newermonkey 418 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Doesn't seem to be any mention of a deal that Thai prosecutors may not demand the death penalty but perhaps that is just standard and not worth mentioning. I hope that don't let him escape again. I think the death penalty might be concidered if it were a Thai National murdered, but remember it was only another farang. Link to post Share on other sites
animatic 4,693 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Doesn't seem to be any mention of a deal that Thai prosecutors may not demand the death penalty but perhaps that is just standard and not worth mentioning. I hope that don't let him escape again. That is standerd. Without such deal he cannot be extradited as the European Convention on Human Rights prohibits that. AAnd 40+ years in a Thai prison personally would very likely be scarier than getting officially quickly killed early on. And besides with his roidhead attitude, and kickboxer notoriety, he will be challenged early and often in muy thai land stir, and his shelf life is not assured unless he makes some serious connections that he is unlikely to be able to make. As to them "letting him escape". He made very fast for the border to Malaysia before the Thai police were even sure who they were looking for. They didn't 'let him escape". Edited November 20, 2012 by animatic Link to post Share on other sites
EarthAlien 209 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I must say I'm surprised at this decision. Would be interested to learn as to whether a "no death penalty" agreement had been made by the Thai government as terms of the extradition. It would appear that the UK legal system would like to see some penalty applied to this man as they seem to have gone out of their way to hold him on "unrelated charges" and thereby have aided the extradition process. Perhaps he is a known loose cannon and dangerous type that the Brits would like to see curtailed? Sad to see two lives (victim and assailant) ruined over one man's inability to control his humility, rage and anger. I don't totally agree that Lee Aldhouse is a scumbag necessarily,.. just a guy that went off the rails and will no doubt live to regret that! Link to post Share on other sites
Mario2008 3,564 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Doesn't seem to be any mention of a deal that Thai prosecutors may not demand the death penalty but perhaps that is just standard and not worth mentioning. I hope that don't let him escape again. I think the death penalty might be concidered if it were a Thai National murdered, but remember it was only another farang. Thailand has the death penalty, but it is not often executed. Besides, one cannot be extradited from a memberstate of the European Convention on Human Rights if one can be given the death penalty or there is a reasonable fear for inhuman treatment/torture. In that respect once nationality is not important. Even Osama Bin Laden could not have been extradited from the UK without assurences he would not recieve the death penalty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
waza 4,393 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hopefully justice is served Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post bubba 1,383 Posted November 20, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2012 So many hypocrites...on the one hand everyone mocks the Thai justice system, on the other hand they praise justice being done with this extradition. I believe the praise here is due to the UK judicial system, which has approved extradition of Mr. Aldhouse to Thailand. It remains to be seen how the Thai judicial system operates once he is back in Thailand. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Bagwan 1,435 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Finally justice prevail ...... good news that guy will know you dont kill people without impunity , even in Thailand .. Better check your facts again. And a dictionary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oops 147 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Finally justice prevail ...... good news that guy will know you dont kill people without impunity , even in Thailand .. Why not it seems Thai's do it all the time.....I don't know, just saying. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
newermonkey 418 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Doesn't seem to be any mention of a deal that Thai prosecutors may not demand the death penalty but perhaps that is just standard and not worth mentioning. I hope that don't let him escape again. I think the death penalty might be concidered if it were a Thai National murdered, but remember it was only another farang. Thailand has the death penalty, but it is not often executed. Besides, one cannot be extradited from a memberstate of the European Convention on Human Rights if one can be given the death penalty or there is a reasonable fear for inhuman treatment/torture. In that respect once nationality is not important. Even Osama Bin Laden could not have been extradited from the UK without assurences he would not recieve the death penalty. But anyway he's going to a hell which is most likely worst than death, unfortunatly he will probably degrade the life of others around him because of his "bruiser" nature 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whidbeyboy 165 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I find it interesting that someone who kills a man, taking away all he had and all he will ever have complain about human rights violations. Murderers (IF found guilty) do not deserve rights. Except maybe the right to sit in a cell for a longtime while his ;ife waste away. Also, why would someone who prides himself a Muay Thai fighter resort to stabbing someone? I don;t know much about Muay Thai, but sure some of it's core tenets include respecting your opponent. His pic makes me think he is pretty full of himself and just a poser. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
