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I'm basically with you,I find MOST of the Muslims in Ao-Nang to be very tolerant, no Bin Ladens here for sure. However on two points as I raised in post No20

The problem with the tuk tuk drivers,many ex-pats think that these drivers are all Muslim, can you confirm if this is so or not,

Secondly as per my post 20, why have Some of the mosques increased the volume of the call to prayer?

I cannot agree with your comments regarding the Thais from up north,as I've already

Said, I think Most of the buddhist,from where ever they come from in Thailand are good people, just the same as Most Muslims.

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MANINSURAT

I'm basically with you,I find MOST of the Muslims in Ao-Nang to be very tolerant, no Bin Ladens here for sure. However on two points as I raised in post No20

The problem with the tuk tuk drivers,many ex-pats think that these drivers are all Muslim, can you confirm if this is so or not,

Secondly as per my post 20, why have Some of the mosques increased the volume of the call to prayer?

I cannot agree with your comments regarding the Thais from up north,as I've already

Said, I think Most of the buddhist,from where ever they come from in Thailand are good people, just the same as Most Muslims.

Thanks for the level-headed questions.

Simply the increase in noise for the mosques is due to the increase in ambient noise in the area in general. Mostly owing to traffic and construction. Which is mostly as a result of more tourists being here. So they need to get louder to be heard over the noise we generate.

This is what made me quite irate before, as you can see.

Also that more Muslims from the hinterlands (if you want to call them that) are coming into the Ao Nang area in greater number and basically the message needs to be spread louder and be heard more clearly as there's more Muslims and they're more spread out.

That makes perfect sense to me.

I think it's lovely. It tells me what time it is, never disturbs me in the morning and I used to live in Moo Baan Cholada, which is very very close to the mosque under construction on the main drag. It does not have to disturb you even if you live right adjacent to it.

It upsets you or disturbs you if you want to have a problem with it.

The tuk-tuk drivers are not all Muslim, although lots do work in that profession. It appears to me that the real three wheelers are where you find the most of the Muslims, with their sound systems blaring out.

The Buddhist tuk tuk drivers drive the red (not all are red) 4 wheelers and mini electric cars.

Obviously that's not absolute and you find both religions driving both types.

Personally I think the whole tuk-tuk driving community is getting more aggressive and over-priced and personally I haven't taken a paid-for ride in one for over 4 years.

This isn't a problem specific to Krabi as we all know. If anyone in any job thinks they can get a few baht more, they're going to try and they'll fight tooth and nail with their competition for this money. Which tends to make the whole community aggressive as a whole. Basically they need to be. There does become a point where it gets too much.

I'd like to see them gone personally. As a sidenote on this motorcycle taxi drivers are predominantly Buddhist and there seems to be much less of a culture of aggression and over-pricing.

I'll maintain that my viewpoint on Northern Thais is just from personal experience and not a reflection of how other people experience Northern Thais.

It was more some books I've read recently, about how modern Thais are not practising what Theravada Buddhism teaches and things like having monks round to bless a house and merit-making (as it is practiced today) having nothing to do with Thai Buddhism and are imported.

People like to wax lyrical about being a proper Thai Buddhist (not you!) when they have no idea about what Theravada Buddhism actually is and how it shoud fit into Thai society.

They way I see it, Thailand is losing its links to Theravada Buddhism at an increasing rate and what you see is really only lip-service and faux merit making to not lose face.

These are just my views from my experiences here.

Please feel free to correct me or put forward alternatve views if you have them. I will not stand for bigotry though, which I think I've already made quite clear!

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MANINSURAT

I'm basically with you,I find MOST of the Muslims in Ao-Nang to be very tolerant, no Bin Ladens here for sure. However on two points as I raised in post No20

The problem with the tuk tuk drivers,many ex-pats think that these drivers are all Muslim, can you confirm if this is so or not,

Secondly as per my post 20, why have Some of the mosques increased the volume of the call to prayer?

I cannot agree with your comments regarding the Thais from up north,as I've already

Said, I think Most of the buddhist,from where ever they come from in Thailand are good people, just the same as Most Muslims.

