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OK, I told you this is Hit & Run concept can be FLEXIBLE, so now I will stretch that even more.

Here is a hit and run more about a wished for food type.

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Korean Fried Chicken

KFC Gangnam Style?

Korean Fried Chicken is a big deal in Korea and many USA cities. In the U.S., non-Koreans have discovered it as well and it has become a big business.

So why here in Asia's biggest beach city don't we have a visible outlet for Korean Fried Chicken? No, it is not generally found at standard Korean restaurants.

Maybe its available here at Korean nightclubs, bars, but hidden from the non-Korean eyes.

Interestingly some years ago I did see a Korean Chicken joint located right next to this eye clinic:

http://www.pattayaey...le&Id=538635539

I talked to the people there and it seemed all they spoke was Korean and there was only a short Korean menu.

They said 400 baht but couldn't communicate 400 baht for what exactly? It would have helped if there were other customers and I could see what they were selling. I suspect that place was a Korean Fried Chicken outlet. I reckon they aren't there anymore, but maybe they are. Perhaps if you are in the area, you could report about that.

Well, my general point is, why not a more visible specialized Korean Fried Chicken business in Pattaya with English/Thai/Russian menu? It seems that fried chicken is internationally popular, like spaghetti, and there is a huge potential market for a BETTER and DIFFERENT style of fried chicken, which many people think describes KOREAN fried chicken.

http://www.nytimes.c...yt&emc=rss&_r=0

Korean-style fried chicken is radically different, reflecting an Asian frying technique that renders out the fat in the skin, transforming it into a thin, crackly and almost transparent crust. (Chinese cooks call this “paper fried chicken.”) The chicken is unseasoned, barely dredged in very fine flour and then dipped into a thin batter before going into the fryer. The oil temperature is a relatively low 350 degrees, and the chicken is cooked in two separate stages.

More on the trend in the US:

http://clatl.com/atl...ent?oid=1273064

Korean fried chicken has hit Atlanta and the response has been positively cultish. What sets this new-fangled "KFC" apart is the double-frying method that produces a crunchy crust as greaseless as it is light. The manageable chunks of juicy chicken are then tossed in a sauce or served straight up. Most establishments fry each bird to order, so be prepared to wait around 15-20 minutes — a small price to pay for such perfect poultry.

OK, this IS happening in Bangkok.

But not Pattaya.

http://travel.cnn.co...d-korean-694818

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There is a thai restaurant in BKK that is quite popular called Somtam Nua. Their fried chicken is to die for. Nearly every table in there has a basket of it on the table. A place like somtam Nua in pattaya would be a huge hit. In BKK, it's always packed. I'm talking like a wait outside for a tbel packed.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293916-d2055267-Reviews-Somtam_Nua_Siam_Square-Bangkok.html

http://www.thaiaholic.com/details.php?lang=E&tsect_id=1&post_id=246

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OK, I told you this is Hit & Run concept can be FLEXIBLE, so now I will stretch that even more.

Here is a hit and run more about a wished for food type.

****************************************

Korean Fried Chicken

KFC Gangnam Style?

Korean Fried Chicken is a big deal in Korea and many USA cities. In the U.S., non-Koreans have discovered it as well and it has become a big business.

So why here in Asia's biggest beach city don't we have a visible outlet for Korean Fried Chicken? No, it is not generally found at standard Korean restaurants.

Maybe its available here at Korean nightclubs, bars, but hidden from the non-Korean eyes.

Interestingly some years ago I did see a Korean Chicken joint located right next to this eye clinic:

http://www.pattayaey...le&Id=538635539

I talked to the people there and it seemed all they spoke was Korean and there was only a short Korean menu.

They said 400 baht but couldn't communicate 400 baht for what exactly? It would have helped if there were other customers and I could see what they were selling. I suspect that place was a Korean Fried Chicken outlet. I reckon they aren't there anymore, but maybe they are. Perhaps if you are in the area, you could report about that.

Well, my general point is, why not a more visible specialized Korean Fried Chicken business in Pattaya with English/Thai/Russian menu? It seems that fried chicken is internationally popular, like spaghetti, and there is a huge potential market for a BETTER and DIFFERENT style of fried chicken, which many people think describes KOREAN fried chicken.

http://www.nytimes.c...yt&emc=rss&_r=0

Korean-style fried chicken is radically different, reflecting an Asian frying technique that renders out the fat in the skin, transforming it into a thin, crackly and almost transparent crust. (Chinese cooks call this “paper fried chicken.”) The chicken is unseasoned, barely dredged in very fine flour and then dipped into a thin batter before going into the fryer. The oil temperature is a relatively low 350 degrees, and the chicken is cooked in two separate stages.

More on the trend in the US:

http://clatl.com/atl...ent?oid=1273064

Korean fried chicken has hit Atlanta and the response has been positively cultish. What sets this new-fangled "KFC" apart is the double-frying method that produces a crunchy crust as greaseless as it is light. The manageable chunks of juicy chicken are then tossed in a sauce or served straight up. Most establishments fry each bird to order, so be prepared to wait around 15-20 minutes — a small price to pay for such perfect poultry.

OK, this IS happening in Bangkok.

