American Accused Of Unlawful Encounter With 13 Year Old Girl On Pattaya Beach

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American accused of unlawful encounter with 13 year old girl on Pattaya Beach

PATTAYA: -- A 38 year old American was caught in a compromising position with a 13 year old girl after meeting her on Pattaya Beach, early on Tuesday Morning.

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Officers from the Police Region 2 Child and Women Protection Unit were monitoring the 13 year old girl around 4am on Tuesday Morning and were about to detain her and take her into care when they saw an approach by the American, later named as Mr. Neal Rosenthal.

The pair talked for a while and then went back to a Central Pattaya Guest House together.

Police monitored the exchange covertly until the pair arrived at the room. Moments later officers entered the room and found the pair in a state of undress.

Full story: http://www.pattayaon...-pattaya-beach/

-- Pattaya One 2013-01-29

[brewsterbudgen]

In a case like this, is the accused held on remand or given bail?

If convicted, would he be deported (after serving time in Thailand) and, if so, would he face charges in the US?

[rinteln]

What's all this over the top conservative language about. Your city has thousands of prostitutes running around and mass corruption. Your country obviously doesn't mind these activities so just tell it how it is.

As far as the guy is concerned. Lock him up, he is sick !!

[brewsterbudgen]

What's all this over the top conservative language about. Your city has thousands of prostitutes running around and mass corruption. Your country obviously doesn't mind these activities so just tell it how it is.

As far as the guy is concerned. Lock him up, he is sick !!

I believe it's called journalism.

[rinteln]

What's all this over the top conservative language about. Your city has thousands of prostitutes running around and mass corruption. Your country obviously doesn't mind these activities so just tell it how it is.

As far as the guy is concerned. Lock him up, he is sick !!

I believe it's called journalism.

Perhaps, although a kind of journalism I would say.

[jbrain]

Officers from the Police Region 2 Child and Women Protection Unit were monitoring the 13 year old girl around 4am on Tuesday Morning and were about to detain her and take her into care when they saw an approach by the American,

Why do I smell a set up ?

[yummypizza]

This is a hard one, as you all know,it is so hard to judge age here, mothers and daughters look more like sisters, i have guessed 30 year olds as 15 and 13 year olds as over 20, so very hard to define, especially after a few drinks in a place where it is common knowledge you can buy sex, of course there is no excuse for any one who genuinely takes to minors, they should be punished to the full extent of the law!

Edited January 29, 2013 by yummypizza

[Mario2008]

In a case like this, is the accused held on remand or given bail?

If convicted, would he be deported (after serving time in Thailand) and, if so, would he face charges in the US?

Bail is possible, if convicted it means blacklisting.

There will be no charges in the US if he is sentenced in Thailand. You cannot be convicted twice for the same offence. If he would skip bail and flee the country to the US he could face prosecution in the US.

[prestburypark]

Monitoring? I think it means they sent her out to catch a farang out ...why not intervene at the beach and explain that they were "monitoring" her and that she was just 13? Better if they cared about her, surely?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight, and planning to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

Edited January 29, 2013 by WinnieTheKhwai

[jbrain]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

[beano2274]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

Wouldn't think the Police would be out at 4am. I think the timings are the Thai way, they mean 4 hours after 6am which would make it 10am in the morning.

[jbrain]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

Wouldn't think the Police would be out at 4am. I think the timings are the Thai way, they mean 4 hours after 6am which would make it 10am in the morning.

Look at the pictures again, it's still semi dark when they were taken.

[rinteln]

I am normally quite sceptical of the police and to be honest I think they are probably the most incompetent and corrupt bunch i've ever heard of but on this occasion it seems they might of done some good work.

The fact that they seemed to put out a girl who could look older makes me suspicious but I suppose the only reason why they would of set this up is if the guy is a repeat offender.

Edited January 29, 2013 by rinteln

[beano2274]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

Wouldn't think the Police would be out at 4am. I think the timings are the Thai way, they mean 4 hours after 6am which would make it 10am in the morning.