Thanks for the level-headed questions.

Simply the increase in noise for the mosques is due to the increase in ambient noise in the area in general. Mostly owing to traffic and construction. Which is mostly as a result of more tourists being here. So they need to get louder to be heard over the noise we generate.

This is what made me quite irate before, as you can see.

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Also that more Muslims from the hinterlands (if you want to call them that) are coming into the Ao Nang area in greater number and basically the message needs to be spread louder and be heard more clearly as there's more Muslims and they're more spread out.

That makes perfect sense to me.

I think it's lovely. It tells me what time it is, never disturbs me in the morning and I used to live in Moo Baan Cholada, which is very very close to the mosque under construction on the main drag. It does not have to disturb you even if you live right adjacent to it.

It upsets you or disturbs you if you want to have a problem with it.

The tuk-tuk drivers are not all Muslim, although lots do work in that profession. It appears to me that the real three wheelers are where you find the most of the Muslims, with their sound systems blaring out.

The Buddhist tuk tuk drivers drive the red (not all are red) 4 wheelers and mini electric cars.

Obviously that's not absolute and you find both religions driving both types.

Personally I think the whole tuk-tuk driving community is getting more aggressive and over-priced and personally I haven't taken a paid-for ride in one for over 4 years.

This isn't a problem specific to Krabi as we all know. If anyone in any job thinks they can get a few baht more, they're going to try and they'll fight tooth and nail with their competition for this money. Which tends to make the whole community aggressive as a whole. Basically they need to be. There does become a point where it gets too much.

I'd like to see them gone personally. As a sidenote on this motorcycle taxi drivers are predominantly Buddhist and there seems to be much less of a culture of aggression and over-pricing.

I'll maintain that my viewpoint on Northern Thais is just from personal experience and not a reflection of how other people experience Northern Thais.

It was more some books I've read recently, about how modern Thais are not practising what Theravada Buddhism teaches and things like having monks round to bless a house and merit-making (as it is practiced today) having nothing to do with Thai Buddhism and are imported.

People like to wax lyrical about being a proper Thai Buddhist (,not you!) when they have no idea about what Theravada Buddhism actually is and how it shoud fit into Thai society.

They way I see it, Thailand is losing its links to Theravada Buddhism at an increasing rate and what you see is really only lip-service and faux merit making to not lose face.

These are just my views from my experiences here.

Please feel free to correct me or put forward alternatve views if you have them. I will not stand for bigotry though, which I think I've already made quite clear!

Thanks for the information on the taxi drivers, which from my own experience I agree with you.

I think you are probably correct in most of what you say regarding how modern day Thais practice Theravada Buddhism, however I still think the majority of the Buddhist in Ao-nang

Are nice people, the same as the majority of the Muslims.

Re your points on the increase of noise from the mosques, you say this is because of

1/ The increase in ambient noise in the area in general, mostly due to traffic and construction,

The result of more tourist coming to Ao-Nang.

What about the call to prayer at 5 in the morning, are you saying this is the reason for the increase in sound at 5 in the morning?

2/you say there are now more Muslims, and they are more spread out in the area.

This I do not agree with, as there has always been other Mosques covering the area,not as large as the new one in the centre of Ao-Nang, just smaller ones dotted around the area,enough

And loud enough for the Muslims to hear, and as I've said before, the power of the voice was sufficient, then it was upped with the loud speakers, and now the volume seems to have been further increased.

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I'm basically with you,I find MOST of the Muslims in Ao-Nang to be very tolerant, no Bin Ladens here for sure. However on two points as I raised in post No20

The problem with the tuk tuk drivers,many ex-pats think that these drivers are all Muslim, can you confirm if this is so or not,

Secondly as per my post 20, why have Some of the mosques increased the volume of the call to prayer?

I cannot agree with your comments regarding the Thais from up north,as I've already

Said, I think Most of the buddhist,from where ever they come from in Thailand are good people, just the same as Most Muslims.