But not Pattaya.

http://travel.cnn.co...d-korean-694818

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I don't know if it resembles Korean fried chicken, but there's a new Japanese counter in the food court at Central Mall. It's the first counter when you come in from the car park, nearest the toilets. They have pieces of fried chicken on the counter they sell for 15 baht each. I find it quite delicious and they can make a nice little salad to go with it.

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In both Korea and Korean FC in the U.S. olive oil (very expensive in Thailand) is typically used plus there is special slower more laborious cooking process. Of course the better places the chicken is cooked to order. That's why this product if its a good version must be priced rather high. Korean FC is a specific thing.

This company is probably the biggest franchise player (it's Korean, not barbeque, Bee Bee Q):

http://www.bbqchickenusa.com/

http://bbdotqusa.com...stCoastMenu.pdf

The "Olive Chicken" section is likely their core offering.

I see they have a Singapore (multiple locations), Malaysia (three locations), and an Asian Pacific website. Coming to Thailand hopefully?

It is being marketed as a "healthier" fried chicken and I think it probably is.

Central Mall seems perfect for them, eh?

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It is being marketed as a "healthier" fried chicken and I think it probably is.

Central Mall seems perfect for them, eh?

I don't mind loading up on fried chicken while keeping dietary carbs low.

Olive oil is too unsaturated to use for cooking. It's too heat sensitive and it can quickly become toxic (oxidized) when heat is applied. It should be consumed fresh. It's far better to use more stable saturated oils for cooking or frying (coconut oil is good). It's such a big marketing con to suggest that these of type of healthy unsaturated oils will produce healthy cooked food.

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I'd have to know a lot more about the actual cooking process for Korean fried chicken with olive oil to have an opinion about what you are suggesting. Maybe they don't heat it very high. I just don't know. I do know they use a different process than standard fast food fried chicken and that it takes a long time to do it. For example, I know that in small Korean fried chicken shops where they are cooking it from scratch you have to wait 30 minutes. I reckon the chains don't do it that way, they are probably constantly cooking to have it ready. Not saying you're wrong. Just don't know.

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Olive oil is very good for cooking, as is canola oil, but virgin or extra virgin olive oil should only be used with cold dishes.

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Olive oil shouldn't get too hot. It gets bitter from that. So it's not really suitable for frying.

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Olive oil shouldn't get too hot. It gets bitter from that. So it's not really suitable for frying.

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Understood. But don't you think businesses that specialize in making fried chicken with olive oil UNDERSTAND how to cook with olive oil and not make their food bitter? I have confidence that they do. I sautee with olive oil all the time, of course not at high heat.

Also it doesn't need to be olive oil to be legit Korean fried chicken. It needs to follow their different technique which is described somewhat in the link before.

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Olive oil shouldn't get too hot. It gets bitter from that. So it's not really suitable for frying.

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Understood. But don't you think businesses that specialize in making fried chicken with olive oil UNDERSTAND how to cook with olive oil and not make their food bitter? I have confidence that they do. I sautee with olive oil all the time, of course not at high heat.

Also it doesn't need to be olive oil to be legit Korean fried chicken. It needs to follow their different technique which is described somewhat in the link before.

that indeed can be assumed >_>

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Olive oil is too unsaturated to use for cooking.

Crazy talk...

You're the crazy talker here...

A mini education.

Unsaturated oils (with unsaturated carbon bonds) are extremely reactive to heat, light and oxygen. Add heat and the unsaturated bonds will immediately become oxidized or cleaved into toxic residue when the heat becomes severe (smoking hot).

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I think no need to make a big thing about olive oil in this space! We don't even have a Korean chicken outlet in town yet (except if that one I saw before is still there and you kind of need to be Korean to eat there anyway). When we get one (I think we will, it's a trend) we don't know yet if they will be using olive oil anyway. So I think this is kind of a back burner thing for now.

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I think no need to make a big thing about olive oil in this space! We don't even have a Korean chicken outlet in town yet (except if that one I saw before is still there and you kind of need to be Korean to eat there anyway). When we get one (I think we will, it's a trend) we don't know yet if they will be using olive oil anyway. So I think this is kind of a back burner thing for now.

That's what happens when I get flamed for explaining scientific fact. As long as I don't get flamed again I'll drop it.

Cheers

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Now, now. This is a HAPPY thread. Where to get tasty vittles. emot-kiss.gif

On that note, mentioned before, but I can flesh it out now as I've been there:

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La Taverna del Passatore

Italian Restaurant, Italian Style

A casual open air Italian bistro style shophouse restaurant. Italian owned and run. Italian customers. Good signs, right? Yes, indeed.

Menu includes appetizers, pastas 200 bahtish plus range (wide choice of pastas including Tagliatelle, an extensive and authentic sophisticated range of sauces, main meat dishes served with choice of potato (pork, fish, chicken, some beef) 200 to 300 bahtish range, and desserts like tiramisu and panacotta (100 bahtish).

Dishes come with some Italian bread.

Also side dishes like spinach, 80 baht.

Also featured: DAILY specials, generally a special of the night pasta and special of the night meat offering.

Location: off Soi Buakow, head south from Soi Lengkee about one block. On the corner to to the right is bar girl cum restaurant called the BIG EASY. Also there is a sign pointing down that soi about the Italian restaurant. Go down that soi a bit, the place is on the right.

I think open for lunch and dinner. Can't confirm exact hours.

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