pipo1000 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ok I spoke to the manager of the Ave and it appears they have not paid their rent or utilities for sometime and the landlord is simply enforcing their rights - allegedly. A well know Falang pub in the same centre is also alleged to have done the same and is up for sale for B10 million Great decision from the manager as now he has set the final step which creates a complete dungeon of his shopping center.Also, if Cawow indeed has a court order as they said in there first message on the gate, this might come back to bite him in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukizatrus Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If it is still closed today (has anybody been there yet today? Can someone assure me that I needn't go there and look) I will give a visit to Universe and tell about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yes, still closed about an hour ago. Sign says they hope it will be sorted and reopen Monday afternoon. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadoo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ok I spoke to the manager of the Ave and it appears they have not paid their rent or utilities for sometime and the landlord is simply enforcing their rights - allegedly. A well know Falang pub in the same centre is also alleged to have done the same and is up for sale for B10 million Great decision from the manager as now he has set the final step which creates a complete dungeon of his shopping center.Also, if Cawow indeed has a court order as they said in there first message on the gate, this might come back to bite him in the arse. I don't think the owners (A family group) of the Ave which there are many AVE's in Thailand really care - I think their pull much outweighs that of the Farang who owns the chain of gyms. It is normal Thai Chinese mentality, they would rather have it empty if rent is not coming in. Its more a status thing - just look at older more abandon style centers in Pattaya like jomtien complex, the centre on the corner of dolphin roundabout and there is a semi abandoned centre half way along jomtien beach which are all owned by a family of thai Chinese who would rather have them empty if rent is not coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricklev Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) The Avenue is owned by a company in which Major is the major shareholder and Major used to be the major shareholder in Cal Wow. The Cal Wows in Bangkok located in Major malls are shut also. This is different from the ones they planned on closing at the end of the month. Ekamie and Pinklao which are located in Major malls were supposed to stay open. Paragon Cal Wow told me Ekamie will reopen on Wednesday, but the guy I spoke with was just parroting something someone told him to say. Edited June 24, 2012 by ricklev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Here's a snapshot of the notice they placed on the door: The main words here are "Courts Protection". So the Manager of the Avenue doesn't care about the Bankruptcy protection order. What's point of getting that then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadoo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 The Avenue is owned by a company in which Major is the major shareholder and Major used to be the major shareholder in Cal Wow. The Cal Wows in Bangkok located in Major malls are shut also. This is different from the ones they planned on closing at the end of the month. Ekamie and Pinklao which are located in Major malls were supposed to stay open. Paragon Cal Wow told me Ekamie will reopen on Wednesday, but the guy I spoke with was just parroting something someone told him to say. Yes correct it is Major who is majority owned by a thai Chinese family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) There's nothing even close. To cover all that is special about California Wow over other gyms in Pattaya is beyond the scope of this thread. That would be a long list indeed. would change to: There's nothing even close for the price. To cover all that is special about California Wow over other gyms in Pattaya is beyond the scope of this thread. That would be a long list indeed. Nobody has brought up the Dusit, was a member there for many years, it is the 5 star work place but is really expensive.............. [ie much better than CA Wow, not even close] Nonsense. There's nothing even close in Pattaya for any price. You can't include hotel fitness clubs as serious alternatives for people who train hardcore. Sure, for many a shiny hotel fitness club will do the trick, but not for me. My comment was in the context of a gym suitable for the type of training I do. ... and further to that, I don't train to a price. I cannot put a price on a good workout. I train everyday for hours and don't look at the price of a membership but rather the quality of workouts I can achieve. If I could find a place three times the price where I could have better workouts, I'd be training there. To put this into perspective, if there was a Gold's or World Gym (American standard) in Pattaya for 60,000 baht per year - I'd be training there. Wouldn't think twice. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Yeah that is the Tonys i have been going to. Upstairs is okay but all the good weight stuff is downstairs and it is terribly hot in there. What goes on across the road where the pool used to be? Same same with more cardio equipment, less equipment and less space. It's likely to be cooler though because it's a "real" building. It's hard to keep a plastic tent with a tin roof cool no matter how many aircon units you run. I just don't know at what level Tony has been running his aircons at the old gym these days. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 So, but CAWOW is still closed today? (Yes, I do have the small hope that it might reopen) If you read the notice I posted, they're saying they may rectify the situation by Monday afternoon. Let's keep our fingers crossed on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 If it is still closed today (has anybody been there yet today? Can someone assure me that I needn't go there and look) I will give a visit to Universe and tell about it... Stay tuned to this thread. We will report the moment it's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 There's nothing even close. To cover all that is special about California Wow over other gyms in Pattaya is beyond the scope of this thread. That would be a long list indeed. would change to: There's nothing even close for the price. To cover all that is special about California Wow over other gyms in Pattaya is beyond the scope of this thread. That would be a long list indeed. Nobody has brought up the Dusit, was a member there for many years, it is the 5 star work place but is really expensive.............. [ie much better than CA Wow, not even close] Nonsense. There's nothing even close in Pattaya for any price. You can't include hotel fitness clubs as serious alternatives for people who train hardcore. Sure, for many a shiny hotel fitness club will do the trick, but not for me. My comment was in the context of a gym suitable for the type of training I do. ... and further to that, I don't train to a price. I cannot put a price on a good workout. I train everyday for hours and don't look at the price of a membership but rather the quality of workouts I can achieve. If I could find a place three times the price where I could have better workouts, I'd be training there. To put this into perspective, if there was a Gold's or World Gym (American standard) in Pattaya for 60,000 baht per year - I'd be training there. Wouldn't think twice. Actually there is, but it's a little way out on the Darkside, Castra Gym (Google Maps link). Large, well-equipped, aircon, inexpensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dongtanpatters Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Alan that is a nice little place for a normal trainer.But if you are bordering on hardcore training then you cannot compare caste gym to a American standard hardcore gym. Edited June 24, 2012 by Dongtanpatters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Alan that is a nice little place for a normal trainer.But if you are bordering on hardcore training then you cannot compare caste gym to a American standard hardcore gym. Was that a reply to me? My name is not Alan... If by Caste you mean Castra, are you sure you've seen it? Recently? I was well impressed when I saw it. A friend showed it to me and if it wasn't that my village has an excellent gym that I use for free I would certainly train there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukizatrus Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Well, went to the Universe Gym today: Concerning the equipment it is OK (to some extent nice such as rowing but on the other hand partly badly equipped), the staff is friendly but it is quite warm. I really hope CAWOW reopens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg1953 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Any members of Castra Gym on this forum who would care to share an overview of the gym? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Actually there is, but it's a little way out on the Darkside, Castra Gym (Google Maps link). Large, well-equipped, aircon, inexpensive. Cheers! I'll give them a go tomorrow if California is still closed. I don't care how far it is as long as I can have a decent workout. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Castra's Saturday and Sunday opening hours are hard to believe: 9am to 2pm. That's going to make weekend training difficult, especially considering I normally start my workouts after 2pm. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah that sounds unlikely, but what do I know. Maybe give them a call to check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangBuddha Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I was at the Tonys next to the Muay thai place opposite to were i used to go which had the swimming pool. Fairtex is a bit out of the way. How much is it for a casual visit and does it have a good weight room? The new 2 level gym with the plastic facade? Sports World. It was the gym we had to "prepare to be amazed" about when he was constructing it in 2010. The weight room at Fairtex is reasonable. There is some decent equipment in there. One problem I have with it is that it's too small and they only have one of everything - 1 x flat bench, 1 x lat pulldown etc. They charge 300 baht for a casual session. There's only one way to really find out if you like a gym or not - do a casual session. It's to keep out the riff-raff...hopefully not too many of the WOW meatheads will make it down our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOKEMDANO Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Same story in Pinklao. Something about "not having paid the electric bill" That's another club added to the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) It's to keep out the riff-raff...hopefully not too many of the WOW meatheads will make it down our way! Here you go again! Perhaps you're "riff-raff". It's not a great gym but the yearly membership is only 1601 baht more than Tony's with 3 times the air-conditioning. You can bet your bottom dollar they're going to get a lot of ex-Calfornia Wow members if it shuts. Just me mentioning here how cheap their yearly rate is will help. (and I'm glad to be of service). You can thank me later when you find your gym is just busy to move around in. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankxxxxxxxxxx Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Tony would offer the Thai price to foreigners if he was honest and wanted more customers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Castra's Saturday and Sunday opening hours are hard to believe: 9am to 2pm. That's going to make weekend training difficult, especially considering I normally start my workouts after 2pm. Weekends tend to be very quiet in there - just me and another couple in there this morning though two guys did come in seperately to have a look round. Having said that weekday mornings are fairly quiet most days as well. Not sure if it gets busier in the afternoon. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Castra's Saturday and Sunday opening hours are hard to believe: 9am to 2pm. That's going to make weekend training difficult, especially considering I normally start my workouts after 2pm. Weekends tend to be very quiet in there - just me and another couple in there this morning though two guys did come in seperately to have a look round. Having said that weekday mornings are fairly quiet most days as well. Not sure if it gets busier in the afternoon. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Keeping hours like that on weekends would assure it staying quiet too. It's a catch 22. Gyms need to be open all hours to get customers. Most weekend trainers would tend to start later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipo1000 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Castra's Saturday and Sunday opening hours are hard to believe: 9am to 2pm. That's going to make weekend training difficult, especially considering I normally start my workouts after 2pm. Weekends tend to be very quiet in there - just me and another couple in there this morning though two guys did come in seperately to have a look round. Having said that weekday mornings are fairly quiet most days as well. Not sure if it gets busier in the afternoon. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Maybe it nver gets busy , and soon will not only close early during the week-ends but every day of the week same as Cawow does for the last few days.Not sure if a membership is a good idea in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Have you considered a five days a week - rest on the weekend - program? No. If you must rest for 2 days it's illogical to take them consecutively when you can make better use of them spread more evenly over the week. e.g. 3 days on one day off, or 2 days on one day off. I've never trained 5 days on 2 days off (on weekends) and I'm not about to start just because a gym cannot maintain reasonable opening hours. That was one of the good things about California Wow - always open until 9, 10 or 11pm. I didn't have to alter my routine to fit in with the gyms opening hours. Edited June 24, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Not sure if a membership is a good idea in that case. Is there any gym where you could sign up and confidently know it's going to be around for the full length of your membership? There's no regulations here to protect the consumer. We're sitting ducks no matter where we sign up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoedan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) I was at the Tonys next to the Muay thai place opposite to were i used to go which had the swimming pool. Fairtex is a bit out of the way. How much is it for a casual visit and does it have a good weight room? The new 2 level gym with the plastic facade? Sports World. It was the gym we had to "prepare to be amazed" about when he was constructing it in 2010. The weight room at Fairtex is reasonable. There is some decent equipment in there. One problem I have with it is that it's too small and they only have one of everything - 1 x flat bench, 1 x lat pulldown etc. They charge 300 baht for a casual session. There's only one way to really find out if you like a gym or not - do a casual session. It's to keep out the riff-raff...hopefully not too many of the WOW meatheads will make it down our way! Keep it up FB - always nice to see your gloating comments. Edited June 24, 2012 by londoedan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 10am. Still locked up - no one around - nothing happening. Checked out Castra. It's ok, will have to do for a workout today, but it's nothing to get excited about. They have a lot of locally made (shitty) equipment exactly the same as they use at Tony's. The lat pulldown stack goes up in 20lb graduations - that's ridiculous even for strong people. There's one thing absolutely incredible about this gym. It's very rare even at the most hardcore of gyms - they have DB's up to 185lbs. They just seem so out of place in such a low key suburban type of gym. They recently changed Saturday & Sunday hours to 6pm close. I'll see you down there! Casual visit - only 99 baht. Yearly membership 4999 baht. Let's keep our fingers crossed for California opening later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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