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Pre-Screening To Be Launched This Year: Thai Immigration Bureau

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Yeah, good luck with all of these improvements.

I was trying to leave the country and was at passport control a few years back. The officer took my passport and was studying it more than usual. Then he asked me to come around to his side. I did. On his computer screen were 4 photos; three of them were mine from various visits. But the fourth one was of a medium-built, dark-skinned looking fellow. He asked me which one was me. Ha! Funny, considering I'm relatively short and definitely white.

Is it me or do most of these "improvements" seem just like common sense? Oh wait...don't answer that. I know where we are.wai.gif

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Getting a job in immigration here isn't so much skill related. One must have family connections or know someone in the Police or immigration. Even then Its an expensive job to buy into. Yes these jobs are sold sometimes for several million baht. Its not a case of going along and saying "I have perfect English and feel I would be good for the job" Oh no.

When Swampi opened I was living with Thai Police woman and paid for her entrance exams and courses. Before the 20,000+ applicants where going to get their results almost all of the 250 positions where filled behind closed doors. Many couldn't speak a word of English.

As with many aspects of Thai society and corporate hierarchy educated professional cannot get to the positions where they are needed. As a result complete incompetents end up in positions of authority.

These jobs are handed down through the old boys network.

Well I agree who you know will go along way. But 2,000,000 baht to become a immigration officer and sit in a little cubicle. I think not. Perhaps once in the food chain the price for a promotion will arise but I seriously doubt that is the price. I am relatively sure the upper echelon when they opened swampy was all ready in the system.

Yes you are quite right and I stand corrected. 2m baht would be for jobs at least half way up the pyramid and not new recruits. I should have made that clear.

The buy-in for these jobs is often a Merc Benz.

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Personally I prefer they only speak Thai

I cannot speak one word of Thai

It means they ask no questions

They take passport, stamp it and I am off

Can only imagine the delays of they try to

ask questions in a foreign language

"pardon, what, pardon, again please ... slowly"

No thanks

You cannot speak "one word of Thai" WOW, hope you are only a short stay visitor. Ever heard of RESPECT ?

Respect for the Thais and their country? An extremely refreshing and novel concept for this forum! thumbsup.gif

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I think a lot of the posters above are confusing the first half of the OP article with the second half...

The first half is talking about IMMIGRATION police developing pre-screening for incoming passengers... not English language skills for their officers.

The second half of the article is talking about the Metropolitan Police Division 4 in BKK (the regular flatfoot cops) trying to get high techy and having their officers learn foreign language skills. The latter aren't the guys manning the Immigration checkpoints.

Two totally different initiatives crammed together in the same article, with the common threads being police and some vague association with AEC.

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Teaching anyone Laos or Cambodian? How many 'visitors' do we get from there?

About 2 million tourists per annum according to the latest stats.

Very important to be able to converse with the neighbours properly, especially as they outnumber Aussies, Brits and other native English speaking nations as visitors.

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From 2015 onward Thailand will become the leper colony of S.E. Asia - everyone will bypass the country and visit the others. This country is heading one way only and that is further down. The English language is not going to curb the arrogance, it's just going to make it worse. Respect is a two way street and something to be earned not demanded.

Airport is open! No reason to wait until 2015, you are free to leave NOW ! Bye, bye wai2.gif

Ditto! @ozall- YOU spoke of respect?cheesy.gif You need to apply the "two way street" axiom on respect to yourself.

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Is this somehow not the problem in Thailand? That many people think respect must be 'earned'? Respect should be given automatically and then given some more if it is reciprocated. If it is not reciprocated, it is no longer necessary to be respectful. Believing respect need be earned is the root of the problem... just ask many teachers about students' attitudes regarding respect. Hint: they are very much in-line with your way of thinking (the bolded part at least).

I prefer just to remain respectful anyway as that is the way to live life in a peaceful and joyful manner. It doesn't matter how others treat me, that is their path. The way I treat them, that is my path.

I came in through Thai Immigration at the airport last week, and the way this one Immigration officer was talking to people was downright rude. He wanted to close his booth and escorted half a dozen tourists through to close his lane. He was barking at them like they were animals. I expect this from Thai immigration officers but I wonder how first timers would feel.

He gets no respect from me. I think he was one of the more senior officers by the way he was talking to some others.

