks to cover their mouth and nose, Paijit said. "If you experience eye irritation or tightness in the chest, please seek medical help."

Lamphun Governor Surachai Khanarsa said he had declared 287 villages as forestfire control zones to prevent the fires from worsening air quality.

Meanwhile, Chiang Mai public health chief Dr Wattana Kanjanakamon said large amounts of smoke in the air in his province had caused the number of patients to increase by 10 per cent this month.

"We have seen a higher incidence of respiratory problems," he said.

Although the amount of small dust particles was within safe limits in Chiang Mai, the threat was increasing, according to governor ML Panadda Disakul.

"We have prepared necessary measures. If the dust particles reach a critical level, we will ask the Agriculture Ministry to make artificial rain," Panadda said.

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-- The Nation 2012-02-18

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Haze in North exceeds safety standards

CHIANG MAI, Feb 18 – Haze pollution covering parts of Thailand's northern provinces is worrisome, with the particulate dust particle level rising over the safety standard with airports needing to turn on runways light to increase visibility for aircraft taking off and landing.

Supeera Laddachayaporn, head of the local environmental quality surveillance unit in Lampang, said that smog in the province is the more concern than other provinces in the region. Thick haze has blanketed the province for three days, contributing to the level of dust particles rising over the safety standard.

This year, the problem occurred sooner than in any other year, as it normally emerges around March. Outdoor burning in farming areas and roadside grassland has aggravated the haze pollution.

The Pollution Control Department’s air quality monitoring station reported tiny dust particles at 235.33 micrograms per cubic metre at the station near Lampang’s city pillar shrine and 211.30 micrograms per cubic metre at a public health centre in Mae Mo district.

In Phrae, the level is as high as 218.08, second to Lampang.

At Lampang Airport visibility was reduced to 1,000 metres. A 70-seat Bangkok Airways aircraft spent 40 minutes to land and the aviation control tower was forced to turn on the runway lights to increase visibility for pilots.

Chiang Mai International Airport applied the same measure due to poor visibility.

Chiang Mai Governor Panadda Diskul said that the problem of thick haze and forest fire has worsened. At noon on Thursday, the level of small dust particles was higher than the safety standard at 120 microns to 185.27 micrograms per cubic metre.

Although it dropped slightly on Friday to 162 micrograms per cubic metre, it is still above the standard limit and tended to rise further. The Air Quality Index (AQI) is over the safety standard for several days, posing a health threat to local residents, children, the elderly and hospitalised patients in particular, who were advised to avoid outdoor activities.

Low air quality was not only caused by forest burning but also by congested traffic and the dropping ozone level. The haze pollution also occurred in nearby provinces of Lampang, Phayao and Phrae. (MCOT online news)

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-- TNA 2012-02-18

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The air certainly got bad fast this year. I got up early yesterday morning in Mae Taeng and went for mountain bike ride on a beautiful trail on a ridge. There were several kilometers of burned forest where likely a lone person walked along setting fires as he went. Some of these folks live so far out that they don't have televisions or radios so they are unaware of any problem and I am sure this is the same in across the borders in the whole region. Let's hope for winds or rain.

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Are you kidding ... I am living here for 5 years now and the burning keeps starting earlier and earlier every year ... Hell, it started in October 2011 here in Cm as soon as the flooding was over and there was no more rain .... not as bad as it is now but started then in any case.... previous years started only in Feb / March then became Nov , then became Nov/ Dec and now this year started in Oct and has now escalated till now and in a furious unseen way ... have not seen in 5 years the likes of it for the past 2 weeks ... it is in fact scary....!! I have guests here right now from Canada and they are just hacking away and find it so difficult to breathe to the point where I had to go out and buy Inhalers for them .... It is really bad !!!

First burn season in Chaing Mai and today is the first time I've seen it like this. Is THIS what it's like through the whole burn season, or is today worse than normal?

Also, where are you guys getting the satellite burn images?

Why didn't you tell your guests to come some other time? Everyone who lives here knows that the end of February and all of March are the worst times.

