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There maybe some validity in what the OP is saying, lets face it Thailand has large numbers of foreign retiree's, hanger's on and wannbee's where as places like Singapore dont, the vast majority of expats in Singapore, HK etc are working there with reputable companies, therefore there would be a tendancy for there to be more undesirables in Thailand just based on numbers.

Based on my own observations of 10 years here and in comparision with other countries I have lived, worked in, Thailand does seem to have a lot more "damaged" , bitter, resentful, chip on their shoulder type expats floating around than I have seen on other places

You are obviously an expat who has experience of working in a number of regional locations. Your comments are well observed.

Many of my colleagues are based in HK, KL, Seoul, Tokyo, Sing, and Macao. The general consensus is that the man who has been transferred to BKK is the man who has drawn the short straw.

My contract is only for 6 months. After this, I'm back to Sing.

In my firm Manila is the shortest straw, most last 1 month and either quit or beg to come back to Tokyo/SIN/HK. The ones posted in BKK end up being in-house tour guides for the rest of the firm. You have to be very very careful suggesting things to do in BKK. I know one guy who ruined his career being posted in BKK and his big mouth.

That's interesting. What is it about Manila that's so bad? I've not been there, but I've heard terrible feedback.

I think I can understand the rest of your post. My wife and I have a Thai chauffeur. We are quite certain that he has been told where he can and can't take us. He won't take us to that market place PATPONG. We think it's because there are too many scams there.

From the moment you deplane in Manila you realise you pissed someone off hence the posting. Lack of decent food, pollution & crime are the main reasons my colleagues burn out. There is a very small working expat community and are usually rotated every 6 months. The Expats who live there tend to be from the US & live miles away from Manila for a good reason. I did my turn and almost kissed the ground arriving in Bangkok.

Edit - I want to add, having survived the experience I can easily handle most situations in Thailand. The experience in RP was like being in a war zone and now I look at most problems others complain about or I experience in Thailand is like two kids in a sandbox fighting.

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There maybe some validity in what the OP is saying, lets face it Thailand has large numbers of foreign retiree's, hanger's on and wannbee's where as places like Singapore dont, the vast majority of expats in Singapore, HK etc are working there with reputable companies, therefore there would be a tendancy for there to be more undesirables in Thailand just based on numbers.

Based on my own observations of 10 years here and in comparision with other countries I have lived, worked in, Thailand does seem to have a lot more "damaged" , bitter, resentful, chip on their shoulder type expats floating around than I have seen on other places

And of course all of these expats from singapore and hk will end up in Thailand like other strugglring scums

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We have seen the enemy and he is us.

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I have worked in Singapore several times, the money hasn't been as good as elsewhere but the accom is comparable.

Strangely enough, quite a few of the guys I worked with in Singas (Or South Korea, Russia, Azerbaijan etc etc) were married to Thai ladies and had their house in Thailand, just worked in Singapore. I wonder just how many of the upper class Singaporean expat the OP sees actually fall into the above catagory?

I have done my stints throught Asia and called Thailand home for 6 years. Now Batam is home for me (Even though I am not working there).

Now, Don't you think the Batam Expat is of a much higher class than the Thai expat? :P

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You are obviously an expat who has experience of working in a number of regional locations. Your comments are well observed.

Many of my colleagues are based in HK, KL, Seoul, Tokyo, Sing, and Macao. The general consensus is that the man who has been transferred to BKK is the man who has drawn the short straw.

My contract is only for 6 months. After this, I'm back to Sing.

In my firm Manila is the shortest straw, most last 1 month and either quit or beg to come back to Tokyo/SIN/HK. The ones posted in BKK end up being in-house tour guides for the rest of the firm. You have to be very very careful suggesting things to do in BKK. I know one guy who ruined his career being posted in BKK and his big mouth.

That's interesting. What is it about Manila that's so bad? I've not been there, but I've heard terrible feedback.

I think I can understand the rest of your post. My wife and I have a Thai chauffeur. We are quite certain that he has been told where he can and can't take us. He won't take us to that market place PATPONG. We think it's because there are too many scams there.

From the moment you deplane in Manila you realise you pissed someone off hence the posting. Lack of decent food, pollution & crime are the main reasons my colleagues burn out. There is a very small working expat community and are usually rotated every 6 months. The Expats who live there tend to be from the US & live miles away from Manila for a good reason. I did my turn and almost kissed the ground arriving in Bangkok.