peterdarby 227 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Even if the death penalty were to be handed down, it is unlikely that it would be administered to a farang. I believe he will have to serve a third of his sentence in Thailand before being transferred to UK for the remainder (if requested). Since he was arrested at Heathrow on an unrelated charge, it would appear he is not a very seemly gentleman, and I'm sure the British justice system will be happy for Thailand to look after him. Edited November 20, 2012 by peterdarby Link to post Share on other sites
Pui 221 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) It will be very surprising if this actually happens. Edited November 20, 2012 by Pui 2 Link to post Share on other sites
KillingTime 54 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Well i must say, i didnt think that would happen, should be back for a nice Xmas healthy dinner of fish heads and rice water Interestingly, quite a few brits who've been transferred to the UK after serving the first few years of their sentences in Bangkwang have said they preferred the Thai jail, where there was a lot more freedom than in 23 hr/7d/w UK lock-ups. If you have a bit of cash the food can be fine too (you cook it yourself), and of course you can buy all sorts of other "stuff" to make the time go faster. The view of Thai prisons was distorted by a ludicrous book called "The Damage Done" about Bangkwang in the 70's. These days its way different, but even back then it bore little resemblance to its depiction in that sensationalist book, as confirmed to me by two acquaintances who spent time on both sides of the walls. One a prisoner, the other a guard. Anyway, it's good to know Mr Lee is going to be out of circulation for a very long time. Link to post Share on other sites
smotherb 6,143 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 great news! Having been there at Freedom bar that night and seeing everything unfold and going to the scene of the crime 30 minutes after the brutal murder (yes IT WAS HIM!!), I will also be making myself available to the police/courts and the victims family... Lets put this guy where he belongs. Hmm, yes, that is an astounding revelation that surely will secure justice. Let's recap: 1) you were at the Freedom when they fought--presumably you can identify, or better yet knew, Mr. Aldhouse and Mr. Longfellow; and 2) you were at the scene of the crime 30 minutes later, where I presume Mr. Longfellow may still have been, but Mr. Aldhouse had gone. Is that correct? Then, how can you be so sure ,"IT WAS HIM"? Unless you are simply identifying Mr. Longfellow with your statement, how do you reach the conclusion it was Mr. Aldhouse who stabbed Mr. Longfellow? Link to post Share on other sites
oops 147 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I must say I'm surprised at this decision. Would be interested to learn as to whether a "no death penalty" agreement had been made by the Thai government as terms of the extradition. It would appear that the UK legal system would like to see some penalty applied to this man as they seem to have gone out of their way to hold him on "unrelated charges" and thereby have aided the extradition process. Perhaps he is a known loose cannon and dangerous type that the Brits would like to see curtailed? Sad to see two lives (victim and assailant) ruined over one man's inability to control his humility, rage and anger. I don't totally agree that Lee Aldhouse is a scumbag necessarily,.. just a guy that went off the rails and will no doubt live to regret that! Yeah; I can understand why you wouldn't think he isn't a scumbag, it;s not like he had time to cool off or did it on the spare of the moment. If memory serves me right he went home to get a knife then drove to the guys home, waited outside until the Americans showed up at his house in a sabotage style, came up from behind to stabbed him to death..I'm a bit dumb founded though, because I really don't know what part to praise him for (1) be a chicken shick sneaking up behind the guy. (2) Or stabbing him to death because the American kicked his ass.. well hey ! bottom line is I have the up most respect for him as well, I mean how could you not under these circumstances right? Well, he won't have to worry about them kicking his ass in the jail here..I understand they have a much better purpose for it. In fact they say some go in like this ( o ) and come out like this ( O ) ouch. Link to post Share on other sites
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