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First, before anyone gets in an uproar, I'm not a racist in any way. I'm just looking for insight here. Save the rhetoric.

I have begun working with a group of Philipinos at a college. We all started together and I am the only NES. I like the school and the students, and they like me, just like at my last school and university.

However, I have 6 Philipinos who have banded together and are causing me problems. I have been verbally attacked by them, including simultaneous yelling and very personal statements. They have decided that they are not going to share information or talk to me. Not that this bothers me, but it does take away from what we could give to the students if we worked in a spirit of cooperation.

The director at the uni told me that my presence creates a threat because they are compared to me, and to "hang in there". I was told of other situations by the director. I was also told by another ajarn that they do stick together and kiss a lot of a$$.

I've done absolutely nothing to warrant this. In fact I have been extremely nice and generous to them.

Anyone with similar experiences?

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So OP ... you're an English Teacher at this College - ... And the Filipinos are English Teachers also....

You are the only Native English Speaker...

Questions: Just trying to get a 'picture' ... lay of the land so to speak...

How many total English Language Teachers are there in the University?

How many of the total English Language Teachers are Filipino?

What nationality is the Director you speak of?

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So OP ... you're an English Teacher at this College - ... And the Filipinos are English Teachers also....

You are the only Native English Speaker...

Questions: Just trying to get a 'picture' ... lay of the land so to speak...

How many total English Language Teachers are there in the University?

How many of the total English Language Teachers are Filipino?

What nationality is the Director you speak of?

Please read the post again.

Edited by sirchai

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So OP ... you're an English Teacher at this College - ... And the Filipinos are English Teachers also....

You are the only Native English Speaker...

Questions: Just trying to get a 'picture' ... lay of the land so to speak...

How many total English Language Teachers are there in the University?

How many of the total English Language Teachers are Filipino?

What nationality is the Director you speak of?

Please read the post again.

I understand the question ... I don't think you understand the dynamics of your situation... thus the reason you have a question.

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In my experience Filipinos can be a bit "catty". They certainly stick together and they dislike NES's because of the salary gap. Most Filipinos think they speak perfect English and thus should be paid the same as an NES.

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So OP ... you're an English Teacher at this College - ... And the Filipinos are English Teachers also....

You are the only Native English Speaker...

Questions: Just trying to get a 'picture' ... lay of the land so to speak...

How many total English Language Teachers are there in the University?

How many of the total English Language Teachers are Filipino?

What nationality is the Director you speak of?

Please read the post again.

I understand the question ... I don't think you understand the dynamics of your situation... thus the reason you have a question.

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I've experienced similar situations. Once we're up to sign our new contracts, a girl from the islands had told me that I can sell my white skin again, by signing a new contract.

They speak Tagalog all day long in the English department, will change it from ERIC to TRIC now. They're certainly in for the money, which they mostly send back to their families.

To the OP's problem: There's not too much you can do about it. Do your job well and don't waste your time trying to make friends with them. Teachers, kids and parents will see that you're different, in a positive way.

You don't have to lick their a@@. Guess it's nationwide.Don't worry, you're not alone.---wai2.gif

Thanks Sirchai, It is the path I have chosen. I appreciate the supportive feedback. wai2.gif

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I was also told by another ajarn that they do stick together and kiss a lot of a$$.
Fact. They basically do anything to secure their income because of financial obligations in the home country.

I take it that they are trying to push you out. That is, you have to make place for one of their cousins, nieces or nephews.

On a sidenote, I consider it as strange that your university employs non-native speakers of English. Talking about the community universities (Rajabhats) or the big private universties in Thailand, I've always been told that the policy was to employ native speakers of English.

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I was also told by another ajarn that they do stick together and kiss a lot of a$$.
Fact. They basically do anything to secure their income because of financial obligations in the home country.

I take it that they are trying to push you out. That is, you have to make place for one of their cousins, nieces or nephews.

On a sidenote, I consider it as strange that your university employs non-native speakers of English. Talking about the community universities (Rajabhats) or the big private universties in Thailand, I've always been told that the policy was to employ native speakers of English.

You're spot on! In my estimation they want to make me look bad and push me out to probably create a vacancy for a fellow Philipinos. Although judging from their behavior not all of them are as family orientated as they would like you to believe.

About the side note; there are two universities that I know of that employ many Philipinos as well as native speakers. I can't divulge their names because I do not want to escalate the matter. In my particular uni there is an ongoing situation between a Phil and a NES that has reached the police level, and I don't need that. The native speaker, by the way, has been around for a coon's age and is not known to get out of line.

Thanks again to all that have offered support. It's good to get things out of your own head, and see what the experiences of others have been. wai2.gif

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Seems that not all schools are happy with what they've got from the islands. Just graduated Thais make 8-9,000 baht/month. A "real" teacher in the Philippines makes around 6,000.

Some of our younger Thai teaching staff have realized that their English isn't as good as it supposed to be, teaching a language like English.

A fresh graduated Thai female teacher was sent into a lesson made by one of them "specialists."

. She wasn't impressed what she saw and her English is considerable very good.

I know a few guys having the same problem(s) with them. Fact is that we don't create such circumstances. They're the ones who're trying to badmouth Westerners, as drunks, druggies and so on.

I speak two other languages, but only use English in the English department. They do not seem to have a problem to speak their and i mean their language all day long. I was never planning to learn it.

Would they be as useful in speaking English to train kids for speech competitions etc, it would be okay. But that seems to be the job for "white" guys who make 2,000 baht more a month.

Many of them are scared shirtless that you white face could take his/her job away. But you should also see the other side of it.

What would you do, born on the islands, with the possibility to become an English teacher in Thailand?

But they should be fair to all others.Good day!

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Sorry to hear about your situation. It's probably very stressful and unpleasant and taking a lot of fun out of going to work. Do what you can to ignore them and to function as though they aren't bothering you. If they don't give you information, find other ways to get it - stay focused on the needs of your students and your class, you will be able to get what you need elsewhere if you do that. Office politics can really make things so unpleasant and unsuccessful. Avoid them to an appropriate degree and don't feed their negativity. Philipinos can be very loving and accepting but it sounds like that's not the case at your school, too bad.

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OP

more than one way to skin a cat....pm me their names and addresses in the Phils....Its not hard to deal with this in a way they will understand....Wont go into details here

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

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I will send them a cute little message in Tagalog that will make their heads spin. I speak it and lived there a long time and have serious connections at several levels... they want to play games? bring it on

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