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I would think English would always be a priority. Just about every nation (apart from Thailand), irrespective of mother tongue, speaks English. China is fast learning English as well. Teaching anyone Laos or Cambodian? How many 'visitors' do we get from there? Mandarin and English I think would be a good start with emphasis on English. Japanese is way down the list at 3rd place as being essential.

I like the part where it says 'look smart', because this is all thats going to happen.

Just wondered...... Thais speaking English, was there some sort of gap/problem 30 - 40 years ago ?

Been here 9 years, always appears to be the same, many older Thais speak good English, and most young ones, just appears that far fewer Thais between 35 - 50 can speak or understand any English.. I do not mean Professionals I am talking about the every day Village Thais..

Always amazed me going to the different Village markets over the years the amount of older market traders that speak to me in English, even when I try to practice a bit of Thai, they will reply in English

I agree - English & Mandarin should be on the list - Lao is just another dialect of the Tai Mother tongue spoken throughout Southern Asia. On visits to Laos, I have no trouble understanding and conversing in my broken Thai.

Very many Thais can read English but have no understanding of pronunciation, but they were taught by people in the same boat...

40+ years ago, this area was flooded with English Speaking foreigners, living here, most with girlfriends. They were in the economy so thickly, that a great many Thais learned English.

Of course, I am referring to the US Military and allies who were stationed here, along with the many fellows on R&R from Vietnam. Estimates of that population range from 500,000 to 2 million...

A casual observer can see the effect on the Thai Gene pool... 40 years ago, a 'white skinned' Thai was a rarity - even on TV or in movies...

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I came in through Thai Immigration at the airport last week, and the way this one Immigration officer was talking to people was downright rude. He wanted to close his booth and escorted half a dozen tourists through to close his lane. He was barking at them like they were animals. I expect this from Thai immigration officers but I wonder how first timers would feel.

He gets no respect from me. I think he was one of the more senior officers by the way he was talking to some others.

I have witnessed similar behaviour before on a number of occasions, several times at Suvarnabhumi.

As they are a branch of the Thai Police it's what we should expect from them.

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I am concerned by the looming Asean !!! Are we looking at a southeast Asia type of EU ? That should be avoided at all costs !!!

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Very good, presently done in the western world, prescreening. Nice that the officers will learn a second and or third language also. Congratulations Thailand, moving to be a first world, first class country.

There are a lot of good things about Thailand, that's why I live here, but moving to be a first world, first class country????? not in any of our lifetimes. Is there anyone who really believes different?Apart from the poster that is.

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"Look smart." This sums it up - the big picture in Thailand. "Look smart."

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Is this somehow not the problem in Thailand? That many people think respect must be 'earned'? Respect should be given automatically and then given some more if it is reciprocated. If it is not reciprocated, it is no longer necessary to be respectful. Believing respect need be earned is the root of the problem... just ask many teachers about students' attitudes regarding respect. Hint: they are very much in-line with your way of thinking (the bolded part at least).

I prefer just to remain respectful anyway as that is the way to live life in a peaceful and joyful manner. It doesn't matter how others treat me, that is their path. The way I treat them, that is my path.

I came in through Thai Immigration at the airport last week, and the way this one Immigration officer was talking to people was downright rude. He wanted to close his booth and escorted half a dozen tourists through to close his lane. He was barking at them like they were animals. I expect this from Thai immigration officers but I wonder how first timers would feel.

He gets no respect from me. I think he was one of the more senior officers by the way he was talking to some others.

This is a very good post, I always said respect has to be earned, but I know now that this is not the case. If the respect you give is not returned,then you do not give the respect back.
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I would think English would always be a priority. Just about every nation (apart from Thailand), irrespective of mother tongue, speaks English. China is fast learning English as well. Teaching anyone Laos or Cambodian? How many 'visitors' do we get from there? Mandarin and English I think would be a good start with emphasis on English. Japanese is way down the list at 3rd place as being essential.

I think on huge immigrations like on the airport you should have all speak English and always 1 person on duty that speaks:

French

Italian

Russian

Spanish

Mandarin

Japanese

+ maybe a few more

Cambodian: automatically yes, just have one staff from the border region

Lao: no problem....the languages are so similar that they can understand....

You won't get this selection of languages at many international airports. English is the international language of business,education, science and travel - airline pilots and traffic controllers use English. Mandarin and Spanish are useful because of the large number of people that speak them. The others - forget it, they are not international languages.

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