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Case Closed On The Deaths Of Canadian Sisters Audrey And Noemi Belanger: Krabi


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Guys they are honoring the request of the family. There are a 99,999% change that it was not DEET that killed them and that the police action are aimed at protecting the image of the two sisters. They do it many times according a friend of mine in the tourist police. When a married guy dies of a heart attack while being with a prostitute they will never release the full details of the case. They will only say the guy died of an heart attack. This is part of Thai culture not to blemish the image of a dead person. The ultimate saving face.

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Guys they are honoring the request of the family. There are a 99,999% change that it was not DEET that killed them and that the police action are aimed at protecting the image of the two sisters. They do it many times according a friend of mine in the tourist police. When a married guy dies of a heart attack while being with a prostitute they will never release the full details of the case. They will only say the guy died of an heart attack. This is part of Thai culture not to blemish the image of a dead person. The ultimate saving face.

You're joking right? Just a few weeks ago a German married biz owner was robbed by some lady boys and they not only printed that he took them to a hotel for sex but also his name and a google maps location to his business.

edit: I just read again your post and see your comments are ONLY related to deceased. OK, I might buy that. Thais have very little respect for the living but the dead they honor with every last thb they can scrape up.

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Cause of death was determined and family requested no further action. What more do you want?

Why should it be entirely up to a Canadian family to decide there should be no further action in a case of justice in Thailand? Who is to say that whoever poisoned them hasn't poisoned others before, or won't harm others in the future? Find out how they were poisoned and why - that's what I want.

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so case closed.. police claiming they died from DEET ingestion from a cocktail called 4 x100 that normally doesn't contain DEET. Am I missing anything else here?

No need to investigate who put this deadly DEET in their drink? Since they drank it that means they are at fault? Amazing Thailand indeed.

I don't think you're missing anything.

Someone added a lethal quantity of poison to the cocktails and after they drank the drinks they died.

That sounds like a classic case of poisoning.

Now everyone including the family are covering it up for some reason. That's the strange part.

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Cause of death was determined and family requested no further action. What more do you want?

Why should it be entirely up to a Canadian family to decide there should be no further action in a case of justice in Thailand? Who is to say that whoever poisoned them hasn't poisoned others before, or won't harm others in the future? Find out how they were poisoned and why - that's what I want.

It was not stated that the Canadian family decided there should be no further action

“We have been asked by the Canadian Embassy and the [belanger] family to not reveal anything about the case. We are standing by that.

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Maybe my first post was not clear enough. There is a very good chance that the DEET was in something the sisters consumed. That something is illegal and the guy in the CCTV footage sold that something to the sisters. Thus the DEET killed the sisters but it was not in the cocktails it was in something else. If the police investigate the case further everyone will know what that something else was and then the image of the sisters will suffer damage.

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so case closed.. police claiming they died from DEET ingestion from a cocktail called 4 x100 that normally doesn't contain DEET. Am I missing anything else here?

No need to investigate who put this deadly DEET in their drink? Since they drank it that means they are at fault? Amazing Thailand indeed.

Yes....my heart cry and perhaps those who know these two human beings so well.... would like to see justice! Instead... all the paper work, a court case with peoples money and a conclusion - Case closed.... Thailand can smile again and await for the next batch of Farangs to fall prey. What are the police doing with this supposedly DEET in the drinks... seem common to Thai stomachs. Is then legal to market? Is this the reason why they have increased the TAX on foreign drinks, that they can force locally brewed drinks for foreigner to stomach this type of concoction? Thailand Amazing Thailand...TAT, Far from the real thing!!! Keep smiling! Keep pretending you have a system that can eradicate corruption.

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The one thing that bothers me somewhat in this is that Thai police normally don't give a dam_n about the wishes of victims' families or foreign embassies of insignificant nations like Canada - only China, Japan and the US count. They happily accept bribes from journalists to let them in to crime scenes to disturb evidence and take gruesome pictures which they splatter offensively over the media and they gaily stage re-enactments of crimes for their own amusement that must be heart rending for victims' family and are of no investigative value.

Can someone tell me how so many here on TV have so much knowledge about all the facets of of the BIB and any associates,Foreign issues regarding foreign governments, Police proticol, Regulation and evidence divolgence?

