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Avoid Phuket At All Costs: Crime Capital Of Asia

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No doubt you,ll be hounded for being alarmist by both those who have vested interests in maintaining the facade of Thailand as a dream holidat destination and those who prefer to keep there heads burried in the sand.

Phuket truly is a wretched place, I was beaten unconcious by two Thais outside 7*11 around 3 years ago myself, all for the grand sum of around 600 bht.

check this link http://www.thephuket...amily-31469.php

The fact is the veil is really being lifted oh Thailand these days as the crooks and skum become ever bolder, with scams and deciets getting taken to a whole new level.

Just last week I had a Thai guy come up to outside the mall in Siam square and demand 20 bht, I politely said mai pen rai cap and moved away. The nutter started screaming and frothing at the mouth calling me everything under the sun. I do not doubt he was on the point of attacking me until the mall security overheard and started coming in my direction. He walked away pretending to shoot me with his finger.

These stories are everywhere everyday and soon people will start turning there backs on the place en masse.

I've also seen incidents like that in UK and USA. Not just a Thai problem. I've been here for 2 years and haven't seen any violent incidents at all. I've spent 6 months In New York and seen a few. And I've seen plenty of incidents like this in the UK. What you describe is just one mad person. It sounds like an isolated incident. I've been to Siam Square lots of times and never seen anything remotely like what you described.

You sound like the governor.........

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Most of the problems I see aren't related to buying commercial goods or credit, but to Thai's pandemic addiction to Yaba.

Amost everybody underestimates how many people here are addicted and how far they will go to have more.

I Agree Yaba use is now common place.

I have a truck driver and one day he's sleepy and going slow, next day he's clearly "speeding" and smells from meters away of AMP BO (amphetamin body odor - a sharp chemical metallic smell).

He probably needs Yaba to be where I'd be with a couple of strong coffees - simply brain chemistry.

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>>The Tuk Tuk owners are required to pay the BIB every month, that's why more of them appear on the road than are actually necessary and the reason why the BIB won't get rid of them because it is a major source of income.

No no, that's wrong. The tuk tuk association pays the bibs after each operator makes his monthly contribution to the association. Corruption would never be so transparent that you would see individual drivers handing over their 10-15K/mo smile.png.

OOPS, sorry about that..............one more link in the corruption chain. However you CAN see many of the bar owners handing over their monthly "contribution" to the plain clothed BIB collector if you look carefully.

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Shock horror - there's crime in a massively popular tourist resort with huge disparities between the rich and poor and a serious drugs problem as well! Why the surprise? And certainly no different to countless other popular tourist destinations.

But hey that's journalism and alarming people creates great headlines and sells papers.

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Sure you can find more crime in certain parts of London, Sydney and New York. But here is a clue - They Are Not Tourist Destinations! If anything the opposite is true. If you are trying excuse the situation by attempting to compare Phuket's crime statistics favourably with some of the most crime blighted spots on the planet, then you really _are_ living in Fantasy Land.

Compare like with like. Which other tourist destinations have similar patterns of crime. Once upon a time, South Beach Miami might have done; no longer. Agra perhaps? It is a tough job to find anywhere that consistently gets so much bad press _as a tourist destination_ as Phuket.

What fantasy island are you living on ???

Sydney, London and New York are most likely the single biggest tourist magnet in each of the 3 countries.

Here is a hint, where is the olympics taking place this year ? Where is the most famous skyline in the world ? Where is the most famous opera house and most famous harbour bridge in the world ?

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The problem, like for many other places, are the money. There are so much investors and money around Phuket, so many peoples bought a car or a new motorbike and almost all has an iPhone or iPad. Few years ago around we had a lot of internet cafe' now many are closing because so many peoples bought a computer or tablet and play from home using 3G. The quick and easy way the people here make money is the base for criminals. If few years ago they can get an handbag where inside the contents was an old nokia phone and few thb now is different. If you come in any of the disco in Patong you can easy see how many iPhone there are, is a 20k device, sold in a black market can give the amount of a normal monthly salary this is why the crimes is increased and will increase more.

The crime increase where are the money because the interest increase. I live in Phuket since 8 years and i can easy see the differences between now and few years ago.

Partly right but there is much more than that! Everything starts [has started] with the tuk-tuk maffia. They were the first in place and hijacked/monopolised about all sorts of transport by their unified rip-off prices, being five to tenfold of any other transport anywhere else in the country. The Governor, reportedly benefitting from this wealth, hasn't done anything against this situation and this has lasted for many years where it suddenly became "institutionalised". Now, police announces these exhorbitant tuk-tuk tarrifs in their police station and by this, nobody can complain anymore...

It's a whole maffia all together...

My suggestion: start cleaning the dirt from the stairs from the top downwards... and not in the other direction!

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Is it me or does CNN not have anything online regarding the recent woman in phuket robbed and murdered? Can anyone find a link?

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Sure you can find more crime in certain parts of London, Sydney and New York. But here is a clue - They Are Not Tourist Destinations! If anything the opposite is true. If you are trying excuse the situation by attempting to compare Phuket's crime statistics favourably with some of the most crime blighted spots on the planet, then you really _are_ living in Fantasy Land.

