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This happens every year just before the beginning of the rainy season because the people living in the mountains start burning the forrest because it stimulates wild mushrooms and other edibles It should be illegal, and may well be, but you cannot stop an old bad habbit. Its best to not exercise in such conditions and stay indoors where there is some filtration by air conditioning.

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Never mind Changmai , I have been suffering for 4 weeks in Bangkok with a Chronic cough and sneezing. The air in bangkok has a reddish haze. I noticed that the PCD Air Quality reports have stopped being published since the Air Quality got bad and I started coughing (typical cover up job I think). As a retired Pollution Control Engineer I have looked at the data on the PCD web site and I must say that I cannot believe the figures apart from those given by them for Din Daeng which seem more truthful.

I was thinking of moving from Bangkok perhaps to Changmai because I expected to Air Quality to be better, and it seems now that it is worse and even Hua Hin is affected. Is there anywhere where the air pollution is at a safe level in Thailand?

Really? I live in Wangthonglang and have been riding around Bangkok on in recent days and have been enjoying the low humidity and pleasantly clean air. Of course there are certain parts of Bangkok that are always bad due to traffic pollution, but I haven't seen much in the way of fires this year as things have remained green later the usual thanks to all the rain we've had in and around Bangkok in recent weeks.

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First time in CM, been here 2 weeks but today it hit me hard! I don't know if i'm a pollution-wuss but I can barely stay outside 2 minutes without my chest feeling tight and my head aching..

No, you're not a pollution-wuss, you just haven't bought a condo yet and so haven't developed the cognitive dissonance needed to live in CM longer term. rolleyes.gif

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This happens every year just before the beginning of the rainy season because the people living in the mountains start burning the forrest because it stimulates wild mushrooms and other edibles It should be illegal, and may well be, but you cannot stop an old bad habbit. Its best to not exercise in such conditions and stay indoors where there is some filtration by air conditioning.

Spot on! Five years ago when I went over the mountains between Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai in a bus I was alarmed at those forest fires, but I noticed that no one else showed signs of alarm. It seems that some local farmers set the dry forest on fire so that the het pho mushroom grows better. It is greed that is at the origin of those fires. There sees to be little regard for other life in the forest, small animals, amphibians that die in great numbers, but no one cares.

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Makes me glad I am off to Bali next week for three weeks. I don't see anything there. I hope the rainy season starts before I get back.

David

Let us know what you think of Bali. I have been many times, but not for a few years now. What are you paying for your airfare?

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Never mind Changmai , I have been suffering for 4 weeks in Bangkok with a Chronic cough and sneezing. The air in bangkok has a reddish haze. I noticed that the PCD Air Quality reports have stopped being published since the Air Quality got bad and I started coughing (typical cover up job I think). As a retired Pollution Control Engineer I have looked at the data on the PCD web site and I must say that I cannot believe the figures apart from those given by them for Din Daeng which seem more truthful.

I was thinking of moving from Bangkok perhaps to Changmai because I expected to Air Quality to be better, and it seems now that it is worse and even Hua Hin is affected. Is there anywhere where the air pollution is at a safe level in Thailand?

Phuket seems pretty nice. i wish we had more rain but can't complain about the air quality, very fresh here

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Bring on global warming and the next ice age, we need to kill off about 5 billion people. The human race is a menace to everything, including itself. And only a very tiny fraction of the earths population cares a shit about pollution. So issue all the warnings you want I am happy to see the life span of most humans shortened.

Sorry if that offends any of you. Well not really.

I agree. If 99.9% of the world's population were to be snuffed out it would give the planet a chance to replenish itself. Thank the gods I won't be around to see what's in store for future generations.

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Warnings not to burn forests, fields and any rubbish the people want to get rid of is useless. Throw some of the worst offenders for a year into prison, so that they have time to think about the damage they do to their fellow human beings and to the economy of their country. Large scale pollution is more worrying for tourists than a few bombs in Bangkok.

What after all is the difference between this and sellng drugs to people wihth which they ruin their health.

All the Farang do-gooders will now tell me about burning being part of Thai culture. Culture is a value-free expression and that sort of culture is of extremely low value

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If you live outside Pattaya,you probably smell chickenshit each time the wind blows to your house (if not ,your with the few lucky ones)

In the evening they start up the charcoalburners,they burn everything with wood on ,verry slowly ,so it makes a lot of smoke and stink,the whole night you have to keep the windows closed if the wind comes from the wrong direction.They dont do it in the daytime ,because it's then too obvious how much they pollute.

For the rest ,the thais love to burn : gras ,bamboo,plastic,cement bags,......esspecialy wet things ,so it smokes and stinks allot !

I suspect their nose can't smell smoke or chickenshit?

They dont complain about it annyway,or dont dare to ?

If i drive my mountainbike ,i have to pass all the stinking bins on the street,the smell of occasional rotten dogs corps on the side of the road,burning garbadge..........

So am i the only one who smells all of this ?

Something wrong with me ?hit-the-fan.gif

The most usefull knob in my car is.......the air controll !!! I leave it on recirculation ,never on "fresh air" from outside !

Dont comment on this ,unless you promise to put the aircontroll on "outside air " or drive with your window down,for

at least 1 week .wacko.png

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Ok bright star, and just how do you propose to do that, how do you change a very cost effective habit of centuries for rural farmers? Also, what makes you think the pollution is caused by burning within Thailand, maybe the majority of it is carried in on air currents from China and the like!

You must admit that the burning in Thailand is, at the very least, contributing to the polution. Your comment is not very reasonable or sensable.

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It appears that the Vietnamese are more advanced than Thailand and neighbors, at least from the point of view of no fires. (But also that the Chinese government not so.)

Perhaps northern Vietnam will become the next favourite for expats?

More advanced or stricter control I wonder. Also interesting to note from the map that Northern Australia uses the same ground clearing techniques, I find that particularly odd.

Burning the wild grass in northern Oz is an annual thing. It creates new growth and also reduces the summer fire hazards. A wild fire is uncontrollable.

The smoke probably upsets the camels and the kangaroos, but it's been going on for thousands of years. Not a real lot of people per 1000 square km there.

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Ok bright star, and just how do you propose to do that, how do you change a very cost effective habit of centuries for rural farmers? Also, what makes you think the pollution is caused by burning within Thailand, maybe the majority of it is carried in on air currents from China and the like!

You must admit that the burning in Thailand is, at the very least, contributing to the polution. Your comment is not very reasonable or sensable.

I did after all write "maybe", mostly I was trying to be evocotive rather than take for granted that the pollution was entirely home grown!

If you look at the firemap and select 48 hours or seven days, the current fires show in red whilst the older fires appear in orange, you'll of course need to zoom in to the area that includes northern Thailand and it's neighbours first. It you do that you'll see that currently some 90% of the fires in the region are in Myanmar whilst there's only very few active ones to the East of Chiang Mai. You'll also note that there is a far heavier concentartion of fire dots to the West and North than there is in northern Thailand, play around with the map and its settings and you'll doubtless arrive at the same conclusions, that's what I mean when I refer to imported pollution although I do qualify and also state that Northern Thailand is not totally blameless.

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