Thanks for the level-headed questions.

Simply the increase in noise for the mosques is due to the increase in ambient noise in the area in general. Mostly owing to traffic and construction. Which is mostly as a result of more tourists being here. So they need to get louder to be heard over the noise we generate.

This is what made me quite irate before, as you can see.

Uruguay

Also that more Muslims from the hinterlands (if you want to call them that) are coming into the Ao Nang area in greater number and basically the message needs to be spread louder and be heard more clearly as there's more Muslims and they're more spread out.

That makes perfect sense to me.

I think it's lovely. It tells me what time it is, never disturbs me in the morning and I used to live in Moo Baan Cholada, which is very very close to the mosque under construction on the main drag. It does not have to disturb you even if you live right adjacent to it.

It upsets you or disturbs you if you want to have a problem with it.

The tuk-tuk drivers are not all Muslim, although lots do work in that profession. It appears to me that the real three wheelers are where you find the most of the Muslims, with their sound systems blaring out.

The Buddhist tuk tuk drivers drive the red (not all are red) 4 wheelers and mini electric cars.

Obviously that's not absolute and you find both religions driving both types.

Personally I think the whole tuk-tuk driving community is getting more aggressive and over-priced and personally I haven't taken a paid-for ride in one for over 4 years.

This isn't a problem specific to Krabi as we all know. If anyone in any job thinks they can get a few baht more, they're going to try and they'll fight tooth and nail with their competition for this money. Which tends to make the whole community aggressive as a whole. Basically they need to be. There does become a point where it gets too much.

I'd like to see them gone personally. As a sidenote on this motorcycle taxi drivers are predominantly Buddhist and there seems to be much less of a culture of aggression and over-pricing.

I'll maintain that my viewpoint on Northern Thais is just from personal experience and not a reflection of how other people experience Northern Thais.

It was more some books I've read recently, about how modern Thais are not practising what Theravada Buddhism teaches and things like having monks round to bless a house and merit-making (as it is practiced today) having nothing to do with Thai Buddhism and are imported.

People like to wax lyrical about being a proper Thai Buddhist (,not you!) when they have no idea about what Theravada Buddhism actually is and how it shoud fit into Thai society.

They way I see it, Thailand is losing its links to Theravada Buddhism at an increasing rate and what you see is really only lip-service and faux merit making to not lose face.

These are just my views from my experiences here.

Please feel free to correct me or put forward alternatve views if you have them. I will not stand for bigotry though, which I think I've already made quite clear!

Thanks for the information on the taxi drivers, which from my own experience I agree with you.

I think you are probably correct in most of what you say regarding how modern day Thais practice Theravada Buddhism, however I still think the majority of the Buddhist in Ao-nang

Are nice people, the same as the majority of the Muslims.

Re your points on the increase of noise from the mosques, you say this is because of

1/ The increase in ambient noise in the area in general, mostly due to traffic and construction,

The result of more tourist coming to Ao-Nang.

What about the call to prayer at 5 in the morning, are you saying this is the reason for the increase in sound at 5 in the morning?

2/you say there are now more Muslims, and they are more spread out in the area.

This I do not agree with, as there has always been other Mosques covering the area,not as large as the new one in the centre of Ao-Nang, just smaller ones dotted around the area,enough

And loud enough for the Muslims to hear, and as I've said before, the power of the voice was sufficient, then it was upped with the loud speakers, and now the volume seems to have been further increased.

I don't think they have different sound levels. It's just set at one level for all adhans, regardless of time.

I asked and these were the reasons I given and so I understand it to mean that there's more Muslims between all the mosques.

The closest masjid to Ban Ao Nang is in Khlong Haeng which is pretty far away. So there's those 2 mosques to cover the whole of the Ao Nang central area.

There's the masjid in Ao Nammao outside of that which is right by Shell Fossil Beach, very far away. So if you're between those two and that is a large residential area, you're going to have a time hearing it.

That's close to where I live and I can tell you there's lots of Muslims in the area.

