Robby nz Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Someone mentioned yellow vented bulbuls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unlucky one. Why has it ended up here....can't sing nor handsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unlucky one. Why has it ended up here....can't sing nor handsome. I hate this whole caged-bird business. I work opposite a Pagoda where they are keeping all these birds in cages for people to release to "make merit". Most of these birds will never survive the ordeal; if exhaustion doesn't do them in; the very big resident Shikra population will hammer them. I believe there is at least one Cambodian record that was only ever seen caged (a Bunting if I am not mistaken). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unlucky one. Why has it ended up here....can't sing nor handsome. I hate this whole caged-bird business. I work opposite a Pagoda where they are keeping all these birds in cages for people to release to "make merit". Most of these birds will never survive the ordeal; if exhaustion doesn't do them in; the very big resident Shikra population will hammer them. I believe there is at least one Cambodian record that was only ever seen caged (a Bunting if I am not mistaken). This particular individual was from the carpark area fronting the Tiger temple in Kanchanaburi. I did ask for the owner hoping I could buy its freedom but owner was nowhere to be found. Bad luck for bird. Btw, I refused to pay the extortionate ticket price for entry to the temple and glad I did when I learnt more about the place. Another time I visited an aquarium (can't remember where now) and outside the premises was a similar 'merit making' set up where one buys tiny fish in a plastic bag for 20 Baht. I am then to release the fish into a lake via a chute. Silly me bought a bag and as I poured the contents down the chute, I was horrified by the sight of a school of largish fish at the bottom of the chute snapping up every single fish. All gone in the blink of an eye! Ah well...I've learnt now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unlucky one. Why has it ended up here....can't sing nor handsome. I hate this whole caged-bird business. I work opposite a Pagoda where they are keeping all these birds in cages for people to release to "make merit". Most of these birds will never survive the ordeal; if exhaustion doesn't do them in; the very big resident Shikra population will hammer them. I believe there is at least one Cambodian record that was only ever seen caged (a Bunting if I am not mistaken). This particular individual was from the carpark area fronting the Tiger temple in Kanchanaburi. I did ask for the owner hoping I could buy its freedom but owner was nowhere to be found. Bad luck for bird. Btw, I refused to pay the extortionate ticket price for entry to the temple and glad I did when I learnt more about the place. Another time I visited an aquarium (can't remember where now) and outside the premises was a similar 'merit making' set up where one buys tiny fish in a plastic bag for 20 Baht. I am then to release the fish into a lake via a chute. Silly me bought a bag and as I poured the contents down the chute, I was horrified by the sight of a school of largish fish at the bottom of the chute snapping up every single fish. All gone in the blink of an eye! Ah well...I've learnt now. Jack, even if you are tempted: don't buy the birds. If people stop buying, the practice will stop. I did actually see a sign in Chiang Mai last week that discouraged people from buying birds in Thai, English, and Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unlucky one. Why has it ended up here....can't sing nor handsome. yep... it happens to most species unfortunately. This one is in a neighbour's garden & regarded as a pet or symbol of luck, or something... (he doesn't sing here - can you blame him?) Asian Koel - trapped . i much prefer them where they should be & where they sing beautifully, at least to me they do... Asian Koel - free! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The koels are about the noisiest birds around but lately they all seem to have lost their voices and only just this evening I saw a lone and wet female perched in a bamboo grove. Wonder where the rest have gone to. That caged koel in your pic has fresh wounds around the base of its beak indicating he is still trying to get out. Poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 That caged koel in your pic has fresh wounds around the base of its beak indicating he is still trying to get out. Poor thing. yes.. he flits around in his fairly large cage, but i hate to see him in there. This family are friends of the mrs, so it's hard for me to intervene. They also have a history of caging wild birds... previously including a gorgeous Black-naped Oriole. Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I believe there is at least one Cambodian record that was only ever seen caged (a Bunting if I am not mistaken). pretty sure it was caged birds first appearing in local Burmese markets back in the 80's that led to the rediscovery of Gurney's Pitta (a bird presumed extinct since the 50's for readers here not aware) well before they were found again in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The koels are about the noisiest birds around but lately they all seem to have lost their voices and only just this evening I saw a lone and wet female perched in a bamboo grove. Wonder where the rest have gone to. That caged koel in your pic has fresh wounds around the base of its beak indicating he is still trying to get out. Poor thing. Not breeding season I guess. Why anyone would keep a Koel as a caged bird beats me; the neighbors hate it. Near a hotel I sometimes stay in when in HCMC someone is keeping a Chinese Francolin; it can be heard even over the very noisy HCMC traffic. If I was a neighbor, I'd probably end up strangling both bird and owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 sigh... seen quite a few species caged over the years, this one is in a local Temple. I was told that it had flown here by itself, was sick, and they were just taking care til it got better... . yes.. that is a Great Barbet in there. do i believe the sick visitor story? of course i do...! i also believe in the tooth fairy. (i fear it was sold on for quite a tidy sum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I have seen Vietnamese endemics in Da Lat but the most shocking was in Mandalay where I saw Night-herons, Egrets and Barn Owls crammed in tiny cages. When I asked my Myanmar friend how this reconciles with Buddhism she replied that the vendors were all Muslim (but she failed to continue to say that the buyers were all Buddhist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The koels are about the noisiest birds around but lately they all seem to have lost their voices and only just this evening I saw a lone and wet female perched in a bamboo grove. Wonder where the rest have gone to. That caged koel in your pic has fresh wounds around the base of its beak indicating he is still trying to get out. Poor thing. Not breeding season I guess. Why anyone would keep a Koel as a caged bird beats me; the neighbors hate it. Near a hotel I sometimes stay in when in HCMC someone is keeping a Chinese Francolin; it can be heard even over the very noisy HCMC traffic. If I was a neighbor, I'd probably end up strangling both bird and owner. Like this one: I think it ended up in a pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Cormorants perched in wait.... Thali Noi Lake, Songkhla. