Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

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Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

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BANGKOK: -- Pansak Vinyaratn, the former chief political adviser to ousted Prime Miister Thaksin Shinawatra, has reappeared in the same role for the Pheu Thai government headed by Thaksin’s sister Yingluck, according to a government spokesman.

Called “Thaksin’s Oracle” in dispatches by US diplomats liberated by the website Wikileaks and “Rasputin” by others, the appointment is even clearer evidence, if any were needed, just how integral to Yingluck’s government Thaksin is and appears to be sign of the reassembling of the Thai Rak Thai government in place prior to the 2006 coup.

It is uncertain what effect Pansak’s appoint might have. In earlier years, he was close to Sondhi Limtongkul, the Thai publishing tycoon who initially supported Thaksin’s government but who broke with te former premier and became the de facto leader of the Yellow Shirts, the People’s Alliance for Democracy. The PAD’s violent tactics ultimately played a major role in bringing down not only Thaksin’s government but two surrogate ones that followed. A onetime newsman, Pansak was the first editor of Asia Times, Sondhi’s abortive regional broadsheet daily, which went broke in the wake of the 1997-1998 Asian Financial Crisis. [more...]

Full story: http://www.asiasenti...4661&Itemid=185

-- Asia Sentinel 2012-07-05

[nurofiend]

In earlier years, he was close to Sondhi Limtongkul, the Thai publishing tycoon who initially supported Thaksin’s government but who broke with te former premier and became the de facto leader of the Yellow Shirts, the People’s Alliance for Democracy.

because thaksin wouldn't intervene to help sondhi get his 1.6 billion debt.. and more.. removed

there's plenty of thaksins in thailand...

[fareastguy]

So Ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has the loyalty of Pansak Vinyaratn & both have control of the strings attached to Yingluk.. tell us something we don't know!!

Edited July 5, 2012 by metisdead
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[h90]

In earlier years, he was close to Sondhi Limtongkul, the Thai publishing tycoon who initially supported Thaksin’s government but who broke with te former premier and became the de facto leader of the Yellow Shirts, the People’s Alliance for Democracy.

because thaksin wouldn't intervene to help sondhi get his 1.6 billion debt.. and more.. removed

there's plenty of thaksins in thailand...

Which is a rumor.....

The same rumors tell that he later offered to pay all his debts if he finish and he rejected it, because he want to help the country....

All just rumors.....

[GentlemanJim]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

[Pib]

I expect Khun Pansak is a tenured/long-time employee of the Thaksin family business, Thailand Incorporated.

[OzMick]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury), but it seems members of a PTP government do not attract criminal charges - not in their term of office at least.

[Ferangled]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury), but it seems members of a PTP government do not attract criminal charges - not in their term of office at least.

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

[pedro01]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

LOL!

My thoughts, excactly....

Not as if his performance was stellar now, is it?

[tomross46]

PM Yingluck needs a guru from Thaksin, is Skype, Facebook and Twitter broken?

[phiphidon]

The PAD’s violent tactics ultimately played a major role in bringing down not only Thaksin’s government but two surrogate ones that followed

What? Surely some mistake here, the PAD are not violent, well, according to the posts I read on this forum anyway..............

[hellodolly]

So now she will have a seasoned hands on adviser to show her how to make more money for her self.

[Thaddeus]

The PAD’s violent tactics ultimately played a major role in bringing down not only Thaksin’s government but two surrogate ones that followed

What? Surely some mistake here, the PAD are not violent, well, according to the posts I read on this forum anyway..............

When I first read that I raised an eyebrow.

Then just thought, who and how long?

[whybother]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/544245-dsi-closes-case-against-pm-yingluck-on-alleged-concealment-of-shin-corp-shareholding/

Phiphidon: I know this is off topic, but I am just answering a question.

[saltandpepper]

family business....I use it, you use it, we use it....

From now they will be singing the same tune. Wait, YS already sings TS lyrics....what's the use then?

[Ferangled]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa....p-shareholding/

Thank you.

So OzMick is simply engaging in slander against the Prime Minister "Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury)", as in fact there was no charge, no case. The investigation was dropped, she wasn't charged and never went to court because under the law at that time no offence had been committed.

The Department of Special Investigation has dropped its investigation against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on the grounds for lack of cause to suspect a criminal offence.

[OzMick]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa....p-shareholding/

Thank you.

So OzMick is simply engaging in slander against the Prime Minister "Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury)", as in fact there was no charge, no case. The investigation was dropped, she wasn't charged and never went to court because under the law at that time no offence had been committed.

The Department of Special Investigation has dropped its investigation against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on the grounds for lack of cause to suspect a criminal offence.

That's right. Giving evidence in court and lying your Rs off is NOT perjury if your name is Shinawatra. Actually the quote should have been "lack of motivation to suspect a criminal offense" which is quite common in lackeys and sycophants.