Outside of that there's one on the way to Khlong Muang at Ban Na Tin. There's a couple at Khlong Muang and a madrasah halfway there and one near the turning for Tub Kaek.

Heading towards Krabi town you only have the one under construction in Sai Thai.

Lots and lots of people inbetween many kms from the sound.

It's a larger area they need to cover than you think, if you look at it on a map. All the kms inbetween are filling up with more and more people coming into the area from rural areas and further south.

Anyway, I'm just passing on what was said to me.

I think you'd have to be hard pressed to find it disturbing. I think it's a strange thing to criticize the Ao Nang area for.

When you think about the massive impact tourists have had on the area and mostly in negative ways, I think for us to have a complaint about them practising their religion, even if it does appear loud to some, is something we should tolerate.

They are incredibly tolerant of us. Money or no money. We should even slightly try to return the favour.

To not do that is very disrespectful and ignorant to those that try to make us feel comfortable in their country, for the most part.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Oh this is Thailand, be more like a Buddhist, they practise their religion so peacefully then turning to the Muslims and telling them to shut up.

They've been an integrated part of society in this area for hundreds of years. Malaysia's right next door and is 95% Islamic. It's hardly surprising they're going to have migrated up many centuries ago. That's what traders and sea gypsies did.

It's the ignorance of history and bothering to understand why the Muslims are here and what their cultural backgrounds are like.

It's more their right to send the adhan out, as loudly as they want, 5 times a day, then it will ever be our right to tell them to stop.

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I don't think they have different sound levels. It's just set at one level for all adhans, regardless of time.

I asked and these were the reasons I given and so I understand it to mean that there's more Muslims between all the mosques.

The closest masjid to Ban Ao Nang is in Khlong Haeng which is pretty far away. So there's those 2 mosques to cover the whole of the Ao Nang central area.

There's the masjid in Ao Nammao outside of that which is right by Shell Fossil Beach, very far away. So if you're between those two and that is a large residential area, you're going to have a time hearing it.

That's close to where I live and I can tell you there's lots of Muslims in the area.

Outside of that there's one on the way to Khlong Muang at Ban Na Tin. There's a couple at Khlong Muang and a madrasah halfway there and one near the turning for Tub Kaek.

Heading towards Krabi town you only have the one under construction in Sai Thai.

Lots and lots of people inbetween many kms from the sound.

It's a larger area they need to cover than you think, if you look at it on a map. All the kms inbetween are filling up with more and more people coming into the area from rural areas and further south.

Anyway, I'm just passing on what was said to me.

I think you'd have to be hard pressed to find it disturbing. I think it's a strange thing to criticize the Ao Nang area for.

When you think about the massive impact tourists have had on the area and mostly in negative ways, I think for us to have a complaint about them practising their religion, even if it does appear loud to some, is something we should tolerate.

They are incredibly tolerant of us. Money or no money. We should even slightly try to return the favour.

To not do that is very disrespectful and ignorant to those that try to make us feel comfortable in their country, for the most part.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Oh this is Thailand, be more like a Buddhist, they practise their religion so peacefully then turning to the Muslims and telling them to shut up.

They've been an integrated part of society in this area for hundreds of years. Malaysia's right next door and is 95% Islamic. It's hardly surprising they're going to have migrated up many centuries ago. That's what traders and sea gypsies did.

It's the ignorance of history and bothering to understand why the Muslims are here and what their cultural backgrounds are like.

It's more their right to send the adhan out, as loudly as they want, 5 times a day, then it will ever be our right to tell them to stop.[/quote

There's quite few in the area between aonammoa roundabout And the petrol station, plus maybe other smaller ones, such as the one on the Na-Thai rd.

I don't accept that they all have the same sound levels.

I do agree that they have the right to broadcast the call to prayer, I just wish they'd make it a

Bit quieter in the morning, believe you me, I do need my beauty sleep.

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I don't think they have different sound levels. It's just set at one level for all adhans, regardless of time.

I asked and these were the reasons I given and so I understand it to mean that there's more Muslims between all the mosques.

