webfact Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 German Kills Pet Dog, the Other Side of the Story SATTAHIP: -- German man accused of stabbing dog to death comes forward with the other side of the story Following recent, reports in local media of a German man killing a 2 year old Golden retriever, the German resident, accused of the act, has come forward and been interviewed by local police. In his statement, the 65 year old admitted the killing but wanted to clear up the matter and explain his actions As the owner of a trained Rottweiler himself, the man is a dog lover and not hater. In fact it was as he walked his own dog, on a regular basis around his own home, that the 2 year old Golden Retriever, which was never tethered or locked in a yard, regularly attacked him and his own dog. Previous to the attack in question, the police had received at least one complaint from him regarding the animal and the owner appeared to have made no attempt to secure his pet. On the day of the killing, the German man was excercising his dog round the area close to his home when the Retriever once again attacked his dog, and refused to go away. The man then went into his own kitchen and came out with the knife, to protect his dog and hopefully drive the animal away. Instead it attacked him and bit him, causing bruising and injury to his leg and arm, and drawing blood. At some point the German admitted losing his temper and in a fury, stabbed the animal to death. Read more: http://www.pattaya10.../#ixzz2CI7aQkWX --Pattaya 103 FM 2012-11-15 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] related story: German Stabs Dog To Death In Frenzied Attack In Sattahip http://www.thaivisa....ck-in-sattahip/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted November 15, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2012 The man then went into his own kitchen and came out with the knife, to protect his dog and hopefully drive the animal away. How would a dog recognize a knife as something dangerous? the obvious thing here would have been a big stick (or a broom which he surly would have had to hand). 17 stab wounds is is a frenzied attack, how do we know that the bits were from the retriever before he started attacking it, to me a retriever is very much a docile animal and possibly the injuries to the german were sustained as the dog defended itself. Anyway a person who does that to a dog should never be allowed to keep any animal. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALFREDO Posted November 15, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2012 Attacked by a knife? I would maybe also bite back. Did he not find a larger wood or a broomstick, to teach the Retriever a lesson? If I am the German and ="As the owner of a trained Rottweiler"= as it was stated above, I would want my money back,. First, from the Breeder who sold me that Rottweiler -wimp- a "Rotti" who needs help from an aging guy against a -Golden Retriever-! OMG! Second, from the Trainer who trained his dog, if it was not himself. Trained what? -To piss off-? Why people buy a Rottweiler? to experience than stories like that? Do not think so. Good possibility, some of the anger against the Golden Retriever, is anger about the inability of his Rottweiler, to control the situation. I had many dogs in my life and one Rottweiler, in a group of 5 male dogs. 2 of the dogs a bit larger and more heavy than the Rottweiler, but he was the -Alpha- dog! That is a dog and Retrievers do not even dare to look at him! That is -Aura-! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemoncake Posted November 15, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted November 15, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2012 I do not believe a single word this man says. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarmerJoe Posted November 15, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2012 Sorry to burst your bubble, but not all Rottweiliers are as brave or tough as you think. I have fended off quite a few of them out on my runs around the village by turning the table on them and rushing head on to them. They always run off with their stubs between their legs. The wife thinks I'm insane and she brings our Golden Retriever with her on her runs and he has taken care of the neigbors large vicious dogs. Retrievers can kick some ass if they need to. Believe me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Sorry to burst your bubble, but not all Rottweiliers are as brave or tough as you think. I have fended off quite a few of them out on my runs around the village by turning the table on them and rushing head on to them. They always run off with their stubs between their legs. The wife thinks I'm insane and she brings our Golden Retriever with her on her runs and he has taken care of the neigbors large vicious dogs. Retrievers can kick some ass if they need to. Believe me. You should see the Chihuahua's, they can take on a dragon any time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred007 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Anger management may be appropriate here....... Me thinks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naam Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 yada yada yada yakety yakety yakety-yak 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 this was a premeditated act he fetched the weapon from the house he admitted it was his intent to return to confront the dog with the knife he took his own dog back to the scene and risked his own dog being injured to provoke an attack he had expectations that the retriever would react in the same way it had done before and as he had planned, he used the dogs second attack as an excuse to kill it if it was a person he had planned to execute in the same way, it would be called murder simple as that 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 did the police bother to ask him to take off the bandages to inspect the ''wounds''? these may well have been old pictures used to justify his attack and premeditated killing of the dog if i had injuries such as these, i would be showing them to the police for shock effect and effect sympathy to my case not just showing some pictures........ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post angsta Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Too many "stray" dogs in Thailand as it is. Who will really miss this one? Keep your dog inside or risk random farangs stabbing it to death is the moral of the story here. 25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Too many "stray" dogs in Thailand as it is. Who will really miss this one? Keep your dog inside or risk random farangs stabbing it to death is the moral of the story here. maybe the owners children will never forget the sight of their beloved pet barbarically killed in the street by some crazed farang this act might well be the root cause of a thai-farang death at some time in the future by those same children for sure its not going help thai german relations is it.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuukKoeyKorat Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe the parents of a small kid will never forget the sight of their child mauled to death by a territorial aggressive, untethered Retriever.... 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemoncake Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe the parents of a small kid will never forget the sight of their child mauled to death by a territorial aggressive, untethered Retriever.... and what does that have to do with the thread? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrissables Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison Maybe, as in the street where i live, there is only one way to leave it! (Why should he have to accept a no go area in the village he lives?) If he had an attack dog i am sure you would be slagging him off too. If i could not leave my street (if that is the case), had asked the police and the Thai man to control his "attack dog" but nothing happened, i'm sure i would be inclined to do the same. It's reported he had been attacked before! What the %cuk has the breed got to with an uncontrable dog attacking another? Basics of dog ownership. What are you talking about? 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuukKoeyKorat Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's as much the responsibility of the owners to ensure that their dog doesn't go nuts towards passersby, as it is for the German to not lose his nut and play Rambo. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oops Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 I am on the Germans side. Some of you guys don't get it. We get singled out here a lot and by our own while the Thai's stick together right or wrong. For me even though I am American, I chose to believe the German. He isn't to far off the marker Even though you can cut wholes ( No pun intended) in his story the fact remains that the Thai dog owners Never take responsibility for their dogs. If their dog bits you it's not their dog, they only give it food sometimes If you dog bits them they want money right away, starting at 4,000 baht. If you hit them on the motorcycle even no damage they want money If they hit you on a motorcycle they give you the middle finger as they run off. So, for all you nayers in here I hope you don't have to stand alone anytime soon. As he said this was an ongoing issue, he did file a complaint, nothing was done...not surprising. The police in Sattahip force you to take things into your own hands I would say that the Thai dog owner doesn't really care anyway, he is most likely waiting for a handsome payout of 20,000 baht or so. Then he will go buy more dogs and put them out in the street just so this guy will kill them again. Instead of the police fining the guy for not keeping his dog fenced in or leashed he will get a reward for doing the wrong thing which seems to be consistent with the rule of law here. 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jane Doe Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Dogs often reflect the owner's personality. I do not think the German was an aggressive man and many locals around don't give a dam_n about their dogs. This situation did not come out of the blue, there have been arguments before. Too bad the German took that knife. If he would have taken a stick the dog would have stayed away. Have you tried to catch or kick a dog who is attacking you? It is not that easy. Usually they make a lot of noise, but won't come close enough to get them with a knife. If the owner of the dead dog would have kept it under control or on his yard - problem solved. I see a lot of dogs running around freely in the area where I live. It is just a question of time when something similar happens again. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OmegaRacer Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison 1. The killed dog was running free around the Moo Baan. Why should he take a different route? What if there wasn't one. Simply protecting its territory? Its territory is INSIDE the gates of his owners house! 2. If I had a dog and cared about it, I wouldn't let it fight with another dog, even though it may be stronger. The German guy understands the basics of ownership well I think. He keeps the dog on his propriety, keeps it on a leash when he take it out to excercise and apparently trained it. Just the OPPOSITE of the other dog's owner. In cold blood? Cold blood means premeditation. He and his dog were attacked, more than once, and he lost his temper. That's the opposite of cold blood. The situation had been going on for a prolonged period of time. Sure, 17 stabs are a lot, but I, for one, completely understand the action. Too many dogs around, we need more cats! :-) 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuukKoeyKorat Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Omega, you are spot on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison Maybe, as in the street where i live, there is only one way to leave it! (Why should he have to accept a no go area in the village he lives?) If he had an attack dog i am sure you would be slagging him off too. If i could not leave my street (if that is the case), had asked the police and the Thai man to control his "attack dog" but nothing happened, i'm sure i would be inclined to do the same. It's reported he had been attacked before! What the %cuk has the breed got to with an uncontrable dog attacking another? Basics of dog ownership. What are you talking about? in my opinion the previously filed reports were nothing more than a false flag to create a cover for his planned execution of the dog..