Canadian, Australian Found Dead In Bangkok Hotel Room

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Foreigners found dead in hotel room

BANGKOK – A Canadian and an Australian were found dead in a hotel room in Klong Toey district of Bangkok, police said.

Police found the bodies of Angus Eric Campbell, 27, and Casamel Stephen, 31, with several bottles of alcohol and a “white powder” thought to be a drug in their room.

They had been dead for 12-24 hours, police said.

Police believed that the two men had overdosed on the drug. Their bodies have been sent for autopsy to determine the cause of death.

Police have also sent the white substance to the lab to check what kind of drug it is.

Source: http://www.bangkokpo...d-in-hotel-room

-- Bangkok Post 2012-10-26

[theblether]

Why oh why would you want to do this to yourself?? 27 and 31 <deleted>.

Drugs are the scourge of our time.

[laurentbkk]

Poor guys , sorry for them but also stupid of them for using drugs (if they were really using). RIP.

[pete66]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Edited October 26, 2012 by pete66

[pedro01]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Maybe....

White powder in Thailand will either be:

- Cocaine

- Ketamine

- MDMA

- Heroin

Most likely it'll be cocaine. ODs are pretty rare.

With Heroin, that's a lot more likely to kill 2 users, esp if it's a lot stronger than they are used to.

[astanhope]

Something very similar happened in Chiang Mai perhaps ten years ago.

Two Australian men were found dead in a hotel room where they had been drinking all day - and apparently snorting heroin. The police determined that they overdosed on heroin potentiated by acute alcohol intoxication.

It always seemed like a weird way to accidentally die to me - and, indeed, I wonder how close to the truth this explanation was.

[pete66]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Maybe....

White powder in Thailand will either be:

- Cocaine

- Ketamine

- MDMA

- Heroin

Most likely it'll be cocaine. ODs are pretty rare.

With Heroin, that's a lot more likely to kill 2 users, esp if it's a lot stronger than they are used to.

There are a lot of other white powders around, but I agree with you. Mostly like Coke and ODs on Coke are very rare. Two ODs of fit young men is too unlikely to be considered a possibility ...

If it was heroin, that's a different matter. But as far as I know, people inject heroin or smoke it, not snort it. There's no mention of "drug paraphernelia" at the scene ....

If the "white powder" comes back as Coke, I wouldn't believe in 1000 years they both OD'd on it. I trust the police will be analyzing the powder as well. Be interesting to know if their "valuables" (passport, credit cards etc) were still in the room.

[chuckygobyebye]

This is really common, I had a friend die this way in Cambodia. These chaps thought they were buying cocaine but ended up with heroin. One can snort a great deal of cocaine and be no worse off than a shocking hangover and agonizing embarrassment but the same amount of heroin will kill.

[frankold]

My money would be on the white power being some sort of knockout drug that they thought was cocaine...

[malcy]

And the award for stating the obvious goes to ........ Pete66 either (a) they were sold poison or ( something else happened . 555 that's like saying ( a) they had an allergic reaction to camomile tea or ( something else happened .

[wade72]

coke in Thailand is unlikely to be anymore then 5 - 10% coke and cut with all manner of things then meth added to give it a kick.

My source we tested samples in the lab a few years ago.

pete66 - yes people snort heroin as well. However you are right generally it is injected or smoked but snorting it does get it into the bloodstream as well.

[Bramdaddy]

Who cares what the "real truth" was. Bottom line is that a couple of drunk holidayers were snorting drugs of some kind and they died. Play with fire and you're going to get burned.

[Lancelot]

Thats what I was thinking, maybe the "white powde" was relatively pure stuff and the amount proved fatal.

Really sad at such a young age...

[GFY]

Who cares what the "real truth" was. Bottom line is that a couple of drunk holidayers were snorting drugs of some kind and they died. Play with fire and you're going to get burned.

It could save someone else life.

[angsta]

Perhaps they thought they were getting Coke but were in fact getting high ish quality heroin. Happens all the time in Cambodia sadly.

[Jobiwankenobi]

Poor fellas, just trying to have a good time in Bangkok eh and look what happens. Terrible. Just terrible. Low quality Thai drugs are to blame, not the choices of these two individuals who were only trying to party

[canuckamuck]

The powder could have been baby powder too, I will wait for more info.

[tinfoilhat]

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As for the dead tourists, it is impossible to speculate as to what the powder was, though one would think coke would be fairly easy to identify.

lousy way to die

Edited October 26, 2012 by metisdead

[atlbravosfan]

Why oh why would you want to do this to yourself?? 27 and 31 &lt;deleted&gt;.

Drugs are the scourge of our time.

What a joke this statement is. Drug policy is the scourge of our time.