The closest masjid to Ban Ao Nang is in Khlong Haeng which is pretty far away. So there's those 2 mosques to cover the whole of the Ao Nang central area.

There's the masjid in Ao Nammao outside of that which is right by Shell Fossil Beach, very far away. So if you're between those two and that is a large residential area, you're going to have a time hearing it.

That's close to where I live and I can tell you there's lots of Muslims in the area.

Outside of that there's one on the way to Khlong Muang at Ban Na Tin. There's a couple at Khlong Muang and a madrasah halfway there and one near the turning for Tub Kaek.

Heading towards Krabi town you only have the one under construction in Sai Thai.

Lots and lots of people inbetween many kms from the sound.

It's a larger area they need to cover than you think, if you look at it on a map. All the kms inbetween are filling up with more and more people coming into the area from rural areas and further south.

Anyway, I'm just passing on what was said to me.

I think you'd have to be hard pressed to find it disturbing. I think it's a strange thing to criticize the Ao Nang area for.

When you think about the massive impact tourists have had on the area and mostly in negative ways, I think for us to have a complaint about them practising their religion, even if it does appear loud to some, is something we should tolerate.

They are incredibly tolerant of us. Money or no money. We should even slightly try to return the favour.

To not do that is very disrespectful and ignorant to those that try to make us feel comfortable in their country, for the most part.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Oh this is Thailand, be more like a Buddhist, they practise their religion so peacefully then turning to the Muslims and telling them to shut up.

They've been an integrated part of society in this area for hundreds of years. Malaysia's right next door and is 95% Islamic. It's hardly surprising they're going to have migrated up many centuries ago. That's what traders and sea gypsies did.

It's the ignorance of history and bothering to understand why the Muslims are here and what their cultural backgrounds are like.

It's more their right to send the adhan out, as loudly as they want, 5 times a day, then it will ever be our right to tell them to stop.[/quote

There's quite few in the area between aonammoa roundabout And the petrol station, plus maybe other smaller ones, such as the one on the Na-Thai rd.

I don't accept that they all have the same sound levels.

I do agree that they have the right to broadcast the call to prayer, I just wish they'd make it a

Bit quieter in the morning, believe you me, I do need my beauty sleep.

My point is, they shouldn't need to care about your beauty! It sounds so silly that they have to be mindful of our needs when practising their religion.

It is not a freight-train or space rocket launch taking place. They're not making the call from within your room. Unless you're right right next to it, i.e. directly adjacent to it and I have lived within 500m of what people consider to be the loudest one. In the last 6 months.

It's a melodic adhan over a loud hailer or speaker.

A set of ear plugs are cheap and very effective if you get something that's comfortable and I've used them in all sorts of various situations.

That tiny alteration to your daily routine. Put plugs in, take plugs out is too much? No rather, we'll tell local business owners to warn their clientele of "disturbing mosque noise" in some form of effort to try and marginalize the Muslim community in the area, some people will even go as far as to suggest that the mosque shouldn't be built and tourists and potential business owners will read this.

If you are a permanent or semi-permanent resident and you've seen a mosque proposed, being built or already built right next to where you're looking to move and that kind of thing can bother you, wouldn't you think about that fact then?

They don't go up over night, signs go up often 10 years in advance. The Masjid Ban Ao Nang has been under construction for 7-8 years.

There's so much that we do that should come across as totally repugnant to how they lead their lives in the own country, yet they do not bat an eyelid and treat you with respect.

We're not extending the same respect back.

Anyway, I believe it's their right for them to practice their religion how they see fit. Calling out for several minutes at 5 am isn't something people should see as a con.

If you're going to complain about this, put in howling/barking dogs too. They kick up a fuss regularly in my area, but I'm not going around to the owners and suggesting they move them or not have them there in the first place. That'd just be stupid. It'd also be asking for trouble.

Ok this is getting very cyclic and I'm just repeating myself over and over.

You think it's annoying and I think I shouldn't be so disrespectful to people who have welcomed me into their home and their land. They're actually from this place or the surrounding area. Their families have been here for generations.

