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British Murder Suspect Lee Aldhouse To Be Extradited To Phuket

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Finally justice prevail ...... good news that guy will know you dont kill people without impunity , even in Thailand ..

Thai people do.

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Murder always destroys two lives in a just world. Aware of such fact is no doubt why Lee Aldhouse ran to England. Lee must be punished. However the court will take into account that both Men were trying to hurt the other. I imagine that a moderate penalty will be applied if he is found

guilty.

Have you read anything at all about this assault. Lee stalked that man, and stabbed him in the back (by all accounts). No moderate penalty should be applied.

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Murder always destroys two lives in a just world. Aware of such fact is no doubt why Lee Aldhouse ran to England. Lee must be punished. However the court will take into account that both Men were trying to hurt the other. I imagine that a moderate penalty will be applied if he is found

guilty.

Have you read anything at all about this assault. Lee stalked that man, and stabbed him in the back (by all accounts). No moderate penalty should be applied.

Yes i thought that a bizarre post aswell. i haven't been following this too closely since the initial reports but to say it was a matter of "two men trying to hurt each other is ridiculous. The guy stole a knife seen on cctv then allegedly went round to his home and stabbed him in the back.

If proven thats every bit a life sentence i'd have thought

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First Brit ever to be extradited to Thailand from the Uk,,,,,,,,,,that's quite an honour and the Thais should do the right thing by him if found guilty. Shoot him right between the eyes that'll make him really famous.

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Doesn't seem to be any mention of a deal that Thai prosecutors may not demand the death penalty but perhaps that is just standard and not worth mentioning. I hope that don't let him escape again.

That is standerd. Without such deal he cannot be extradited as the European Convention on Human Rights prohibits that.

As to them "letting him escape". He made very fast for the border to Malaysia before the

Thai police were even sure who they were looking for. They didn't 'let him escape".

Didn't he cross the border at Klong Yai to Cambodia ?

Sanuk

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Good question, seems their is a death sentence question not quite answered. sad.png

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What 24/7 Bangup you are joking. The British jails are just like a 2 star hotel, you got your own LCD tv, keys to your own cell. You can wear your own clothes, choice of three meals both at lunch and dinner. Your out of your cell pretty much of the day.

You got access to education and gym, as well as other activities, some prisons have got phones in there cells.

I would imagine you would have to do some solid behind the door time before you got those types of privliges, they are normally reserved for first time non violent offenders or undesirables who are ending the end of there time, it will be 2 or 3 to a cell, nice bright red ladies tracksuits and 23 hr a day to reminise on how tough of a guy he is....

In einsight maybe the Thai route will be better for him....

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I must say I'm surprised at this decision.

Would be interested to learn as to whether a "no death penalty" agreement had been made by the Thai government as terms of the extradition.

It would appear that the UK legal system would like to see some penalty applied to this man as they seem to have gone out of their way to hold him on "unrelated charges" and thereby have aided the extradition process. Perhaps he is a known loose cannon and dangerous type that the Brits would like to see curtailed?

Sad to see two lives (victim and assailant) ruined over one man's inability to control his humility, rage and anger.

I don't totally agree that Lee Aldhouse is a scumbag necessarily,.. just a guy that went off the rails and will no doubt live to regret that!

Nope, He's a scumbag. Did you read the whole story? This guy had a long time reputation for being a bully and an overall douchebag. Yeah, scumbag fits him just fine.

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What 24/7 Bangup you are joking. The British jails are just like a 2 star hotel, you got your own LCD tv, keys to your own cell. You can wear your own clothes, choice of three meals both at lunch and dinner. Your out of your cell pretty much of the day.

You got access to education and gym, as well as other activities, some prisons have got phones in there cells.

I would imagine you would have to do some solid behind the door time before you got those types of privliges, they are normally reserved for first time non violent offenders or undesirables who are ending the end of there time, it will be 2 or 3 to a cell, nice bright red ladies tracksuits and 23 hr a day to reminise on how tough of a guy he is....

In einsight maybe the Thai route will be better for him....

