thaicbr Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 BMW for years has been making bikes in China and selling them in America with no quality issues to speak of, so why can't anyone else ? Because BMW care about their name. Long Lang long motors doesn't?????? But yes in theory there should be no reason why not. Chinese electronics are getting better by the year. Time will tell if the motor bikes will as well. sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookball Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 BMW for years has been making bikes in China and selling them in America with no quality issues to speak of, so why can't anyone else ? look, rotax designed with outsourced parts and resembled in other countries is different from designed and manufactured by keeway in china, rebadged as benelli elsewhere, just not a comparison. btw as far one dont really call bmw bikes as unreliable, no quality issues to speak of is an overstatement. maybe you should check out those fork failures in f650gs thread at advrider forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Seems this bike is sporting 50mm forks some sites say Marzocchi & radial mount brakes. Will be interesting to see what reviews say. Just saw this & seems they are Marzocchi http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/09/eicma-2012-benelli-is-alive-and-well/ Edited December 2, 2012 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrdam Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 After reading so much air movements I wait only for one thing..... someone who buy the machine and post here real comments and not all the China bullshit. Fair test and statements with real data that is what is needed. Regards from a happy Platinum 50K driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 After reading so much air movements I wait only for one thing..... someone who buy the machine and post here real comments and not all the China bullshit. Fair test and statements with real data that is what is needed.Regards from a happy Platinum 50K driver Yes man. This what we are looking for. Someone to buy it. As it s hard to find someone with guts to buy it:D You accuse us as being unfair but i wonder if you are so happy with your chinese platinum why dont you go buy one and enlighten us about it? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 BMW for years has been making bikes in China and selling them in America with no quality issues to speak of, so why can't anyone else ? Bikes? The 650cc engine only, for the G 650, it's what I know about. Which Bike models to they fabricate in China, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Ok serious question Where do you even go to buy one have they got dealers set up in bkk. Are you able to order it at the motorshow is it even available in this country yet. Edited December 2, 2012 by taninthai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Seems this bike is sporting 50mm forks some sites say Marzocchi & radial mount brakes. Will be interesting to see what reviews say. Just saw this & seems they are Marzocchi http://www.cycleworl...alive-and-well/ Marzocchi upside-down forks and Brembo brakes rotors are only good if they're mounted on a Ducati. The critics here will probably try to convince people that Honda brakes and suspension are better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Marzocchi upside-down forks and Brembo brakes rotors are only good if they're mounted on a Ducati. The critics here will probably try to convince people that Honda brakes and suspension are better... I will say I was surprised to see such components on a bike of this price. These are not made by them so it shows they do have an eye to quality. I am sure they could have easily made something themselves but chose to go with proven. But If they see the advantage on these parts it may well extend onto other sections of the bike as well. Whether sourced outside or built in house. We will see when they have a few tests published. I am interested to see how they turn out on the road. I have said before competition is good for consumers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Marzocchi upside-down forks and Brembo brakes rotors are only good if they're mounted on a Ducati. The critics here will probably try to convince people that Honda brakes and suspension are better... I will say I was surprised to see such components on a bike of this price. These are not made by them so it shows they do have an eye to quality. I am sure they could have easily made something themselves but chose to go with proven. But If they see the advantage on these parts it may well extend onto other sections of the bike as well. Whether sourced outside or built in house. We will see when they have a few tests published. I am interested to see how they turn out on the road. I have said before competition is good for consumers But brembo also manufacture for example in india for duke 200 but it is a budget brembo. A super cheap one. Like benelli, chinese might be producing them and re badging them as brembo? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Fussy styling that doesn't work perfectly can be considered a dogs breakfast by some including me. But if the thing goes, handles and stops better than anything else.....it maybe worth having despite the looks. My gut feeling is the Chinese will cheap out on whatever they think they can get away with but still try to turn out a decent bike. They have more to gain than lose if they lift the quality. But then, it's pretty hard to lose much when your at the bottom anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 No, its much worser. The double disc front brakes are completely fake. Only one side is working. The other side is plastic fake with Brembo logo printed on it! A new chinese trick to make the bike look expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) http://motocrossacti...IAN-Q-3021.aspx "Hinting at what could be on the horizon for Benelli, Haimei Yan hinted at a possible 600cc in-line four supersport bike, with power tipping in at 130 hp at 15,500 rpm." 3 years later, only 60% of the hp left. But it's more difficult, to build a 600cc engine with sound 130hp, then grab brake parts, that are in use for other models, too. I think, you will find exactly the same