Edit - I want to add, having survived the experience I can easily handle most situations in Thailand. The experience in RP was like being in a war zone and now I look at most problems others complain about or I experience in Thailand is like two kids in a sandbox fighting.

This really surprises me. I was sent there in 97 and absolutely loved it. Lived in Manila CBD and I was last there at the end of 2000 - has it changed that much?

Agreed the standard food is, to say the least, a tad disappointing.....

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The OP is either blessed with accute powers of observation or cursed with a severe case of judgementall prejudice.

On the basis of the evidence pesented by expats in Thailand it is impossible to discern if the OP has been blessed or cursed.

From what I've seen so far, the expat community here in BBK is very different to those in Sing and KL.

A quick look inside the pubs/bars dotted along Sukhumwit crystalizes this assertion.

The crem de la crem is of course in Pattaya a must see for all new expats. A short taxi ride.

The social misfits are hidden up in villages and in the hills up north. These are the type of folk one needs to be very wary off.

Oh really.

Do you know any of us at all?

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the majority are chang drinkers, sexual perversion inflictors, scumbag situation and rip off focusers, dragging around cans of lard sweaters...

And the rest are a thoroughly bad lotcheesy.gif

fantastic line! best TV post i have seen in a long time

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The OP is either blessed with accute powers of observation or cursed with a severe case of judgementall prejudice.

On the basis of the evidence pesented by expats in Thailand it is impossible to discern if the OP has been blessed or cursed.

From what I've seen so far, the expat community here in BBK is very different to those in Sing and KL.

A quick look inside the pubs/bars dotted along Sukhumwit crystalizes this assertion.

its true, we dont all have jamie oliver haircuts like sg.

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Do you know any of us at all?

Yes, a really scarey bunch... they make the cast of deliverance, look like upwardly mobile gentlemen

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Reasons: expats doings -- drugs; smuggling; online porn businesses; online gambling businesses; prostitution; and (sometimes) worse.

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This really surprises me. I was sent there in 97 and absolutely loved it. Lived in Manila CBD and I was last there at the end of 2000 - has it changed that much?

Agreed the standard food is, to say the least, a tad disappointing.....

Best time was during the Marcos's era....especially Mabini, rows of go-go bars....Chinaown Qiapo where pretty models paraded in the nude right in from of you..giggle.gif

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This really surprises me. I was sent there in 97 and absolutely loved it. Lived in Manila CBD and I was last there at the end of 2000 - has it changed that much?

Agreed the standard food is, to say the least, a tad disappointing.....

Best time was during the Marcos's era....especially Mabini, rows of go-go bars....Chinaown Qiapo where pretty models paraded in the nude right in from of you..giggle.gif

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Visited Manila once or twice a year between 1982 - 1985 - absolutely loved it.

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This really surprises me. I was sent there in 97 and absolutely loved it. Lived in Manila CBD and I was last there at the end of 2000 - has it changed that much?

Agreed the standard food is, to say the least, a tad disappointing.....

Best time was during the Marcos's era....especially Mabini, rows of go-go bars....Chinaown Qiapo where pretty models paraded in the nude right in from of you..giggle.gif

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Visited Manila once or twice a year between 1982 - 1985 - absolutely loved it.

best mate works in manila for 5 years now, still prefers TH.

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This really surprises me. I was sent there in 97 and absolutely loved it. Lived in Manila CBD and I was last there at the end of 2000 - has it changed that much?

Agreed the standard food is, to say the least, a tad disappointing.....

Best time was during the Marcos's era....especially Mabini, rows of go-go bars....Chinaown Qiapo where pretty models paraded in the nude right in from of you..giggle.gif

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Visited Manila once or twice a year between 1982 - 1985 - absolutely loved it.

best mate works in manila for 5 years now, still prefers TH.

Yes I can understand having a preference but it was the seeminly extreme aversion leading to only just being able to take 6 months of the Philippines that I was questioning - and I was there when kidnapping's were rife!

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Some of those "undesirables" in t-shirt and flip flops who work in "online gambling" (or porn) might make 50 times what you make, without having to worry about "ruining their career" by saying the wrong thing to their boss. Just saying.

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