You imagined wrong. Those privileges (with the exception of the games console) are available for every prisoner upon entry and are taken away from you if you fall foul of the rules inside. What he didn't also mention, is that you get paid for working in a British prison, which is all relatively easy work and gets you out of your cell for long periods.

There are two recreation periods a day. Occasionally it can be a 23 hour day inside the cell, but that's incredibly rare for the average prisoner. Obviously violent, drug taking, mental cons are normally locked up for longer than the rest of the prison population for good reason.

You have access to a phone, inside the prison, normally next to the guard house. There are flush toilets. A medic always available. Your medication will be given to you.

Your meal choices are tailored to your diet and religion. You're fed a hot calorific meal 3 times a day, for which you're let out of your cell, unless your privileges are taken away.

You can enrol in any kind of education program you can think of. They have computers, music rooms, a barber, pool/snooker tables, a fully stocked library that can get you books to order if it's not in stock.

There's a VPU (Vulnerable Prisoner Unit) that you have to be sent to if you request it on entering the prison, which, as you would imagine, where prisoners are treated with even softer rules and guidelines.

Just reading the British press on a fairly moderate basis would tell you that repeat offenders locked up in the UK often laugh at their sentence and tell the judge "thanks for the bed and board" and "ridiculously easy time".

They also wear blue. Not red. It's not a jumpsuit. You're given 3-4 sets of a shirts, pullovers, trousers, socks, underwear, shoes when you arrive. You're allowed to keep some items of what you were wearing when you were processed - like sneakers for example. There are uniforms for work in lots of cases.

Compared to the Thai prisons which are: ~20 to a room. Sleeping on the floor in a space the size of your body. Infested with insects. Outlandishly hot. Chock full of airborne/waterborne diseases. Have you shackled around the hands and legs, which leads to chafing and skin infections. Have you defecate in public. Have a lights out. Have no phone. Have the most basic food provisions possible. No prison-run education. Forced labour for no pay. No games and hobbies. Riots where live ammunition is used. Beatings. Guards that have guns. Shall I go on...

Unless you're a dollar millionaire, I see no way in which a Thai prison is even in the same ball park.

It's hard graft and an extremely unpleasant experience and Thailand often appears in Amnesty's list of countries with the worst prisons and human rights abuses in prisons.

EDIT: I will say the "keys to your own cell" thing is a bit of a myth. In some C & D Cat prisons that may be the case for those about to leave the place and who already have regular day releases. That's definitely not the case for 90%+ of the general prison population.

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Lastly, the phrase is "in hindsight." and it doesn't apply as "in hindsight" means looking back at some event or events that happened in the past.

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It is truly a regrettable reflection on the condition of the affairs of human civilization when decent people have to express happiness and satisfaction over something that should ordinarily work seamlessely and be the medium. People act like they had been holding their breath these days when the law goes into action. Will justice serve, or will it fail?

In the old days, when someone did wrong, it wasn't a question fo holding your breath. It was more a sigh of release at the time the person was apprehended, since the matter was usually wrapped up at that point. They got'em. Good! And the matter was closed and you never heard about it again. Not now, though. The day that Law Enforecement took the "To Protect and Serve" stickers of their cruiser doors is the day that all this went into the shitter. This has nothing to do with justice, and more to do with a strategic, political move; probably due to Osama's... I mean Obama's visit to Thailand.

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Finally justice prevail ...... good news that guy will know you dont kill people without impunity , even in Thailand ..

Boll-x, unless of course you are rich and connected (and Thai) and you accidently shoot someone in a bar with a machine gun, or kill a police sergeant-major with a car whilst under the influence of drugs.

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A bit of Thai justice will do him the world of good instead of the relaxed prison system [ rehabilitation centres ] in the west

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So many hypocrites...on the one hand everyone mocks the Thai justice system, on the other hand they praise justice being done with this extradition.

Thailand does have the best justice system that money can buy! however I don't think he has enough to buy himself out of this.remember it was the brits that agreed to send him back!

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