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Pregnant Mother, Family Killed In Phuket Road Accident

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In London just after the war Cars were in very short supply and petrol was rationed. Many people including my father had a motorbike, the whole family would use it, but not the Thai way, we had a two seater sidecar. Incidentally, according to statistics, a sidecar combo had less accidents than a car, probably because father was concerned for his family's safety. I have never seen a sidecar in Thailand but plenty of sidecarts, strange.

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

So when is.. belive you can moderate what we say but not when we say it... something has to happen to Phuket's traffic system. and enforcement thereof

Condolences and RIP in all sincerity but let not the loss of these lives be totally in vain yet again.

It is sad, I do not mean to take that away from a terrible accident. But also, i sometimes do have enough of people saying "and no helmet". Surely they should thinking about prevention of accidents instead of thinking wearing a helmet would have helped. (Maybe even a "proper" one)

Bad driving, bad roads are the cause, not not wearing a helmet.

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

I am afraid it seems that driving proficiency, or the total lack of it, seems to be at fault here;

"Thalang Police initially suspect that the driver of the motorbike, presumed to have been Mr Suphat, may have been at fault for pulling out of a side soi too quickly"

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

If not now then when? When everything is fine and people can't see the what happens when you drive poorly or don't wear a helmet on a motor bike? I think this should be handled like the handled smoking in my home state in USA. There we got to see real dead peoples lungs and hearts. People who smoked and those who didn't. Here they should post photos of the accidents, Especially of kids, for kids in the equivalent of 5th grade. I noticed that's about when kids start driving those bikes here. Not much you can do to the adults who have made it this long in life and are determined to not change, but you can make a very good impression on kids when you start showing them human body parts and what a person looks like when their head pops open like a coconut. Especially when those you show are the same age as those viewing. And not to mention cops doing their jobs, not letting kids ride around, and making sure people have real licences, and have to take a test that is worth taking. The motor cycle licence exam here is the same as the car one, and a quick trip around a small course on a moped. And that's in Bangkok. Don't even want to know what they do elsewhere or I might flip out.

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

Really? When is the time to discuss it? After a few more hundred kids die

How about when the relatives of this family have had time to grieve. A bit of respect please ....

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

Really? When is the time to discuss it? After a few more hundred kids die

How about when the relatives of this family have had time to grieve. A bit of respect please ....

You reply as if the families will be reading this?

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Feel sorry for the deceased... But really, I would NEVER under ANY circumstance put my kids in the back of a motorcycle. Especially in this country. It's just common sense.

Unfortunately, Thais have a different set of common sense than us stupid, clueless westerners.

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And another one .... in a country where people can be 3 or 4 on a motorcycle without helmet or good quality helmet is usual . I feel sorry for the kid and pregnant woman , very sad story indeed. But I doubt legislation will ever change , mentality of people should evolute otherwise nothing will ever change and Thailand will still be seen as a country under development, nothing else.

The name Phuket has to be changed to: ROAD KILL Capital of Thailand.

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Clearly some of you posters who complain about Phuket traffic have never driven a vehicle in Bangkok.

I drove a car in Bangkok for 25 years around all parts of the city at all times of day and night.

Then I moved to Phuket and drove a motorcyle around Phuket at all times during day and night for 3 years -- without any problems.

Phuket is extremely safe for drivers who are sober and who practice defensive driving.

The flow of traffic is generally slow, and Phuket drivers are respectful of right-of-way (for Thailand)

So, unless you have more extensive experience, stop blaming the authorities and take a look in the mirror.

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I live in Thailand. I love Thailand and on the whole Thai people. I have decided to retire here as well in the coming few years. However, the moment I started driving here about a year ago, I have concluded that when it comes to road safety / etiquette / proficiency, this is really a land of buffaloes and idiots. In my opinion, Thai driving is firmly rooted at the bottom.

Sad to say, there are also a few farangs who are not much better. Over at the motoring forum, they are bragging about going at speeds in excess of 140 kmh. This is excessive for Thailand, no exceptions! I even drive below the 120 kmh speed limit on the Bangkok - Chonburi express way as no way is it safe with the amount of traffic and vastly differing skills of drivers on this road, not to mention the condition of the road itself.

Sadly though, I doubt if things will ever change in my generation or the next. No amount of deaths will raise the awareness of a race of people whose values are unlike any others in this world. Best we can do is drive safely and defensively ourselves, always expecting the unexpected and always assuming that the other road users are just not up to world (Western) standards.

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I passed this accident just after it happened last night, the family were not pulling out from a soi but returning from the temple fair that was happening just up the road, conditions were very wet and this is a very bad part of the road where it instantly turns from 2 lanes traffic to one and people are always racing to get in front as the two lanes become one. Sad sad loss of life, I didn't see the driver of the Nissan but most people were saying that he was a farang driver.

Some paople say that Thailand is quite safe for drivers if you're careful, one thing I know, in all my life I had never seen a dead body after an accident, here though, I see them nearly every week.

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Another tragic loss of 4 lives. This is not the moment to discuss helmets and driving proficiency. RIP

So when is.. belive you can moderate what we say but not when we say it... something has to happen to Phuket's traffic system. and enforcement thereof

Condolences and RIP in all sincerity but let not the loss of these lives be totally in vain yet again.

It is sad, I do not mean to take that away from a terrible accident. But also, i sometimes do have enough of people saying "and no helmet". Surely they should thinking about prevention of accidents instead of thinking wearing a helmet would have helped. (Maybe even a "proper" one)

Bad driving, bad roads are the cause, not not wearing a helmet.

I beg to differ - about 20 years ago a driver pulled out onto a highway (100km/h) limit in front of me with 15m distance to go and opposite flowing traffic in the next lane - I flew over his hood and did the slide and bounce for a good 50-60m - my Arai kevlar and carbon fibre composite helmet certainly stopped my brains getting splattered all over that road (judging by the gouges and grooves in it later. Also my jacket with kevlar reinforcing strips along spine and elbows prevented injury there - I got out of it with just a broken leg.

Safety equipment when riding a motorbike is not optional - it's life-saving.

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When will Thailand do anything about the propensity of people riding scooters in a manner that is totally unsafe? 3+ people at a time or by kids barely old enough to wipe their own <deleted>?

When will Thailand do anything about the propensity of poorly lit, poorly maintained roads?

When will Thailand do anything about the propensity of unsafe cars and drivers, kids on the roads?

When will Thailand do anything about the propensity of signages that often obscure warning signs that are intended to improve safety on the roads?

When will Thailand do anything about the propensity of doing nothing about the problems that occur on a daily basis instead of reacting in a state of shock or horror, when these things do happen???????

When will, when will?????????????

Not until they are educated properly...But don't forget, Thais can do no wrong...

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