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"The attempt to remove my military rank is improper and politically motivated. The allegations against me do not involve my actions - they concern invalid documents."

This is so typical of a Thai, (or anyone for that matter) for not taking responsibility for their actions. Loser once for faking the documents. Loser twice for blaming it on the state agency that forged them. Loser!

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Abhisit's story is rather unconvincing and he most likely did get fake conscription papers, along with Chalerm's two eldest sons, who were cashiered from the police for this and many others.

The Defence Ministry seems to be acting improperly because Abhisit was exonerated by military investigation and the case should have ended there. It is not clear that new evidence has been presented but anyway they probably did the right thing for the wrong reason.

As Abhisit says, if he is guilty, the conscription officers who accepted his bribes are also guilty and should be tried.

Thaksin should have been relieved of his police rank and royal decorations on his conviction. Later on Abhisit had the chance to do this but was too scared of a red shirt backlash. I bet he is now wishing he had done it anyway.

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Newcastle Gateshead will be in mourning tonight for the poor Newcastle lad stripped of his military rank, but when Abhisit comes back home they will have a party to remember.

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http://www.nationmul...RIEF-50425.html

CONSCRIPTION: Chavalit defends Chalerm

Defence Minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh yesterday alleged that there had been concerted efforts to discredit New Aspiration Party deputy leader

Chalerm Yoobamrung

by falsely accusing Chalerm's two sons of evading conscription. "The local press should examine whether Chalerm's sons are draft-dodgers as has been alleged," Chavalit said. Chalerm's sons, Artharn and Wanchalerm, are believed to have failed to report for their conscription calls. Chavalit reiterated his policy to issue a blanket amnesty to all draft-dodgers as part of a package to replace conscription with voluntary recruitment. Senate Speaker Manoonkrit Roopkachorn said the amnesty for draft-dodgers might be deliberated at the next parliamentary session. Defence officials said the amnesty bill, if approved by the government, would pardon military deserters, draft-dodgers, and those who have failed to report to conscription calls.

One is led to wonder what influence Chalerm may have had in this current matter.Seems as if there may well be one rule for one person and one rule for another.

Look at the names in the post above and their connections via a political now defunct party to current influential people both here and abroad..

A gentle effluvia of a decaying rodent seems to be drifting past my nasal orifices concerning this matter..

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Abhisit seems to be missing the point here, whether he knew the documents were fake or not it would still mean his position should not have been held and quite rightly his rank should be removed.

Either way, with his knowledge or without his knowledge he used documents to obtain a position that should not have been used and therefore negates the rank given.

he also goes on about people being convicted do not lose their rank, well again there is no relevance to this as they were convicted, abhisit has not been, and they also got their rank through the proper channels.

And as for his comment that it is politically motivated, I nearly choked on my cornflakes with this comment, pot kettle etc

Might be handy to read the article again?

The documents were not produced by him!

Red or yellow, this reeks of ...............

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I can't understand why Abhisit bothers, tbh. The day this country voted for Thaksin's proxy - inexperienced sister with nothing on her CV except a phoney business position awarded by her brother - his career was over.

When the electorate choose the strong but morally bankrupt for their leaders, there is no hope that this society is going to do anything but continue on a downward trajectory for the forseable future.

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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Chalerm-s-sons-never-served-Surayud-47987.htm

The hopes of Artharn and Wanchalerm Yoobamrung sons of New Aspiration Party deputy leader Chalerm being reinstated into the police force were dampened yesterday after the military insisted they had failed to report for conscription formalities. Army Commander-in-Chief General Surayud Chulanont said conscription records clearly showed neither Artharn nor Wanchalerm had reported for duty.

The two Yoobamrung brothers were accused of avoiding their conscription duties and obtaining falsified Sor Dor 43 documents, which showed they had reported for duty but were exempted by drawing ballots. Prosecutors decided on Wednesday not to try the two brothers, citing lack of evidence. Witnesses, including a temple abbot and three village headmen, claimed they had seen the brothers reporting for duty. And police forensic checks indicated that their conscription documents were genuine, according to prosecutors.

The two were discharged from police service pending the results of their legal proceedings. Conscription duties are required for a police commission. Col Somsak Janmanee, Bangkok conscription officer, said Artharn, born in 1972, was classified as a reservist second class as he had not served his duty.Artharn was supposed to report for duty between 1993 and 1998. Wanchalerm, born in 1974, had sought and received approval to delay his conscription to between 1995 and 2000 in order to complete his tertiary education.

He was supposed to report for duty in April but never showed up, Somsak said.Although the two brothers claimed to possess Sor Dor 43 documents, the serial numbers on their papers did not match the stubs on official forms, sources said. The Army also had no records of the two brothers

Another interesting snippet which seems to confirm that there are indeed under this current maladministration definitely one set of rules for one person as the post above clearly shows.

Yet again look at the names, the mind boggles at the coincidental links of the people in power at both times.

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Every polititian in every country, repeat every country,

has a skeleton in the closet awaiting to be discovered.

Thailand is no different.

You're not The Donald are you?

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Thaivisa.com, let's get it together! Your email subject line reads"

"FLASH: Abhisit stripped of his military rank;"

According to the actual story posted in the forum, the headline reads:

"Sukampol Approves Decision To Strip Abhisit Of Military Rank"

So, I would gather that there is a move to do so, but it has not actually happened yet. Correct? Or not correct? Or somewhere in the middle? Or none of the above?

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'Abhisit said the move to strip him of his rank demonstrated a double standard...',

'.... the Pheu Thai Party and its red-shirt allies, who allege a double standard.......'

Thailand the HUB of double standards. cheesy.gif

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When are they all gonna grow up and stop playing these stupid games and actually start governing this country properly and fairly?

When they turf this bunch of rabble out!!

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When are they all gonna grow up and stop playing these stupid games and actually start governing this country properly and fairly?

When they turf this bunch of rabble out!!

Problem is, it's not just the current bunch of liars and thieves, it's all of them. It makes no difference who is actually "in power", they are all as bad as each other.

I know there is lying and corruption within all forms of Government world wide, but Thailand ranks up near the top at being so blatant about it. And let's not even get started on the subject of double standards.

A cry out to all the Thai's - please, please, please wake up, and actually do something about things here instead of sitting back and watching you and your country get shafted at every opportunity by your 'leaders'. It's painful to sit on the sidelines and see a great country and a great people be so royally screwed all the time. Mai pen lai just won't cut it much longer.

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If this is true, could his parents, or some other family member got this 'Fixed' for him?

One way or another this is about destroying someone's 'Face', something very important in Thai society/culture?

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This seems to make it clear where the current military brass's allegiance is,.. and it's not with the Dems.

This could never have happened with the Dems in power and is quite disconcerting that it should happen at all!

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This seems to make it clear where the current military brass's allegiance is,.. and it's not with the Dems.

This could never have happened with the Dems in power and is quite disconcerting that it should happen at all!

I feel just a tiny bit of a tinge of sympathy for Abhisit. It is ages ago, and hardly the worst crime in the world, but if you are going to go into politics, he should have known better. On another level thousands of rich connected Thai's do this year after year, and its illegal and sums up what is essentially wrong with the country. One level for the rich and connected, another for the rest, so essentially it is deeply hypocritical to get out of it.

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