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Phuket expats face tougher work-permit criteria

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The Nation

PHUKET: -- Following complaints by locals that foreigners were snatching their jobs, the Phuket Employment Office has revealed that 8,635 foreigners in the province currently have work permits - most of them from the United Kingdom and working in tourism.

Phuket Employment Office head Yaowapa Pibulpol explained that Phuket was a tourist city, hence its economy depended on hotels, resorts, accessory shops and restaurants.

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Of the 8,635 foreigners with work permits, she said the British number were highest with 1,169 persons, followed by 668 Filipinos, 646 Russians and 554 French citizens.

She said the foreign contingent comprised 2,559 managing directors, 2,452 committee chairpersons, 1,423 office workers, 644 teachers, 439 high-level executives, 182 trainees and 936 others.

In line with new government policy, the Phuket office was applying stricter criteria in issuing work permits, said Yaowapa.

Following locals' complaints that foreigners, particularly Russians, were taking their jobs, police in January found 12 foreigners working in violation of the law. Several were working without a permit, while others were working in professions or locations not covered by their permits.

She said her officials had also publicised information that the foreigners were not permitted to work in certain professions, such as tour guide, masseur, or laundry person. Those caught violating these restrictions face a Bt5,000 fine.

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-- The Nation 2013-02-05

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I went to renew my WP yesterday & all OK except they are now enforcing an existing rule that requires a medical certificate for extensions. I have previously extended many times without needing a medical certificate. The girls at the front counter were about to pass it but then a guy stepped forward & said they need to see a test for 6 diseases. He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

On another note, when doing visa renewal based upon marriage, my wife was informed her ID card had expired & so I do not have my visa yet. She obviously knew it had expired & tried explaining to the new head lady she had been to the Amphur twice for a new card but told they do not have any. Not only that they did not even have the yellow forms they used to issue for people waiting on ID cards. So today she has to get a document endorsed at the Amphur's so I can then retrieve my passport & visa. I live in hope.

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A 5000฿ fine seems almost laughable... mind you, out of over 8000 people they could only come up with 12 people (so far), and none of them where Russians. It seems like there should be more oversight with the current laws rather than stricter criteria. It's hard not be cynical with these sorts of things. It seems that the locals, that are complaining, have started pricing themselves out of the market, you wouldn't think a "laundry person" wouldn't be profitable enough for it to be an attractive occupation.

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RT @RichardBarrow: 8,635 foreigners in Phuket have work permits: British 1,169 people, Filipinos 668, Russians 646 & French 554.

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It should not be the Criteria but the check up afterwards. Which company is strictly doing their core purpose?

A sign of laundry service brings a friend of me 4.000 Thb a month as extra income. I see here restaurants with the wall covered with brochure and prices for day tours. Every hotel offers pick up service from airport, done by their own staff. Tour desk in hotel, laundry service, massage service. A tailor shop who sells scuba diving courses, cultural day tours and has laundry service. I see Ceo's and GM's of foreign companies driving their customers around and take them on guided tours. His girlfriend cooking at home to provide the lunches.

Talking with locals in my area gives me the information that that is the problem. They do not care that you have work permit as CEO, GM or what ever job is written down in your work permit, but stick to this job and do not play as taxi driver, cook, guide etc etc. And hire the Thai staff into your company what is needed to get the permits and visa. The amount of tourism is going up according TAT, well we see a different kind of tourists. They spend less money and this means the locals making less and getting irritated by all this side jobs done by foreigners.

But for me, it should be better controlled, also by TAT and government and not only for foreign business.

Regulations on amount of shops, not every second shop a restaurant or souvenir shop with inside tour desks, laundry service etc etc etc.

With this overkill of same same shops nobody will eventually make money except the land lord.

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A 5000฿ fine seems almost laughable... mind you, out of over 8000 people they could only come up with 12 people (so far), and none of them where Russians. It seems like there should be more oversight with the current laws rather than stricter criteria. It's hard not be cynical with these sorts of things. It seems that the locals, that are complaining, have started pricing themselves out of the market, you wouldn't think a "laundry person" wouldn't be profitable enough for it to be an attractive occupation.

I know of several laundries who emply Vietnamese.

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More food (cash) for the authorities.....the whole system works on "who can pay" and "how much to charge" criteria.....no Russians in the list....mmmm..open to thought

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I went to renew my WP yesterday & all OK except they are now enforcing an existing rule that requires a medical certificate for extensions. I have previously extended many times without needing a medical certificate. The girls at the front counter were about to pass it but then a guy stepped forward & said they need to see a test for 6 diseases. He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

On another note, when doing visa renewal based upon marriage, my wife was informed her ID card had expired & so I do not have my visa yet. She obviously knew it had expired & tried explaining to the new head lady she had been to the Amphur twice for a new card but told they do not have any. Not only that they did not even have the yellow forms they used to issue for people waiting on ID cards. So today she has to get a document endorsed at the Amphur's so I can then retrieve my passport & visa. I live in hope.

Good luck with your medical I bet you are really worried if you happen to have elephantiasis send me a photo

Cheers

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I am so glad to really be RETIRED. To have to work for a <deleted> permit to work. If the Thais don't realize the comfort foreigners have dealing with their own in a very different country and the smooth transition to return again and feel safe and not cheated. i think the competition aspect is good as the baht is getting stronger and other currencies are eroding. Their are many SEA nations where the buck goes a long ways. Oh well this is long term thinking and maybe off the local radar!

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Dear Kingstonkid,

If a friend is visiting me I'm a good host to and I hope that we all do. But that is not what I wrote about.

I go around with friends, they pay the net costs of the tour there is no profit making for me, because they are friends.

And I can not and will not believe that if you have 4 walk in customers in a shop that they all good friends where you take care for.

I see daily GM's going out on guided tours with full paying customers and that is as far as I know not the job of a general manager.

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Khun Robert

A persn taking a guest and showing them their city is not being a t0ur guide it is being a good host. If anyone comes t visit me n matter where I am I do not get a tour guide or take them to a restaurant.

I will always offer accommodations at my house and take them to the places that they want and would like to see.

It is just being a god host. If I have a driver I will have him drive us but other than that there is no difference and with the way that Taxi drivers are ripping people off in Phuket I would definitely not use a local

PS I tell everyone NOT TO GO TO PHUKET

Exactly, of course you look after people that come to visit you, that is not taking jobs.

After visiting Phuket last November it appeared to me that the locals are pricing themselves out.

We did not use any expat guides etc.

After visiting Phuket for many many years it does seem to have gone down a long way in the last 5 years.

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