Ignoring the logistics of sound and geography and mosque frequency and location for a second, I just think it's a question of human decency.

Right, I think this has worn itself out now. I'm tired talking about it.

I can't stop people from seeing it as something that ruins the area. I can only try to help them see my point of view, even if I can be quite loud and sarcastic in getting my point across.

Just don't be too hard on the Muslims, they're very tolerant of you and given the media-maniuplated global view of Islam and the troubles with insurgency, I think that's something that should be really shouted about.

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Hmmmmm........................well anyway, thanks for waking up a sleepy forum guys.

OP was about Pro's and Con's of Ao Nang, we have sort of wandered into a religious discussion.

A couple things GOM likes to keep close to the vest, religion and politics, it's amazing how heated people can on these topics.

One thing I've realized from ManinSurat's posts is that of the time I have spent in Ao Nang and Krabi, I have not really seen it.

I would say that is a con for most visitors. Cheers to all, GOM

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Hmmmmm........................well anyway, thanks for waking up a sleepy forum guys.

OP was about Pro's and Con's of Ao Nang, we have sort of wandered into a religious discussion.

A couple things GOM likes to keep close to the vest, religion and politics, it's amazing how heated people can on these topics.

One thing I've realized from ManinSurat's posts is that of the time I have spent in Ao Nang and Krabi, I have not really seen it.

I would say that is a con for most visitors. Cheers to all, GOM

Very well said GOM.

Could not agree more.

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I don't want add fuel to the fire but, but i ve been woken up @ the at 5 am by a vigorous muessine, needless to say i ve spent my day in a very good mood ;)

Also, the longtails boat are too noisy and poluting, i remember a law which was voted a few years ago and demanded to equip boats with mufflers... with a fine and arrestation ifnot respected guess what?!

I ve never seen any muffers yet on those boats. TIT

Oh and a big PRO, is taking a cocktail with my wife at the Hill top restaurant while enjoying the sunset, that kind of place we needed in Aonang.

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@Maninsurat .. you state that you are married to a Muslim , does this not mean that you have to adopt her religious views ,which may help explain your "fervour " on these pages ?

I , for my part ,am married to a "Northern Thai " ...and , having lived in Northern Thailand , I can assure you that the people there are amongst the most decent , non-assuming in this Land . I both resent and reject your comments .

Local government and landowners are predominately Muslim and have chosen to develop and embrace Tourism and worship of the Baht ....

Tourists coming here have to accept the less advertised issues that are encountered here .

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I've a mind to go and have a chat with the local imam, at that very mosque (who I do know), this evening and see what he makes of your and your reviewers bigotry. Just a shame I don't know which business it is you have. You could expect a protest of some kind.

I have no idea how I landed here, but have been reading your massive and over the top rants.

As an atheist I wonder just how welcome you will be at the local mosque. Unlike buddhist wats, the mosques do not welcome those outside of the islamic belief. They are distinctly unfriendly.

But as you are married to an islamic woman, you would have to be converted into islam in order to be accepted into the family. Including the small but significant and irreversible operation. Claiming atheism will raise eyebrows in a buddhist family, but will not be accepted in an islamic family. You will also be expected to bring up your children in the islamic faith, you will have no choice. Educating them in atheism or any other religious belief will instantly result in alienation from your family and the local community.

It is interesting to note that you seem to be very extremist in your attitude pro-islam and anti-everything-else. This does call into question your claimed atheism.

As you claim to have links into the mosque, then maybe you could point out that everybody has a mobile phone, and perhaps they could issue the "call to prayer" via SMS. After all, the koran does not mention using PA systems at full blast.

Which I think is the only criticism that has been given above, with the exception of all your ranting criticisms against all manner of other people.

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I've a mind to go and have a chat with the local imam, at that very mosque (who I do know), this evening and see what he makes of your and your reviewers bigotry. Just a shame I don't know which business it is you have. You could expect a protest of some kind.

I have no idea how I landed here, but have been reading your massive and over the top rants.

