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Why All The Focus On Artificial Pond Fishing?

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I am surprised that this forum seems to focus almost 100% on fishing in ponds over stocked with over fed fish which you can catch pretty much every 5-10 minutes. As a fisherman i just don't see the challenge.

Is it purely because there are no natural lakes/rivers around?

Not trolling (so to speak) just curious.

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Maybe the same reason some go to a Bar ... as apposed as going to a NightClub.

Guaranteed Catch ... whistling.gif

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"it purely because there are no natural lakes/rivers around?"

Yes, it is very hard to find any good natural source of fishing venues. Unfortunately, there is no foundation for hobby fishing apart form the so-called fishing parks. I think, there authorities, organizations to look after natural water systems in terms of fishing, no one places out fish to increase fish stocks (my thoughts). No catch and release too. People go out and take whatever they can.

I am a keen hobby fisherman, but I find it hard to enjoy fishing here. I have tried a couple of natural sources in the south, got almost zero success, but wherever I go fishing I can see fish thieves, large group of locals, armed with different nets raking through the actual place. And when I find a good source holding some fish, you can be sure that group of locals are lining up along the bank and rake through the water with their multi hooked fishing rods. No fishing intended, no baits used but the raking method.

Probably, the North is a better source of fresh water fishing than the South. I have heard the Salween or Moei rivers are good as well as the Kanchanaburi area.

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...because in many waters around Thailand that are wild, you'd easily believe there were no fish left in the water at all.

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I know of a fish hatchery in Phetchabun that routinely drops 10s of thousands of fingerlings into the local lakes. It is government run so I would expect others in different provinces. I know of one of the lakes that has access only to remote areas away from the dam. Most of the lakes around have good fishing from time to time, but only a few of the really dedicated locals can consitantly catch fish on a rod.

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I know of a fish hatchery in Phetchabun that routinely drops 10s of thousands of fingerlings into the local lakes. It is government run so I would expect others in different provinces. I know of one of the lakes that has access only to remote areas away from the dam. Most of the lakes around have good fishing from time to time, but only a few of the really dedicated locals can consitantly catch fish on a rod.

It's good to hear there are fish hatcheries around, never heard of them here. I guess there is a sort of protection by the government, or they are under some sort of surveillance or by chance they are part of natural parks.

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I know of a fish hatchery in Phetchabun that routinely drops 10s of thousands of fingerlings into the local lakes.

I'd be curious what type of fish they're stocking.

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I go wild fishing quite often in various dams but mostly lure fishing for predators, Still i frequent pay for play ponds at times....some are quite fantastic, Bungsamran for instance is a pond where you can catch fish not allowed to target in the wild and is considered more of a social outing not being in the sun all day.

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They stock Pla Nin, Pla Esook, Pla Tapian, Pla Nia, and even prawns. They are not secret. You can visit and look around and when they aren't raising for the lakes the hatch and sell to local farmers. For the farmers they hatch mostly sex reversed tilapia and catfish. They also do some research.

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When I came to live in Thailand seven years ago, I bought all the fishing gear, then when I went out to watch people fishing at a huge lake recommended to me, I saw one man with about eight rods moving from one to the other all the time and could only catch a few small fish about 3 inches long, that put me off, now my fishing gear has been lying in the house and never used.

What I cannot understand even to this day, there are beautiful rivers all around where I live, and I never see anyone fishing in them, just why is that? I am not stupid enough to just go and start fishing by myself when I know there must be a reason why these beautiful rivers are never fished. If I saw other people fishing them I would have joined them years ago.

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When I came to live in Thailand seven years ago, I bought all the fishing gear, then when I went out to watch people fishing at a huge lake recommended to me, I saw one man with about eight rods moving from one to the other all the time and could only catch a few small fish about 3 inches long, that put me off, now my fishing gear has been lying in the house and never used.