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Cormorants perched in wait.... Thali Noi Lake, Songkhla. very nice shot jimmy, like an assembled group of dark assassins... watching & waiting for the final showdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 A question Is this an Ashy Drongo? The book tells me there are anything from 3 to 50 odd sub species depending on who you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sooty-headed Bulbul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sooty-headed Bulbul Nice photo, but Sooty-headed is is not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sooty-headed Bulbul Nice photo, but Sooty-headed is is not..... Not a birder. But, I saw a photo titled as such and the bird could be this guy's twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Google for photos of Yellow-vented Bulbul. Sooty-headed really has a sooty cap and does not have a white eye-brow like this bird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have Robson's guide opened up in front of me but can't decide whether it is: 1) Juvenile Chinese Sparrowhawk 2) Juvenile Besra 3) Juvenile Japanese sparrowhawk. Or none of the above. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have Robson's guide opened up in front of me but can't decide whether it is: 1) Juvenile Chinese Sparrowhawk 2) Juvenile Besra 3) Juvenile Japanese sparrowhawk. Or none of the above. Thanks in advance. Actually the head makes me think Oriental Honeybuzzard but I could be well off the mark; raptors are not my forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack2964 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Not sure myself but this looks like an accipiter. The 4 bands in the tail should help. That is how I arrived at the 3 possible IDs in my first post. But then again I suck with raptors too. Thanks Hanno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 That one should be the Sooty Headed Bulbul Curt. Not a wonderful photo but the only one I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have Robson's guide opened up in front of me but can't decide whether it is: 1) Juvenile Chinese Sparrowhawk 2) Juvenile Besra 3) Juvenile Japanese sparrowhawk. Or none of the above. Thanks in advance. number 3 - Japanese Sparrowhawk (juv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Goshawk, why do you come to that conclusion? Not dounting you, just want to know why as this is a bird I am not familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Great thread here and thanks to all! I am still waiting to see a bird we have lately that has the most beautiful and diverse songs. Its wings and tail slope down, top coat style like a Laughing Thrush, but the colors are different. A greyish bird, it has a white slash along its eyes and no hood. They are very active in the early morning and in the evening, and cavort deep in the trees as a group. Have not gotten even close to getting a photograph of this elusive critter, but I am sure someone will post a photo eventually so will keep watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Great thread here and thanks to all! I am still waiting to see a bird we have lately that has the most beautiful and diverse songs. Its wings and tail slope down, top coat style like a Laughing Thrush, but the colors are different. A greyish bird, it has a white slash along its eyes and no hood. They are very active in the early morning and in the evening, and cavort deep in the trees as a group. Have not gotten even close to getting a photograph of this elusive critter, but I am sure someone will post a photo eventually so will keep watching. What size, T_Dog? And all grey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Great thread here and thanks to all! I am still waiting to see a bird we have lately that has the most beautiful and diverse songs. Its wings and tail slope down, top coat style like a Laughing Thrush, but the colors are different. A greyish bird, it has a white slash along its eyes and no hood. They are very active in the early morning and in the evening, and cavort deep in the trees as a group. Have not gotten even close to getting a photograph of this elusive critter, but I am sure someone will post a photo eventually so will keep watching. What size, T_Dog? And all grey? Slightly larger than a Drongo. Have not gotten a good look at them as they are always deep in the trees. The only time I see them is when they fly to a new tree. Their songs change constantly and they were very vocal earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanno Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Great thread here and thanks to all! I am still waiting to see a bird we have lately that has the most beautiful and diverse songs. Its wings and tail slope down, top coat style like a Laughing Thrush, but the colors are different. A greyish bird, it has a white slash along its eyes and no hood. They are very active in the early morning and in the evening, and cavort deep in the trees as a group. Have not gotten even close to getting a photograph of this elusive critter, but I am sure someone will post a photo eventually so will keep watching. What size, T_Dog? And all grey? Slightly larger than a Drongo. Have not gotten a good look at them as they are always deep in the trees. The only time I see them is when they fly to a new tree. Their songs change constantly and they were very vocal earlier in the year. Hmm. My first thought was Cuckooshrike or Treepie, but neither one has an eyebrow....... Let me think. A photo would be great. Are they high up in the trees? Do they play "follow thy leader"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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