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Where the Hell is that Shop, I,m Thinking of a Ute Run and perchance I could fill up with Rice, as my Local Shop sells it for considerably more. More like Tesco,s prices. At that price I guess the little Stones in the Rice are allowed for in the Weight, or else its a Diddle.

Me too. Come on where is this place you can buy rice for 7 baht per kilo. forget the Ute I could buy a big truck with a few days proceeds from this.

Also the beef - local prices here are between 200 and 220 baht per kilo. Guess I may need 2 trucks!!!

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Off topic a long time ago (who reads 136 comments?), including mine, must admit. Lets all take heart and start induvidual Threads like:

-The ultimate NGO's are: Farangs over the age of 65 with a wide open wallet and with young "wifeys". They have contributed more to the well-beeing of "poor Thais" than any number of NGO's,

Amen & cheers.

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Perhaps they could used home ownership levels, as the bench mark, as many western Governments do. That would no doubt make rural Issan richer than Australia.

Bulgaria has the highest proportion of home owners (97%) in the world, while Germany is very low on the scale (42%).

http://blogs.crikey....ries-wealthier/

some additional countries with higher home ownership rates than Australia (69%) i.e. Lithuania (96%), Mexico (83%), India (82%), Iran (81%) and Greece (80%). It also shows Switzerland, at 35%, has a lower proportion of owners than Germany (42%).

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Perhaps they could used home ownership levels, as the bench mark, as many western Governments do. That would no doubt make rural Issan richer than Australia.

Bulgaria has the highest proportion of home owners (97%) in the world, while Germany is very low on the scale (42%).

http://blogs.crikey....ries-wealthier/

some additional countries with higher home ownership rates than Australia (69%) i.e. Lithuania (96%), Mexico (83%), India (82%), Iran (81%) and Greece (80%). It also shows Switzerland, at 35%, has a lower proportion of owners than Germany (42%).

If you live in a Hovel in Issan or a Split level overlooking the Sydney Suburbs I suppose its still a Home and there is no place like home.

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A former partner of mine, before I came out to Thailand on more than just business trips, used to sponsor a village girl in what she described as being way out in the wilds of the north eastern area of Thailand. According to her (my partner) they were all desparately poor and ran around with minimal clothing and no shoes on their feet. 16 GBP a month would keep her out of the desparate clutches of the brothel-keepers. I recall she was devastated when the sponsored girl got married at 16, but she was glad that the girl would not be quote sold into prostitution (she was Calvanistically right on when it came to womens rights was my lady).

I haven't told her that the village I now live in could easily be the same as the home of the desparately poor and isolated village girl that she funded. I don't think she would appprove of my personal form of sponsorship somehow - marrying a lady 20 years your junior somehow doesn't gel with a western liberated (older) female, even if it does raise the living standard of a whole extended family.

Not trying to make any particular points here - just reflecting on the funny old world that we live intongue.png

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Back from my weekend away and think I will put my departing comments in, as this threat draws to a close.

As is often the case things digress from the OP as people comment on what was allegedly said 10 posts ago.

Don't believe I originally said I was against people helping and some may have read it that way. I said, sick of do gooders posting on web sites about the abject poverty of Issan. As for the shoe thing, I know that sarcasm goes over the heads of many, but it was sarcasm. To use the shoe wearing scale to judge the affluence of a population is like using the big Mac scale, how many minutes or hours to earn a burger. Perhaps they could used home ownership levels, as the bench mark, as many western Governments do. That would no doubt make rural Issan richer than Australia.

You can not judge people on shoes, burgers or home ownership.

Now unless my beer soaked brain has lost the ability to do basic money conversion, the amount that NGOs state they raised for Thailand, is over 2 billion US a year. Issan being the alleged poorest place in Thailand, one would think a fair proportion of it should be spent here in a given year. I asked is there anyone who can show what these NGOs have actually done here, where has this money gone and as of yet no one has written about one real project to aid the poor.

All I have seen in my 10 years is one hole dug for fish and a Sunday school, in which kids were bribed with ice cream and chocolate to attend and have photo's taken.

I will say this one more time, I see no starvation, no real hardship, happy farming people. I do see construction, new roads, new buildings going up everywhere. Jim

OK, as this thread comes to a close, Im starting a new one, call it a continuation of this. I agree with you, where the hells all the money gone?

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Jim, like so many more who have commented ... a great Thread.

Agree with him or not ... it does open the mind.

<snip>

If nothing else, some well-meaning, overly enthusiastic do-gooders can provide a bit of entertainment in areas with poor television reception.

Great line ... cheesy.gif

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If you're getting sick of dogooders then look up

Baan Gerda

The student charity thailand

plan international

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If you're getting sick of dogooders then look up

Baan Gerda

The student charity thailand

plan international

Baan Gerda Fantastic effort, I do hope the OP reads this. Doctor Cynthia also comes to mind, who would under the OP,s premise be Sarcastically dismissed as a Dogooder. Sarcasm the lowest form of wit. Tut Tut

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If you're getting sick of dogooders then look up

Baan Gerda

The student charity thailand

plan international

Baan Gerda Fantastic effort, I do hope the OP reads this. Doctor Cynthia also comes to mind, who would under the OP,s premise be Sarcastically dismissed as a Dogooder. Sarcasm the lowest form of wit. Tut Tut

I think the OP is more irritated by "talkgooders" instead of "dogooders".

All people who do really good things for anyone deserve respect, all the more so if they do it while preserving Thai culture and religion.

Unfortunately, often the reality is different: "talkgooders" overdramatise or even misrepresent many facts to use as a reason to collect funds under false pretenses. It gets worse when these "Talkgooders" use that money to start projects that mess with Thai culture or Buddhism, and when as an added disgrace supposed "dogooders" are instead committing evil deeds:

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If you're getting sick of dogooders then look up

Baan Gerda

The student charity thailand

plan international

Baan Gerda Fantastic effort, I do hope the OP reads this. Doctor Cynthia also comes to mind, who would under the OP,s premise be Sarcastically dismissed as a Dogooder. Sarcasm the lowest form of wit. Tut Tut

Mr Slime this is the ISSAN forum, not Outer Mongolia, Sub Sahara Africa or some other place. It's about Issan, not slums in BKK or Hill tribes. Jim

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Isaan, what a place. When I first meet my wife she said she came from outside Thailand, she is an Isaan girl. Bangkok or Chiang Mai it's another world.

Reality is the funds flow in, those that reach the project get spent and then it is over! That simple.

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