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300,000 Baht Backhander To Secure A Job Teaching

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Maybe the Big Boss knew she was married to a farang so could ask for 300k.

If this was a privat school with salaries up to 30-40k it would make more sense but paying 300k for 15k income is just robbery.

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This is very strange. Especially when there's a teacher shortage, upcountry. It's akin to hearing those bizzare amounts paid for sin sod, by foreigners, which are never returned to the bride and groom after the wedding ceremony.

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its normal for teacher to pay big money to big boss for a job ,my wife is a teacher wanted school principals job, 5 hundred thousand noway i say she has got a principals job in mae hong son more than 1000 kilometers from home, no money for the big boss shes happy no corruption ,only problem can only go home twice a yesr

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I can't say for teachers, but a lot of the lower echelon people you see working in government offices are not technically civil servants or government workers. They are hired as day or contract workers, some of them working for years under contract. They do not have the same benefits but probably all of them slog away in the hope that one day they will be formally taken on as a genuine government worker. Would these people pay to become official? Hell yes, because simply passing civil service exams is not enough.

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My wife just got the position of College Director - cost: 0 baht....but that's with a western PhD and 25 years of experience....so I think people can genuinely get positions (might need a bit of string pulling along the way), but not have to pay, if you have credentials that can't be ignored. However, others have had to pay in the past.

There's a story I know of someone who obtained a high position by pulling strings, only to have someone turn up on their doorstep one day asking for a baht of gold. She didn't even know them, but they were along the chain of command that helped her get the job. What a nasty surprise!

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My wife just got the position of College Director - cost: 0 baht....but that's with a western PhD and 25 years of experience....so I think people can genuinely get positions (might need a bit of string pulling along the way), but not have to pay, if you have credentials that can't be ignored. However, others have had to pay in the past.

There's a story I know of someone who obtained a high position by pulling strings, only to have someone turn up on their doorstep one day asking for a baht of gold. She didn't even know them, but they were along the chain of command that helped her get the job. What a nasty surprise!

So, from your personal experience, your wife is the exception then, yes?

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My fiance is a teacher on a contract. She needs to pay 500k baht to get off contract. Her parents want to pay that to lock her into their lives so that she does not move overseas with me. The parents have spent their entire life getting her to become a teacher so they can get the medical benifits and have someone looking after them in their village until they die. Long story short she is not going to accept her parents buying the position as she does not want to be a teacher and would like a normal life and family. When I worked at the school most of the female teachers were single and looking after their mother and that was their life not to much different to being a nun really.

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The parents have spent their entire life getting her to become a teacher so they can get the medical benifits and have someone looking after them in their village until they die.

So who's going to look after the parents after she leaves? Hmmm, most Thais would see this as a rather selfish gesture on her part.

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I think the price is higher because the boss knew she was mia farang.

I think she thinks it's worth it because it's a school where the teachers get backhanders.

The local school around the corner from me has every kid giving teacher 10 baht every day, 2000 per kid per month * 35+ kids per classroom. She probably needs to also kick some upstairs, but seems like a good investment to me.

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^ Does she teach New Math?tongue.png I think that would be about 200 per kid per month. x35 would be about 7,000 baht.

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To the poster whose fiance has to pay to get out of contract. That is probably because they (school or government grant) paid for her to study a course, exchange abroad, or some other thing and she would have to pay it back plus fine.

I have a friend that would need to pay 3 million baht if he quit working for the University. He got a grant to study his PhD and would be fined double if he doesn't work 25 years. Lucky for him he can transfer to any other government university though.

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I just wanted to write that I've lived in Thailand for five years now and never heard of Thais having to pay to get a job. Thailand never to ceases to amaze me, but what really amazes me is how little I know about the country I've been living in. Of all the friends I've made, of all the discussions and chats we've ever had, even just the times we've discussed education in Thailand and I've still never heard of backhanders for jobs. I know about tea money for kids to get into schools, directors skimming off the top, I've seen that 'Final Score' movie about a million Thai kids going after 200 uni places, I've heard of the pitiful salaries teachers are on with 40+ kids per class - and now this - it just adds insult to injury. Bless them.

Edited by aussiebebe

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No she has a university loan and is paying it back with the assistance of her parents right now. The school seems over staffed so I assume that is why the cost is so high. The teachers have it easy over there hard days are 4 hours of teaching and easy days are 2 hours of teaching. From what i worked out she completed university she worked in marketing then was getting married to a guy in bangkok but he cheated on her so she left him. At this point family bring her back to the village her uncle and aunt work at the school so i assume they secured her the job with the director. Now the uncle and aunt are preasuring the parents to pay for the position and don't want my fiance to move over here with me. Her parents want us to marry but are worried their sons can't look after them as well as their daughter when their old. They have agreed to her moving overseas with me but the aunt and uncle are constantly saying bad things about us and spreading rumors to try and get her mother to change her mind.

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Aussiebebe: I have lived here for a long time too and I don't know a single Thai person that has had to pay to get a job especially teachers. It isn't as "common" as others are making it seem. I imagine it would be less than 10%. It just isn't unheard of and it isn't a big deal if someone asks for it. Many parents will kick some tea money to get their kid fresh out of college that crucial first job. Having a good family name or connections will come before kick back money.

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Sounds worse than asking for a crazy "sin sod" and keeping it. Depends on your relationship but I would walk away. Family baggage is bad. Good luck though. It sounds like you will have reoccurring problems with her family.

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