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison 1. The killed dog was running free around the Moo Baan. Why should he take a different route? What if there wasn't one. Simply protecting its territory? Its territory is INSIDE the gates of his owners house! 2. If I had a dog and cared about it, I wouldn't let it fight with another dog, even though it may be stronger. The German guy understands the basics of ownership well I think. He keeps the dog on his propriety, keeps it on a leash when he take it out to excercise and apparently trained it. Just the OPPOSITE of the other dog's owner. In cold blood? Cold blood means premeditation. He and his dog were attacked, more than once, and he lost his temper. That's the opposite of cold blood. The situation had been going on for a prolonged period of time. Sure, 17 stabs are a lot, but I, for one, completely understand the action. Too many dogs around, we need more cats! :-) he fetched the knife from the house he admitted he was going to use it to confront the dog he returned to the scene with his own dog to provoke another attack by the retriever everything went to plan, the dog attacked, he killed it. his previous false flag reports covered his actions the pictures helped re-enforce his case pre meditated cold blooded murder..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeya Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Id fark that dogs sh.t up. but maybe not with a knife 17 times. If a dog takes me on... Its time to die 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Id fark that dogs sh.t up. but maybe not with a knife 17 times. If a dog takes me on... Its time to die so scared i'm shaking...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeya Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 right back at you softy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 right back at you softy big handsome bastard i wish that was me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrissables Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison Maybe, as in the street where i live, there is only one way to leave it! (Why should he have to accept a no go area in the village he lives?) If he had an attack dog i am sure you would be slagging him off too. If i could not leave my street (if that is the case), had asked the police and the Thai man to control his "attack dog" but nothing happened, i'm sure i would be inclined to do the same. It's reported he had been attacked before! What the %cuk has the breed got to with an uncontrable dog attacking another? Basics of dog ownership. What are you talking about? in my opinion the previously filed reports were nothing more than a false flag to create a cover for his planned execution of the dog..... But if he and his dog were nt being attacked there would not have been a problem in the first place. And as i am sure you know, trying to ask a Thai person to control their dog is a waste of time, i have tried, now i throw water when they come to shit in front of my house, but i am sure in a Thai's eyes i would be wrong doing that! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 So lets get the story straight. 1.Instead of taking a different route, he kept walking his "well trained" dog in the same area further escalating the problem? The other dog was simply protecting its territory as most dogs do 2. His well trained Rottweiler was unable to defend itself? 3. Supposedly after the last attack, he a. went home b. took a knife, supposedly to scare the other dog? c. Went back d. the dog just attacked him? for no reason, interesting that the dog never attacked him before, only his dog e. A Rottweiler needs a protection from a retriever? Not only the man is short of few IQ points, but does not even seem to comprehend the basics of dog ownership, Man capable of stabbing an animal 17 times in cold blood is capable of stabbing another human being, only the matter of time. I do feel sorry for the Rottweiler not only for his owner, but also very likely the dog will be poisoned by the thai neighbors, though hope authority's will throw him out of the country after having him serve sometime in luxury Thai prison Maybe, as in the street where i live, there is only one way to leave it! (Why should he have to accept a no go area in the village he lives?) If he had an attack dog i am sure you would be slagging him off too. If i could not leave my street (if that is the case), had asked the police and the Thai man to control his "attack dog" but nothing happened, i'm sure i would be inclined to do the same. It's reported he had been attacked before! What the %cuk has the breed got to with an uncontrable dog attacking another? Basics of dog ownership. What are you talking about? in my opinion the previously filed reports were nothing more than a false flag to create a cover for his planned execution of the dog..... But if he and his dog were nt being attacked there would not have been a problem in the first place. And as i am sure you know, trying to ask a Thai person to control their dog is a waste of time, i have tried, now i throw water when they come to shit in front of my house, but i am sure in a Thai's eyes i would be wrong doing that! i can't disagree with that however i am of the view that the german exaggerated the situation to friends and police to create an alibi for his planned execution of the dog it seems to be working with the folks of TV........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuukKoeyKorat Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2012 Although a lot of us have time on their hands and nothing else to do in the mornings or afternoon, I find it very difficult to follow Timekeepers presumption that this guy planned the death of this dog in advance, to the point of allowing himself to be hurt previously to excuse his actions now,to fool friends, neighbours, the cop,s TV'ers etc. Hmmmmm....what?? Maybe you've been watching too much CSI or something. It's pretty clear....he's been attacked before, he asked for help, non forthcoming, he defended himself...albeit by going over the top and doing a Rambo with a knife.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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