Look at the pictures again, it's still semi dark when they were taken.

Well it surprises me that cops were working at that time of the morning, never see them in Bangkok at that time.

[angsta]

What exactly is an unlawful encounter?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

Wouldn't think the Police would be out at 4am. I think the timings are the Thai way, they mean 4 hours after 6am which would make it 10am in the morning.

Good points by both of you.

So anyway, it's probably fairly pointless debating it at this stage, with the fudge factor called local journalism still in full effect.

Edited January 29, 2013 by WinnieTheKhwai

[beano2274]

Would hope that he got sent back to the US to serve his time, am sure the other prisoners would have a great time with him.

[Tatsujin]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight, and planning to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

That's assuming he knew her real age . . . it can be very hard to tell sometimes here.

Reminder to self: check the girls passport before engaging in conversation or anything else.

[Jingthing]

The story of the way that the police used this girl sounds rather fishy ...

They supposedly wanted to take her into "protection" but instead they "let" her be approached by a suspected pedophile?

How very protective. The suggestions of entrapment are worth considering.

Is this man really a pedophile or was it a bad accident for him? I don't know but if I had to bet money, I would bet the latter.

Edited January 29, 2013 by Jingthing

[hansnl]

Officers from the Police Region 2 Child and Women Protection Unit were monitoring the 13 year old girl around 4am on Tuesday Morning and were about to detain her and take her into care when they saw an approach by the American,

Why do I smell a set up ?

Really?

My thoughts exactly!

[pacovl46]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight, and planning to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

Yeah, it is sick, but you're forgetting one thing: He didn't force her to go back to his room with him. And what was she doing there that late to begin with? Where were the parents? This smells like a big fat set up to me.

[Jingthing]

It's clear the accused was looking for paid sex, admitted or not, the cornerstone of Pattaya's success. It is not clear the man was looking for paid underage sex. So now his life is probably ruined. Those wanting to hang him, are you really that sure he's a real pedo?

Edited January 29, 2013 by Jingthing

[Hunter88]

As long as Pattaya see's sex as a growth industry, this will continue. Sad!

[Colabamumbai]

Obviojusly this girl has done this many times, and more than likely a teenage prostitute. The authorities know that or they would not have been monitoring her. She probably approached the guy.

[Orac]

If it's a setup then that would make me respect the police work even more.

Setup or not, a 13 year old in broad morning daylight and wanting to have sex with her is a very lock-uppable offense no matter what the circumstances.

(Yes I'd take a more sympathetic view if it was a dolled up 15 year old at 3am at some disco.)

So 4 am is broad daylight in your part of Thailand ?

Did you look at the picture of the girl in the article? She's as tall as the officers surrounding her.

I smell a rat.

Wouldn't think the Police would be out at 4am. I think the timings are the Thai way, they mean 4 hours after 6am which would make it 10am in the morning.

Hats off to Howard then for getting the story out 15 minutes before it happenned.

[Psych01]

Now, I am not condoning what he has done, if he knew that she was actually under age. But, the article actually states, "He revealed that he had paid the girl 700 Baht for her to company him to the room but he was told by her that she was 19 years old and Mr. Rosenthal was allegedly unaware of her real age."

So, admitting that he paid the girl to accompany him to the room, puts him trouble anyway. Is he a pedophile? Not sure, as he did ask her her age, problem is he did not ask for proof as in her I.D.

[Jingthing]

I have never heard of anyone being arrested in Thailand for taking a 19 year old to their room for paid sex. No she wasn't 19 years old but if she was, there would be no trouble.

[Baerboxer]

What's all this over the top conservative language about. Your city has thousands of prostitutes running around and mass corruption. Your country obviously doesn't mind these activities so just tell it how it is.

As far as the guy is concerned. Lock him up, he is sick !!

Bit like the country whose flag you cheekily fly! Usual uniformed view of Thailand from a "perfect" nation.

Yes - the peado should be locked up before he molests another child.

[lemoncake]

Police monitored a 13 year old at 4am? What did they think she was doing? looking for a candy shop?