george Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Dear Members, Due to delivery problems with all types of email addresses by Yahoo.com, Yahoo.co.uk etc etc including Rocketmail.com, we have today banned all Yahoo email addresses to sign up with thaivisa. Blocked from today 2012-08-13: yahoo.com yahoo.com.* (all country specific yahoo email addresses) yahoo.co.* (all country specific yahoo email addresses) Hotmail.com and Live.com addresses will probably be blocked as well shortly. STEP 1: Please change your forum email address to something else than Yahoo! We urge all members to choose other email provider than Yahoo to ensure that you will receive newsletters and email notifications from thaivisa. If you currently using a Yahoo email address on Thaivisa, we urge you to change to something else, like gmail.com or similar To change your email address, just go here: http://www.thaivisa....core&area=email IMPORTANT: You will get a confirmation email to your new email address, and you need to click on the confirmation link in that email! STEP 2: Change your email address for our newsletter as well. Go here: http://www.thaivisa.com/353.0.html - Unsubscribe your Yahoo email address - Subscribe with another email address than Yahoo We apologize for any inconvenience! /Admin -------------------------------------------- UPDATE 2012-08-14: Valued Members, As expected, our announcement regarding problems with Yahoo email addresses has caused some concern amongst existing members. We apologise if this sudden announcement has caused any confusion, but the decision, and it was not an easy one, was made with the interests of you, and future members in mind. For over a year now there has been issues with Yahoo emails reaching our customers. Thaivisa relies on emails for not only our newsletters, but for changed passwords, new registrations, support inquiries, and much more. Altogether that adds up to nearly a quarter of a million emails per day. With so many emails being exchanged between Thaivisa and it's members being blocked, or mis-directed, it got to the point where drastic action was needed to prevent further problems. This means that new users will not be able to sign up using Yahoo accounts. While that may cost us some members, the problems with confirmation emails had already gotten to the point that it was costing us many new members as it is, so the unfortunate call had to be made, but it only affects new sign ups. That is all. No existing accounts will be affected. Existing members can continue to use Yahoo for interactions with Thaivisa. You may have some communication issues, but they do not rest with Thaivisa. The problem is Yahoo. We do not recommend any particular alternative, nor do we have any interest in an alternative email provider. In fact your ISP email is probably the least troublesome. Large providers (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc) tend to be the most troublesome. We did not make this decision in haste. To be perfectly honest, no matter what we did, or did not do, issues beyond our control determined that our members were going to be inconvenienced, and for that we're sorry. However, in the long term we think that this course of action will ultimately be better for all of us, and we appreciate your patience and understanding. Thaivisa.com Edited August 14, 2012 by george Updated 2012-08-14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileplur Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 We are watching the demise of Hotmail and Yahoo email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele404 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 My Aussie university also blocks registration of hotmail and yahoo addresses. anyone who sends me from a hotmail account are labeled as untrustworthy automatically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoedan Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 We are watching the demise of Hotmail and Yahoo email. Wow - I think I've had my yahoo.co.uk email account since I started using the internet eons ago - I'd hate to lose it Is it because of the amount of spam that is re-directed from Yahoo accounts ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 No, it isn't. We are watching the demise of Hotmail and Yahoo email. Wow - I think I've had my yahoo.co.uk email account since I started using the internet eons ago - I'd hate to lose it Is it because of the amount of spam that is re-directed from Yahoo accounts ? You don't have to "lose it". You just need a different one for Thaivisa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileplur Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Microsoft has already announced that they are going to abandon Hotmail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rionoir Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 If I blocked all hotmail email addresses I'd lose a lot of business. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post technologybytes Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 Last year I tried to sign up for Bangkok Bank Internet banking, on the signup form you enter an email address. It could ONLY be @yahoo.com or @hotmail.com I was staggered to say the least. I asked why. The reply "Because it's only a real email address if it ends in @yahoo.com or hotmail.com" said the senior girl behind the desk. Totally unbelieivable, but totally true. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Microsoft has already announced that they are going to abandon Hotmail. But they have already stood-up Outlook.com addresses to replace Hotmail addresses...and their Live.com addresses along with the new Outlook.com addresses will still be supported. But hey, even though I have a live.com email address it's just a backup in case my Gmail accounts ever go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesCh Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 About 5 years ago I learned to avoid Yahoo mail. For one, my girl friend's msgs were blocked from reaching me when she used Yahoo, so she switched to hotmail and all was OK. (She was in southern Thailand and I assume her carrier was blocked, but don't know who it was. A year later Chiang Mai Ram who also used Yahoo could not send my lab reports so one guy in the office sent it via his own email and it was OK. At that time I learned of a way to correct this issue by dealing directly with Yahoo and presumably they did this, but I don't know. Of course I've avoided Yahoo ever since and tell everyone else to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Last year I tried to sign up for Bangkok Bank Internet banking, on the signup form you enter an email address. It could ONLY be @yahoo.com or @hotmail.com I was staggered to say the least. I asked why. The reply "Because it's only a real email address if it ends in @yahoo.com or hotmail.com" said the senior girl behind the desk. Totally unbelieivable, but totally true. I signed up for internet banking several years ago with Bangkok Bank and using my gmail account. Never heard that they would only accept yahoo or hotmail. When was that? Ok. whoops, you said a year ago. And I'm still using gmail for it. Edited August 13, 2012 by Ken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 It would be nice if someone from ThaiVisa would explain in this thread WHY the forum is taking this move against Yahoo addresses....and talking about doing the same for Hotmail and related addresses. I would imagine, for most people in terms of email, they're either using Gmail, Hotmail or some variety of Yahoo mail. If ThaiVisa rules out both Yahoo and Hotmail (and Live.com) addresses, that's pretty much leaving one email major email provider standing in terms of ThaiVisa log-ins. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albacore Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Last year I tried to sign up for Bangkok Bank Internet banking, on the signup form you enter an email address. It could ONLY be @yahoo.com or @hotmail.com I was staggered to say the least. I asked why. The reply "Because it's only a real email address if it ends in @yahoo.com or hotmail.com" said the senior girl behind the desk. Totally unbelieivable, but totally true. I've experienced the same type of thing with Japan Airways, EVA, and some other Asian airlines. It really is unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkjames Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 Our business has no problem delivering to yahoo or hotmail addresses of which we have tens of thousands of subscribers using them, not sure what the problem is here? Suggestion, perhaps admin can send a message to all yahoo and hotmail users of TV notifying them of this change in policy, including me 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgis Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 People using Yahoo or Hotmail Email addresses really know nothing about internet... Yahoo and Hotmail are the worst about SPAM and nobody should use them anymore. Only Gmail rules. But what about Ymail.com ? (also belongs to Yahoo) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keymaker Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) "We apologize for any inconvenience!" This sounds like a very cheap apologizing! Then I don't understand what does this mean "we urge you to change to something else, like gmail.com or similar" so what is similar to gmail? Even the most stupid person on the heart will say Yahoo and Hotmail! You know guys I smell something like marketing practice here as it seems only Gmail will be allowed yet because MOST of people use Yahoo and Hotmail so left those out only Gmail will be allowed here. I guess you will lose too many members! PS: I just decided to cancel my membership, I feel like Gmail paid you guys penuts for converting all users to the their service. I guess most of people don't know that Gmail is the most sued and corrupt company in the US for misleading regarding privacy and telling lies to world's countries regarding deleting STOLEN wifi private data without owners knowledge! So ThaiVisa suggest Gmail right? Edited August 13, 2012 by keymaker 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgis Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 It would be nice if someone from ThaiVisa would explain in this thread WHY the forum is taking this move against Yahoo addresses....and talking about doing the same for Hotmail and related addresses. I would imagine, for most people in terms of email, they're either using Gmail, Hotmail or some variety of Yahoo mail. If ThaiVisa rules out both Yahoo and Hotmail (and Live.com) addresses, that's pretty much leaving one email major email provider standing in terms of ThaiVisa log-ins. Easy to understand: all messages sent by Thaivisa.com are sent to spam/bulk folder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I believe the reasoning is thus, Yahoo don't like bulk email (the newsletters and email notifications) we send out. Thaivisa ends up on spammers block lists. Obviously this is something TV wishes to avoid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Goodbye Thai Visa then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Quick point... i take it that notifications from the classifieds section will now come to new e-mail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bino Posted August 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2012 What happens if we DON'T change anything? Does this mean we can enjoy a spam-free ThaiVisa? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I believe the reasoning is thus, Yahoo don't like bulk email (the newsletters and email notifications) we send out. Thaivisa ends up on spammers block lists. Obviously this is something TV wishes to avoid. So you inconvenience a vast majority of members because you cannot talk to Yahoo. Unbelievable sent from my Wellcom A90+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Last year I tried to sign up for Bangkok Bank Internet banking, on the signup form you enter an email address. It could ONLY be @yahoo.com or @hotmail.com I was staggered to say the least. I asked why. The reply "Because it's only a real email address if it ends in @yahoo.com or hotmail.com" said the senior girl behind the desk. Totally unbelieivable, but totally true. Given the rubbish she must receive from @bbl.co.th email addresses I can understand why she would not regard that as a real email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire and ice Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 With my own business I had an intermittent issue sending emails to some yahoo addresses, I did a pile of research on it to find it was an issue with qmail (within Plesk BTW). After wasting aeons trying to find a way to fix it I found I was able to easily switch my mail program (within Plesk) to use postfix instead. Ever since that switch I have not had any issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy1960 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) No, it isn't. We are watching the demise of Hotmail and Yahoo email. Wow - I think I've had my yahoo.co.uk email account since I started using the internet eons ago - I'd hate to lose it Is it because of the amount of spam that is re-directed from Yahoo accounts ? You don't have to "lose it". You just need a different one for Thaivisa. It isn’t not only for that. Many people have big problems with Yahoo. I have 2 accounts and there are block. I am from Belgium and I have to phone the US for unblocking. Hotmail will change soon to Outlook. Edited August 13, 2012 by metisdead : Font reset. Please use Arial size 14 when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagaa Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Well, I suppose I won't be a Thaivisa user any longer. I only come to the forum when I get the e-mail notification of news articles. I never just go to Thaivisa any longer as I did when I first came here 5 years ago. I have alternative e-mail address's, but they happen to be hotmail, so I guess they've done themselves in. When I read the recommendation to get a g-mail address, the first thing that popped into my mind was "I wonder how much Google is paying them to get rid of Yahoo add'ys?" I don't use Google for anything since they threw the Chinese dissidents under the bus a few years back. Plus, they are in just a bit to close with the US gummit. Way to much co-operation with the NSA. Sorry Thaivisa...you've lost me. Edited August 13, 2012 by Tagaa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I believe the reasoning is thus, Yahoo don't like bulk email (the newsletters and email notifications) we send out. Thaivisa ends up on spammers block lists. Obviously this is something TV wishes to avoid. So you inconvenience a vast majority of members because you cannot talk to Yahoo. Unbelievable Oi! Don't shoot the messenger I'm sure George has his reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthemoon Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I believe the reasoning is thus, Yahoo don't like bulk email (the newsletters and email notifications) we send out. Thaivisa ends up on spammers block lists. Obviously this is something TV wishes to avoid. Yahoo are a funny bunch. I receive spam mails from Yahoo accounts, and when I report to [email protected] I get an auto-reply saying that I should report to a website... and it get's complicated. So, they encourage spammers, because it is difficult to report them, and then they block non-spamming organisations like thaivisa.com... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I wont be changing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunMatt Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 So whatabout the new @outlook.com addresses? Is this allowed instead of Hotmail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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