What I cannot understand even to this day, there are beautiful rivers all around where I live, and I never see anyone fishing in them, just why is that? I am not stupid enough to just go and start fishing by myself when I know there must be a reason why these beautiful rivers are never fished. If I saw other people fishing them I would have joined them years ago.

The majority of those waters have been fished. With nets and electricity and... In fact, if the technology existed to remove every single fish at a profit, every fish would be removed.

Those fish that remain are the ones that can't be exploited at a profit. Either too small, or too widespread to make them worth exploiting commercially. Hardly a recipe for a successful wild sport fishing venue.

I can't say I blame most folks for wanting to make a living and/or feed their family. I'd love to be all righteous and pissed off but it's only natural in an environment where wages can be so low.

So I fish the artificial ponds.

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When I came to live in Thailand seven years ago, I bought all the fishing gear, then when I went out to watch people fishing at a huge lake recommended to me, I saw one man with about eight rods moving from one to the other all the time and could only catch a few small fish about 3 inches long, that put me off, now my fishing gear has been lying in the house and never used.

What I cannot understand even to this day, there are beautiful rivers all around where I live, and I never see anyone fishing in them, just why is that? I am not stupid enough to just go and start fishing by myself when I know there must be a reason why these beautiful rivers are never fished. If I saw other people fishing them I would have joined them years ago.

The majority of those waters have been fished. With nets and electricity and... In fact, if the technology existed to remove every single fish at a profit, every fish would be removed.

Those fish that remain are the ones that can't be exploited at a profit. Either too small, or too widespread to make them worth exploiting commercially. Hardly a recipe for a successful wild sport fishing venue.

I can't say I blame most folks for wanting to make a living and/or feed their family. I'd love to be all righteous and pissed off but it's only natural in an environment where wages can be so low.

So I fish the artificial ponds.

Thanks impulse, you've been very helpful.

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When I came to live in Thailand seven years ago, I bought all the fishing gear, then when I went out to watch people fishing at a huge lake recommended to me, I saw one man with about eight rods moving from one to the other all the time and could only catch a few small fish about 3 inches long, that put me off, now my fishing gear has been lying in the house and never used.

What I cannot understand even to this day, there are beautiful rivers all around where I live, and I never see anyone fishing in them, just why is that? I am not stupid enough to just go and start fishing by myself when I know there must be a reason why these beautiful rivers are never fished. If I saw other people fishing them I would have joined them years ago.

The majority of those waters have been fished. With nets and electricity and... In fact, if the technology existed to remove every single fish at a profit, every fish would be removed.

Those fish that remain are the ones that can't be exploited at a profit. Either too small, or too widespread to make them worth exploiting commercially. Hardly a recipe for a successful wild sport fishing venue.

I can't say I blame most folks for wanting to make a living and/or feed their family. I'd love to be all righteous and pissed off but it's only natural in an environment where wages can be so low.

So I fish the artificial ponds.

Sad, but all these words are true.

I have once seen people fishing in fast flowing river, that was at a dam where all of them were snagging, using multiple hooks and trying to lodge their hooks into the fish by yanking. It was appalling to see as hundreds of them were doing the same. I was there with a guy and he asked me if I wanted "fishing" there. I politely refejected the offer saying I needed a bite at first.

Anyway, we should not forget the difficulty of fishing in fast flowing rivers and the high chance of losing expensive tackles.

As for artificial ponds, I have fished some of them, only local ones with local "fishermen", and find it really strange how many people can mass on one lake standing 1 meter from each other. Main features of these places in my area : roaring music, loud people, casting across others' gears..... I have almost lost my temper a couple of times.

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Thanks impulse, you've been very helpful.

If you're using the sarcasm button on that post, I have to agree. It's not as bad as I painted it- there are some decent wild fishing venues. Not so many, but I'd hate to discourage anyone from looking, or hiring a guide because some of them seem to know where to find them.

I need to watch how much coffee I drink before stepping up to the keyboard....

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