Alcohol is a drug. Tobacco is a drug. Medication from the pharmacy are drugs. Drugs are clearly not 'the scourge of our time.' It is the way we view drugs, the way we isolate some and discriminate against them, and mostly it is the way we view drug users / addicts - not as sick people who desperately need our help but as criminals who deserve to be punished for their crimes.

[hubahuba]

Whatever this white powder was Why speculate !. If the autopsy & forensic lab find something and give a true report then and only then can you pass judgment on these two unfortunate men. Let them RIP

[tinfoilhat]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Maybe....

White powder in Thailand will either be:

- Cocaine

- Ketamine

- MDMA

- Heroin

Most likely it'll be cocaine. ODs are pretty rare.

With Heroin, that's a lot more likely to kill 2 users, esp if it's a lot stronger than they are used to.

you are forgetting meth, and mdma powder is rarely white, it is usually biege. Both are generally crystalline though may have been ground and stepped on.

Also the newspaper does not report a rig or a pipe in the room. Snorting MDMA or Meth is quite painful. you would have to be seriously committed to hoover back enough to kill, if it is even possible.

Pretty hard to snort back enough ketamine to kill you though it would be easier on the nose

heroin sounds most likely, though i cant imagine there would be any profit in substituting, a contaminated product would be be best bet to kill both.

all in all the information given is very thin, Klong Toei could mean slum or Sukhumvit and the likelihood of heroin or poison increases if it means the actual Klong Toei slum area.

I find it hard to believe that communication could have them looking for coke or ice and ending up with heroin, the terminology is pretty standard across the two languages.

I doubt any real clarification will be forthcoming.

[EyesWideOpen]

Thailand's Sudden Death Hotel Syndrome strikes again..... :-( Given the Thai police department well known ability to insert evidence into crime scenes, I would pretty much ignore

the bottle of mysterious white powder. The autopsy should be far more revealing.

[sirchai]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Maybe....

White powder in Thailand will either be:

- Cocaine

- Ketamine

- MDMA

- Heroin

Most likely it'll be cocaine. ODs are pretty rare.

With Heroin, that's a lot more likely to kill 2 users, esp if it's a lot stronger than they are used to.

A very sad way to go. Whatever has happened to them and what ever the outcome will be- it won't bring them back to life. I feel sorry for their families and friends.

Speed is also white, but two people overdosing on speed is pretty much uncommon, not saying that the cause of their deaths was drug related.

Heroin from the north could be a possibility, as it's mostly much stronger than in any other countries. Also called # four.

Destroy all that can destroy you.------

[trainman34014]

Poor fellas, just trying to have a good time in Bangkok eh and look what happens. Terrible. Just terrible. Low quality Thai drugs are to blame, not the choices of these two individuals who were only trying to party

Hmmm...if people wish to 'party' and 'have a good time' in this way then they should know the possible consequences of buying drugs in a third world country. There are much better ways to party in Thailand without doing anything dangerous to themselves at all.

[Richard Hall]

And the very simple conclusion is... don't do drugs.

Case solved.

[jackspratt]

Two young men overdosing at the same time on a drug in powder form is highly highly unlikely. Either (a) they were sold poison, or ( b ) something else entirely happened.

What the police choose to "believe" in Thailand is rarely relevant.

Whew! For a while there I thought this investigation would be left in the hands of the BiB, but I see TVF's finest CSI/NCIS/Law & Order (et al) are on to it.

[Superman]

Thats what I was thinking, maybe the "white powde" was relatively pure stuff and the amount proved fatal.

Really sad at such a young age...

Which dealer would be selling pure stuff for the normal market prize? Sounds shooting your own foot......

[KRS1]

This is really common, I had a friend die this way in Cambodia. These chaps thought they were buying cocaine but ended up with heroin. One can snort a great deal of cocaine and be no worse off than a shocking hangover and agonizing embarrassment but the same amount of heroin will kill.

problem with coca in thailand is that its never a rock, always powder and stepped on without a doubt.

heroin is some horrible stuff and much stronger than the stuff in the west.

[Jim walker]

RIP and condolences to family and friends, we won’t jump to any conclusions over the cause of the young men’s sad deaths, only white powder stuff found in their room and no one knows what it is doesn’t mean a thing in Thailand anyone could have planted it in the room if they had been snorting / taking anything I am sure they would have finished it off and not left it lying around in the room. For people to find.

[alstaxi]

Who cares what the "real truth" was. Bottom line is that a couple of drunk holidayers were snorting drugs of some kind and they died. Play with fire and you're going to get burned.

What about the real truth is that they were not snorting anything......... who cares if they were poisoned, jump to whatever conclusion is handy, next moronic statement from someone with their head up there ass please.