[Ferangled]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa....p-shareholding/

Thank you.

So OzMick is simply engaging in slander against the Prime Minister "Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury)", as in fact there was no charge, no case. The investigation was dropped, she wasn't charged and never went to court because under the law at that time no offence had been committed.

The Department of Special Investigation has dropped its investigation against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on the grounds for lack of cause to suspect a criminal offence.

That's right. Giving evidence in court and lying your Rs off is NOT perjury if your name is Shinawatra. Actually the quote should have been "lack of motivation to suspect a criminal offense" which is quite common in lackeys and sycophants.

Yes Mick, quite clearly the Shinawatra family are above the law.... explains why Thaskin was never convicted of anything, never had his assets stolen seized and didn't flee the country...errr... selective reasoning perhaps?!

[OzMick]

In any such high profile case, the matter should be decided in a court of law rather than a decree by some morally malleable and politically influenced lackey, if only to remove any suspicion of evasion. In this case, the perception is based on fact - there is very little wiggle room when you say "those shares are mine" and the judge decides they were not.

[h90]

The PAD’s violent tactics ultimately played a major role in bringing down not only Thaksin’s government but two surrogate ones that followed

What? Surely some mistake here, the PAD are not violent, well, according to the posts I read on this forum anyway..............

You are getting reasonable....

[Ferangled]

In any such high profile case, the matter should be decided in a court of law rather than a decree by some morally malleable and politically influenced lackey, if only to remove any suspicion of evasion. In this case, the perception is based on fact - there is very little wiggle room when you say "those shares are mine" and the judge decides they were not.

For something to get to court there has to be a case to answer first and sufficient evidence to charge that person, otherwise the system would grind to a halt with all the political mudslinging and trumped up law suits that are part and parcel of Thai politics.

Clearly there wasn't but don't let that stop you hijacking yet another thread to obsess over one particular family.

Here was I thinking only carthorses wore blinkers....

[Yunla]

When I first read that I raised an eyebrow.

Then just thought, who and how long?

That's exactly what Yingluck is thinking when she gets into the elevator at Four Seasons.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Yunla

[Yunla]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

I bet she's looking forward to the pole-vault most of all. Or perhaps the relay-races, since she knows all about being passed the baton.

[Yunla]

It is uncertain what effect Pansak’s appoint might have.

It will give a vaguely human face to the increasingly distraught and unhinged messages arriving from Dubai.

[Thaddeus]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

I bet she's looking forward to the pole-vault most of all. Or perhaps the relay-races, since she knows all about being passed the baton.

Please dear, we don't want that to start all over again.

[Yunla]

Please dear, we don't want that to start all over again.

What do you mean? The Olympics don't start until the 27th July.

[whybother]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa....p-shareholding/

Thank you.

So OzMick is simply engaging in slander against the Prime Minister "Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury)", as in fact there was no charge, no case. The investigation was dropped, she wasn't charged and never went to court because under the law at that time no offence had been committed.

The Department of Special Investigation has dropped its investigation against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on the grounds for lack of cause to suspect a criminal offence.

You're quite correct. She wasn't charged with perjury. But she is a proven liar.

Sent from my shoe phone

[bigbamboo]

Chief Thaksin Advisor Now Yingluck's Guru

So can we now expect Yingluck to visit the opening of the London Olympics and whilst there she will be ousted by a Military coup? Or perhaps she will be encouraged to engage in activities that will attract criminal charges, or both maybe?

I bet she's looking forward to the pole-vault most of all. Or perhaps the relay-races, since she knows all about being passed the baton.

Synchronised swimming I think...... following a carefully staged routine as you maintain a fixed smile for the audience whilst keeping your mouth firmly shut.

[Ferangled]

Please give details of this criminal act of perjury. Far too much mud slinging on here and impossible to tell fact from fiction without evidence.

Here is the closing of the perjury case against Yingluck. Basically they decided that she lied in court during Thaksin's asset concealment case, but for some weird reason they decided not to charge her.

http://www.thaivisa....p-shareholding/

Thank you.

So OzMick is simply engaging in slander against the Prime Minister "Yingluck has already committed at least one criminal act (perjury)", as in fact there was no charge, no case. The investigation was dropped, she wasn't charged and never went to court because under the law at that time no offence had been committed.

The Department of Special Investigation has dropped its investigation against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on the grounds for lack of cause to suspect a criminal offence.

You're quite correct. She wasn't charged with perjury. But she is a proven liar.

Sent from my shoe phone

I thought that was the first qualification in becoming a Thai MP...

[Thaddeus]

Please dear, we don't want that to start all over again.

What do you mean? The Olympics don't start until the 27th July.

I meant the jokes that could be open to misinterpretation to some here, especially the ones lacking in a British sense of humour (with 2 u's)