BREMBO Caliper at the 899. With other disc, or only different pads, it will work on the 600CC/80hp bike as good as on the 899. And more parts, less expensive! Edited December 2, 2012 by noob7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 No, its much worser. The double disc front brakes are completely fake. Only one side is working. The other side is plastic fake with Brembo logo printed on it! A new chinese trick to make the bike look expensive That is not a good sign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I was just wondering....will there be a dealership in Pattaya, or will we have to go to Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Or Beijing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Marzocchi upside-down forks and Brembo brakes rotors are only good if they're mounted on a Ducati. The critics here will probably try to convince people that Honda brakes and suspension are better... I will say I was surprised to see such components on a bike of this price. These are not made by them so it shows they do have an eye to quality. I am sure they could have easily made something themselves but chose to go with proven. But If they see the advantage on these parts it may well extend onto other sections of the bike as well. Whether sourced outside or built in house. We will see when they have a few tests published. I am interested to see how they turn out on the road. I have said before competition is good for consumers But brembo also manufacture for example in india for duke 200 but it is a budget brembo. A super cheap one. Like benelli, chinese might be producing them and re badging them as brembo? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App You can put a Shimano gear and brake system on a Huffy, but it'll still be a Huffy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Marzocchi upside-down forks and Brembo brakes rotors are only good if they're mounted on a Ducati. The critics here will probably try to convince people that Honda brakes and suspension are better... I will say I was surprised to see such components on a bike of this price. These are not made by them so it shows they do have an eye to quality. I am sure they could have easily made something themselves but chose to go with proven. But If they see the advantage on these parts it may well extend onto other sections of the bike as well. Whether sourced outside or built in house. We will see when they have a few tests published. I am interested to see how they turn out on the road. I have said before competition is good for consumers But brembo also manufacture for example in india for duke 200 but it is a budget brembo. A super cheap one. Like benelli, chinese might be producing them and re badging them as brembo? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App You can put a Shimano gear and brake system on a Huffy, but it'll still be a Huffy. What's a Huffy??? sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) What's a Huffy??? sent from my Q6 A brand of Bicycle Mark Allen use to ride a carbon Huffy that cost over 10k USD to win the Ironman Kona multiple times... Decades ago (1990-1993 I believe ) so maybe not the best example to use in this situation of inferring cheaply built? Edited December 4, 2012 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 my 8000 bht mountain bike from tesco has shimano gears bike made by turbo ,not sure weather it's thai or Chinese made......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 my 8000 bht mountain bike from tesco has shimano gears bike made by turbo ,not sure weather it's thai or Chinese made......lol Tesco only sells overpriced crappy bicycles, Thai or chinese made doesn't matter. And the cheap shimano stuff is for sure not "quality". So Huffy AND Shimano are bad examples My MARIN mountainbike is "Made in China", but "Designed in California". And it has SRAM shifters and deraillers. I am happy with it. Would be more expensive if "Made in USA", but not better quality i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ^ well I don't believe the day has come when I agree with you,yes after I bought the bike I did wonder why I just spent 160 quid on a no name bike from tescos,but any way 4 years down the line it's actually still all working great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ^ You never have done any serious mountain biking with it, have you? But it seems you agree that even (chinese or thai) "crap" can be used sometimes without problems. A bit like comparing a Lifan Cross and a Honda CRF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ^You never have done any serious mountain biking with it, have you? But it seems you agree that even (chinese or thai) "crap" can be used sometimes without problems. A bit like comparing a Lifan Cross and a Honda CRF Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App Serious mountain biking, the bike has never left our plot off land, i only bought it because i started getting fed walking round our the place, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 What's a Huffy??? sent from my Q6 A brand of Bicycle Mark Allen use to ride a carbon Huffy that cost over 10k USD to win the Ironman Kona multiple times... Decades ago (1990-1993 I believe ) so maybe not the best example to use in this situation of inferring cheaply built? I was thinking more the cheap Huffys I used to ride as a kid. Never knew they did high end bikes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Gotta love this thread there so little info or interest in the benneli we are know talking mountain bikes. If wanted to try a serious mountain bike think I try the ones with only 1 fork leg think there called lefty or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Gotta love this thread there so little info or interest in the benneli we are know talking mountain bikes. Well not strictly true, If you read back you see we were discussing Benelli parts it would sport etc. But.......Mai Bpen rai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 switch page in 2 This large pic is making it hard to use this page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mania Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 drats 25 posts per page not 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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