As an atheist I wonder just how welcome you will be at the local mosque. Unlike buddhist wats, the mosques do not welcome those outside of the islamic belief. They are distinctly unfriendly.

But as you are married to an islamic woman, you would have to be converted into islam in order to be accepted into the family. Including the small but significant and irreversible operation. Claiming atheism will raise eyebrows in a buddhist family, but will not be accepted in an islamic family. You will also be expected to bring up your children in the islamic faith, you will have no choice. Educating them in atheism or any other religious belief will instantly result in alienation from your family and the local community.

It is interesting to note that you seem to be very extremist in your attitude pro-islam and anti-everything-else. This does call into question your claimed atheism.

As you claim to have links into the mosque, then maybe you could point out that everybody has a mobile phone, and perhaps they could issue the "call to prayer" via SMS. After all, the koran does not mention using PA systems at full blast.

Which I think is the only criticism that has been given above, with the exception of all your ranting criticisms against all manner of other people.

I am married to a Thai Muslim woman and did not have to have "a small but significant and irreversible operation". Yes took on a Muslim name out of respect to my wife's mothers wishes via the Imam. The family know I am not a Muslim by practice and there are no relationship difficulties whatsoever - I interact with family members nearly every day. I agree that some of ManInSurat posts were OTP. Don't agree with asking them to change their style of call to prayer communications.

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I've a mind to go and have a chat with the local imam, at that very mosque (who I do know), this evening and see what he makes of your and your reviewers bigotry. Just a shame I don't know which business it is you have. You could expect a protest of some kind.

I have no idea how I landed here, but have been reading your massive and over the top rants.

As an atheist I wonder just how welcome you will be at the local mosque. Unlike buddhist wats, the mosques do not welcome those outside of the islamic belief. They are distinctly unfriendly.

But as you are married to an islamic woman, you would have to be converted into islam in order to be accepted into the family. Including the small but significant and irreversible operation. Claiming atheism will raise eyebrows in a buddhist family, but will not be accepted in an islamic family. You will also be expected to bring up your children in the islamic faith, you will have no choice. Educating them in atheism or any other religious belief will instantly result in alienation from your family and the local community.

It is interesting to note that you seem to be very extremist in your attitude pro-islam and anti-everything-else. This does call into question your claimed atheism.

As you claim to have links into the mosque, then maybe you could point out that everybody has a mobile phone, and perhaps they could issue the "call to prayer" via SMS. After all, the koran does not mention using PA systems at full blast.

Which I think is the only criticism that has been given above, with the exception of all your ranting criticisms against all manner of other people.

I am married to a Thai Muslim woman and did not have to have "a small but significant and irreversible operation". Yes took on a Muslim name out of respect to my wife's mothers wishes via the Imam. The family know I am not a Muslim by practice and there are no relationship difficulties whatsoever - I interact with family members nearly every day. I agree that some of ManInSurat posts were OTP. Don't agree with asking them to change their style of call to prayer communications.

I'm happy for you that you were not required to have a irreversible operation.

I do know of a few Farangs who have married Thai Muslims and they seem to have as successful a marriage as those to a none Muslim. One point you did not reply to, did you have to agree that any children from the marriage would have to be brought up as Muslims?.

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Don't agree with asking them to change their style of call to prayer communications.

Well, maybe they don't have to use modern telecoms but in that case why do they feel the need to use high powered amplifiers to deliver the call to prayer?

Weren't around in the desert 1,500 years ago.

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Hi Mancub and 12DrinkMore,

the topic is "pro's and Con's of Ao Nang"

Not to play wannabe moderator, but can we get back to that?

If you or ManinSurat want to start a religious thread, knock yourselves out but don't hijack this thread.

That being said, I am also guilty here of posting regarding this religious stuff (sorry), but as the old saying goes "opinions and A***hles everyone has one".

When it comes to religion and politics, man, this saying tends to be spot on.

Now, Pro and Con-McDonalds Ao Nang, horrible food (con), pretty good coffee.........(Pro).

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