Jump to content
BANGKOK
Sign in to follow this  
MrRed

Champions League Group Stage Draw.

Recommended Posts

Ouch - Man City have to beat both the German and Dutch Champions to get out of the group stages. [i'm assuming Ajax won it last year in Holland].

Of course you could say Real have the toughest task cos they are not a national champion!

Man U and Arsenal got a good rub. Chelsea got a pretty tough group, except they got an obvious nil pointer in their group, which none of the rest of us have.

Enjoy the ride Celtic. I think you'll need a few brilliantly disguised glasgae kisses to squeak out of that group (Barca, Benfica, Moscow). I'd love a ticket for Celtic v Barca - if Barca think they've seen it all they've got another think coming.

Edit: Spot the deliberate mistake - forgot that Real actually beat Barca to La Liga title last year.

Edited by SantiSuk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any one watch the cringe inducing rigmarolle to select player of the year in European competition after the draw had taken place?. Dreadful. The 3 guys on stage looked about as comfortable as on a trip to the dentist. Iniesta the winner over Ronaldo and Messi FWIW.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Exactly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Exactly.

Nothing to do with us winning the prem league then, which consisted of 3 other english teams that were in pot 1 and one of which won the Champs League. We had the same amount of money last year and were in pot 3. Nobody can deny we have improved since last year and should therefore be seeded higher.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Exactly.

Nothing to do with us winning the prem league then, which consisted of 3 other english teams that were in pot 1 and one of which won the Champs League. We had the same amount of money last year and were in pot 3. Nobody can deny we have improved since last year and should therefore be seeded higher.

Its all about your European performances isn't it?

At least that's what I thought....whistling.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Exactly.

Its all about the 'old elite'!!

in my opinion, the Champions League should be seeded on a year to year basis, and not on form from several seasons ago.

But your connected teams like Bayern Munich will never let that happen.!!

City should have been seeded ahead of United and Arsenal. Dortmund should have been seeded ahead of Bayern.

Otherwise those teams who have been excellent performers in the past, have an unfair advantage in the present.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any one watch the cringe inducing rigmarolle to select player of the year in European competition after the draw had taken place?. Dreadful. The 3 guys on stage looked about as comfortable as on a trip to the dentist. Iniesta the winner over Ronaldo and Messi FWIW.

Afer Messi scoring a World Record 73 goals last season?!?

Looks like winning a national tournament is a prerequisite then.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why are Citeh in pot two?

Good question - they have a nothing record in the Champions League. I would have put them on a par with Celtic and Borussia Dortmund in Group 4.

Money talks I guesstongue.png

Exactly.

Its all about the 'old elite'!!

in my opinion, the Champions League should be seeded on a year to year basis, and not on form from several seasons ago.

But your connected teams like Bayern Munich will never let that happen.!!

City should have been seeded ahead of United and Arsenal. Dortmund should have been seeded ahead of Bayern.

Otherwise those teams who have been excellent performers in the past, have an unfair advantage in the present.

Your basis is just as flawed - takes you into impossible arguments about which are the strongest national leagues. On your basis you have to put all the national champions into one pot (Helsingborg on a par with Citeh) or decide on a national seeding coefficient. I suspect there is a bit of quiet national seeding going on which is why ypo come out high despite your inexperience.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Exactly.

Its all about the 'old elite'!!

in my opinion, the Champions League should be seeded on a year to year basis, and not on form from several seasons ago.

But your connected teams like Bayern Munich will never let that happen.!!

City should have been seeded ahead of United and Arsenal. Dortmund should have been seeded ahead of Bayern.

Otherwise those teams who have been excellent performers in the past, have an unfair advantage in the present.

Your basis is just as flawed - takes you into impossible arguments about which are the strongest national leagues. On your basis you have to put all the national champions into one pot (Helsingborg on a par with Citeh) or decide on a national seeding coefficient. I suspect there is a bit of quiet national seeding going on which is why ypo come out high despite your inexperience.

I think its common sense. Its generally accepted the 2 strongest leagues are English and Spanish, followed by Italian and German. How many 'Leagues ' are involved? I am not sure..... but I would imagine Dutch/ Portugese/ Russian Leagues are next. Then I guess any 1 from 4 or 5.

Then the runners ups of those leagues in the next pot, and so on.

That is the fairest way.

I am not saying this because I am a City fan, but they have just won the Premiership, probably the hardest League to win, and they get seeded behind teams that havent won their respective League for years!!!

The old elite want a closed shop!! Tossers like Rummenigge whining like a little b#tch when City start spending money, to enable them to get on the same level. So what do Bayern do, now they havent won the league for a couple of years????? Thats right, break the bank to buy the guy from Bilbao!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nothing to do with us winning the prem league then, which consisted of 3 other english teams that were in pot 1 and one of which won the Champs League. We had the same amount of money last year and were in pot 3. Nobody can deny we have improved since last year and should therefore be seeded higher.

Its all about your European performances isn't it?

At least that's what I thought....whistling.gif

Obviously not smokes, otherwise how did we rise up a pot off last years performance?

I agree with jack. This comp is called the Champions League, which is a competition for the champions and (also rans smile.png ) of the european leagues from last year, not 10 years ago. Therefore how can the likes of Arsenal be seeded above us? Maybe it should be left to the FA to submit their choice as to the English seedings. Just a thought.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In fact, the more I think about this current seeding system the more it stinks. All 4 teams in our group are current champions of their own leagues. How can that be right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In fact, the more I think about this current seeding system the more it stinks. All 4 teams in our group are current champions of their own leagues. How can that be right.

Its a disgrace!!

Dortmund have won the Bundesliga 2 yrs in a row, yet they are in pot 4!!!!

There is absolutely NO reason why the Champions of the 8 strongest Leagues are put as top seeds, then runners up in those Leagues etc.

This is purely seeding on past history and not current form!!!

So in other words, teams like City and Dortmund are penalised because they are newbies to the CL!! Because the powers that be donrt want any new members to their 'elite' club

Why bother seeding??

Just play it one v one without seeding.

But they wont do that in case Bayern meet Barcelona in the first round!!!

How can you justify seeding a team highly based on reputation and previous history???

The system is being manipulated by the clueless f#ckwits at the top.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Perhaps they thought that the fact that Arsenal have qualified for the CL for the last n years and have usually got to the final stages and you guys make one appearance in living memory and couldnt get out of the group with a squillion euro squad counted for something.

Im gutted for youtongue.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...