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Had there been any doubt that Thailand itself is a significant part of the problem (a supposition being that Myanmar and Lao were mostly to blame), the satellite plus overlay (thanks!) certainly dispels it.

Only carrots will work. Villages must have mechanized equipment to replace fires' job, and farmers some benefit from using that gear. Schools to teach agribusiness and longevity. What has Viet-Nam done, I wonder??

Post #78 talks of the four northern provinces being the worst effected areas yet the fire map at http://firefly.geog.umd.edu/firemap/ shows a fairly even distribution of dots across all of Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar, parts of Issan have a fairly heavy concentration of dots. It's fair to assum that CM suffers more than most because of the basin effect and perhaps because of the coal generation plant at Lampagn, but that same argument doesn't hold much water when considering the other northern provinces. Certainly, northern Thailand is partially responsible for the current high levels of pollution, but it's looking increasingly as though a larger percentage is imported. otherwise the entire country would be in the same predicament as CM is currently and that's not the case.

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There is a basic underlying problem though, in that no one thinks its in their control to stop it. At the very least they should be having some kind of incentive on the village level for a smoke free zone.

Why should they do that? It's their country and a foreigner's opinion on what the Thais should or shouldn't do means nothing. The foreigner's job is to bring money into the country. The only influence we have is voting - with our feet. I doubt anyone on this forum will move away from Chiang Mai. The smart people will leave for the burning season peak and then return sometime after Songkran.

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This is a picture of particulate (dust) build up after only a couple of days. I'd keep windows closed and fans blowing outwards.

Had weird chest pains lastnight, woke up this morning and realized why...We're breathing in this stuff....From Huay Kaew road

The air is worse than the Vog (volcanic fog) that we have in Hawaii.

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What authorities?

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What action would you suggest?

Stop the burning.

Not that easy to change habits that have developed over hundreds of years. But also not impossible. It's people who are doing this - people are setting the forests and fields on fire. Those people can be stopped.

Driving in to the soi from Rt. 107 yesterday afternoon, there were these 4 or 5 military guys "cleaning" a small farming area. I stopped my car in gob-smacking awe, rolled down the window, stared for a minute, and ended up screaming at the top of my aching lungs for the __ckers to stop burning (2-3 mtr. flames!!!!). They just stared back at this extremely odd farang completely clueless!

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It appears that the Vietnamese are more advanced than Thailand and neighbors, at least from the point of view of no fires. (But also that the Chinese government not so.)

Perhaps northern Vietnam will become the next favourite for expats?

What the Vietnamese have is a penal system. In Thailand the only crimes that are pursued by the police are ones that concern drugs, weapons, and murder. Other than that, there are no crimes. So, when it comes to fires, and causing life threatening pollution, there are no authorities that are concerned, and if there were, there would not be anything they could, or would do about it. In Vietnam they pass a law, and if you violate it, you spend time in prison. Same with Malaysia, China, Indonesia, India, etc. In Thailand you do as you please. And if you do get arrested, you come up with some cash, and then go home, and continue breaking the law. The system here is broken. But, nobody will admit it.

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The pollution in Chiang Mai is far, far worse than in Los Angeles, or Bangkok. Every time I am up there I marvel at how bad it is. Nothing seem to be done about it. Does anyone in power care? It is a great city, and a very nice area, and a terrible shame nobody is able of willing to do anything. All that would be required would be to pass a law preventing burning of crops, enforcing it, and jailing a few farmers. Word would get out quickly, and they would find another more ecologically sound way to clearing the crops, like most civilized countries do.

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Never mind Changmai , I have been suffering for 4 weeks in Bangkok with a Chronic cough and sneezing. The air in bangkok has a reddish haze. I noticed that the PCD Air Quality reports have stopped being published since the Air Quality got bad and I started coughing (typical cover up job I think). As a retired Pollution Control Engineer I have looked at the data on the PCD web site and I must say that I cannot believe the figures apart from those given by them for Din Daeng which seem more truthful.

I was thinking of moving from Bangkok perhaps to Changmai because I expected to Air Quality to be better, and it seems now that it is worse and even Hua Hin is affected. Is there anywhere where the air pollution is at a safe level in Thailand?

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