Compare like with like. Which other tourist destinations have similar patterns of crime. Once upon a time, South Beach Miami might have done; no longer. Agra perhaps? It is a tough job to find anywhere that consistently gets so much bad press _as a tourist destination_ as Phuket.

What fantasy island are you living on ???

Sydney, London and New York are most likely the single biggest tourist magnet in each of the 3 countries.

Here is a hint, where is the olympics taking place this year ? Where is the most famous skyline in the world ? Where is the most famous opera house and most famous harbour bridge in the world ?

A bit more detail:

Tourist visitors to London 2011 - 14.6 million

Tourist visitors to Sydney year end 2010 - 2.8 million

Tourist visitors to New York end 2011 - 50.5 million

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I feel sad for the real this living on Phuket.

My thai wife and I went to phuket 6 Years ago.

Pease and quit. People on phuket was proud of the low crime and

every body told us... come to phuket..much more safe than pattaya....

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What are the chances of an organised "Farang stop crime against tourists campaign" event day with organised walk? Which begs the question will this have any effect at all besides highlighting?

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Most of the problems I see aren't related to buying commercial goods or credit, but to Thai's pandemic addiction to Yaba.

Amost everybody underestimates how many people here are addicted and how far they will go to have more.

I agree with you that drug addicts are probably a contributing factor in the "crime wave" of Phuket. But, IMO, the much larger problem is Thailand's pandemic addiction to corruption. What kind of "clean-up" is possible when a country has a national police force that has very little connection with enforcement of laws but instead is often an integral part of the criminal activities and criminal organizations?

The thing that seem to really frustrates so many posters here is not solely the crimes committed but rather the attitude and reactions of the Thai police and Thai government to those crimes. Crimes are committed against tourists and residents in U.S., Canada, Europe, Australia, and other countries also. But there, the police, for the most part, seem to consider public safety and enforcement of the law their job. Crimes are actually investigated and, in most cases, best efforts are made to arrest, try, and convict the criminals. Reaction is not guided solely by how much money the police can extort or "how bad it makes __________ look".

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Most of the problems I see aren't related to buying commercial goods or credit, but to Thai's pandemic addiction to Yaba.

Almost everybody underestimates how many people here are addicted and how far they will go to have more.

If you look at alcoholic drinks as drugs, which they are, then you might adjust your outlook. If you're like most ex-pats, you probably drink beer or harder stuff, so you naturally don't want to perceive of alcohol as 'drugs.' BTW, the sicko stabbing of the two Aussie women, was drug-related. The stabber need money to pay his bar bill. I'm not in favor of criminalizing alcoholic drinks and the plethora of dealers involved with that trade. Rather, I'm in favor of de-criminalizing all drugs, and deal with druggies as people with problems, rather than criminals.

Easy solution is cheap mass transit the Tuk Tuks will disappear and people can hop on and off buses /light trains so to eradicate the opportunist watching and waiting for people having to walk due to the over priced short rides of the present day available transport ,as for the police well kick the lot out start again...

Good point, but much too sensible for Thai authorities to take seriously. Plus, Phuket authorities couldn't implement it (mass transit in lieu of overpriced taxis), even if they wanted to, .....any more than they could outlaw jet-ski rentals. The reasons are obvious.

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This report has hit the nail on the head. No doubt about it. The tourist that come to Phuket are walking into a dangerous place. The odds of being a victim of violent crime there is very high.

I would not recommend Phuket to my worst enemy. It is a crap hole full of criminals and the police will not protect or help you when you have trouble. They're good only for ripping you off nightly with the "tourist road blocks". The criminals know this and so the crimes become more bolder and violent day by day.

There is a tremendous choice of other locations to go and enjoy safe fun AND reasonable pricing, You have to be a bloody fool to even consider Phuket. The word is out, and year by year less people will vacation there. About the only attraction there now is for the other criminals to come and play with each other.

Go to Burma, Malaysia, Indonesia, Viet Nam, China and get a lot more for a lot less than Phuket. And the best part is you won't have to return home in a body bag or scammed out of all your money.

Phuket is nothing more than a crime infested crap hole. I feel sorry for you guys looking through your rose colored glasses. I understand that as business owners you stand a lot to lose. Such is life. If it were me, I'd sell out while the getting is good. You really put your families in danger sticking your heads in the sand about the fact Phuket is a dam_n dangerous place to be. Best to start thinking about family as opposed to your pocketbook (which will dry up soon enough anyway).

Good Luck and Happy Trails.

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Stories still abound of record numbers of tourists entering through Phuket airport and hotels having bumper years . It seems for all the people who realise how expensive it is compared to the rest of the country and how dangerous it can be , there are still more coming from Russia and China and Hong Kong etc who have heard none of this and still think its the idyllic paradise getatway.....and i have seen some horrendous violence here,...Thai on Thai and Ladyboy on farang,...the latter quite nasty ,...very skilled with a stiletto .

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