IGNORANCE AND GREED.... these words do not mean a thing to them, specially when it comes from a Farang... To the average Thai a Farang is ignorant because he does not abide to their pretense and smile game. Try talking sense to any person in higher position in the POLICE...they simply ignore you! Talk to those in Government office about offenses... they simply ignore...and mutter under breath. Everyone is supposed to go into a position of beg. Its being handed down through the education system. They never question they only accept with a smile.

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Not that I believe the claim the police are making for one second, but the fact that a family member, or anyone, can tell the police to not investigate a possible homicide shows the incredibly rudimentary level of policing and investigating that exists here. I knew it was bad, but not that bad.

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Someone was responsible for the death of these two girls yet the police have closed the case This can only happen in amazing Thailand anywhere else in the world the case would remain open for many years yet within 6 months this case has been closed and the person who did this evil deed is free to do it again Tourists should be aware very aware with what they are drinking in that area R.I.P to the sisters.

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The Wild Wild East.

You're on your own in Thailand, kids.

It's not only in Thailand, its in Europe the same. Police can handle only parking and speed tickets. That's all thay can and the easiest way to collect money, but as i said: This is absolutely not only in Thailand, this is everywhere the same. Once you have a problem, the police ist not interested in helping you, Even in my homecoutry, the same!

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Unbelievable..! Truly unbelievable...! I do not believe what they are saying at all..... ! <deleted> is going on here...??

“We have been asked by the Canadian Embassy and the [belanger] family to not reveal anything about the case

That's whats' going on

Of course. If someone, anyone asks the Thai Police not to continue their murder investigation or question vitnesses or suspects, the Thai Police obliges and closes the murder case!!! The Thai Police and the entire judicial system is lower than pathetic and worse than a joke.

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I hate to inject facts here when speculating is so much fun but consider this: The dose of DEET that is required to kill 50% of the rats treated is over 2 grams DEET per kilogram body weight of the rat (source: USEPA). Assuming that htese unfortunate women weighed 60 g, they would each have had to ingest 120 grams of DEET to have a 50% chance of dying from the exposure. This would be about 4 ounces of pure DEET. However, the most concentrated form sold commercially is 41% meaning that they would each have had to drink at least an 8 ounce tumbler of the straight product. I don't think it is possible for anyone to get drunk enough not to notice that they were drinking a glass of mosquito repellant.

So, as convenient as it is to blame all ills on chemicals, it does not seem plausible in this case and the the cause of justice is ill served by accepting this at face value.

You have obviously missed the fact that many rats die at much lower doses. So humans can also die taking less. 50% won't always die. That's just an average. Other things come into play, such as alcohol ingested, state of health, etc. Did you check for experiments where rats were given DEET and alcohol. You obviously don't understand how these tests work.

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Not that I believe the claim the police are making for one second, but the fact that a family member, or anyone, can tell the police to not investigate a possible homicide shows the incredibly rudimentary level of policing and investigating that exists here. I knew it was bad, but not that bad.

They didn't tell the police to not investigate! Read the article. They said "

“We have been asked by the Canadian Embassy and the [belanger] family to not reveal anything about the case. We are standing by that."

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I hate to inject facts here when speculating is so much fun but consider this: The dose of DEET that is required to kill 50% of the rats treated is over 2 grams DEET per kilogram body weight of the rat (source: USEPA). Assuming that htese unfortunate women weighed 60 g, they would each have had to ingest 120 grams of DEET to have a 50% chance of dying from the exposure. This would be about 4 ounces of pure DEET. However, the most concentrated form sold commercially is 41% meaning that they would each have had to drink at least an 8 ounce tumbler of the straight product. I don't think it is possible for anyone to get drunk enough not to notice that they were drinking a glass of mosquito repellant.

So, as convenient as it is to blame all ills on chemicals, it does not seem plausible in this case and the the cause of justice is ill served by accepting this at face value.

Actually, 100% DEET sprays can be purchased in the US, any sporting good store has them. I have a 1oz bottle, and I think they sell up to 6oz bottles. This does not invalidate your main point, though - just clearing up the facts.

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