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Dear Kingstonkid,

If a friend is visiting me I'm a good host to and I hope that we all do. But that is not what I wrote about.

I go around with friends, they pay the net costs of the tour there is no profit making for me, because they are friends.

And I can not and will not believe that if you have 4 walk in customers in a shop that they all good friends where you take care for.

I see daily GM's going out on guided tours with full paying customers and that is as far as I know not the job of a general manager.

Why could he not do it, its his job. Its just jealousy they pay tax they do it all. If your prices were more competitive they would go with you. Problem is Thais dont like competition. Give good service at a fair price and you will always have business.

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A 5000฿ fine seems almost laughable... mind you, out of over 8000 people they could only come up with 12 people (so far), and none of them where Russians. It seems like there should be more oversight with the current laws rather than stricter criteria. It's hard not be cynical with these sorts of things. It seems that the locals, that are complaining, have started pricing themselves out of the market, you wouldn't think a "laundry person" wouldn't be profitable enough for it to be an attractive occupation.

I wonder how many w/p's have been rejected from foreigners wanting to be 'laundry personel'!!!!!! This is laughable to say the least------ Dougal the Kiwi

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He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

I think it's only Stage 3 syphilis. If u've got the other stages u will be just hunky dory.

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RT @RichardBarrow: 8,635 foreigners in Phuket have work permits: British 1,169 people, Filipinos 668, Russians 646 & French 554.

Sounded a lot at first but its only 3037 Farang and that leaves 5598 presumably all Thai------- not a bad share when you consider all the scams and corruption that comes from them------ Dougal the Kiwi

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Dear Kingstonkid,

If a friend is visiting me I'm a good host to and I hope that we all do. But that is not what I wrote about.

I go around with friends, they pay the net costs of the tour there is no profit making for me, because they are friends.

And I can not and will not believe that if you have 4 walk in customers in a shop that they all good friends where you take care for.

I see daily GM's going out on guided tours with full paying customers and that is as far as I know not the job of a general manager.

The job of a GM is to make sure everything runs smoothly.

Have you ever considered the possibility of unreliable or untrustworthy staff or those that don't even bother to turn up on a regular basis.

With the laws here it is nigh on impossible to get rid of them.

I am sure that any GM doesn't want to be guiding tourists as that probably means they are working long extra hours to catch up on all their other duties.

I have many friends with staff problems, demand too much, unreliable etc. It really is a problem.

Sometimes if you don't do the work yourself it wont get done. Result lost customer, bad business.

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Perhaps the article could stop using the word "locals" when they are really referring to the Taxi/tuktuk mafia, most of whom are not locals (not from Phuket), and none of whom work legally. (You need to file a tax return in order to work legally, even if you are Thai, and I bet none of them do).

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I went to renew my WP yesterday & all OK except they are now enforcing an existing rule that requires a medical certificate for extensions. I have previously extended many times without needing a medical certificate. The girls at the front counter were about to pass it but then a guy stepped forward & said they need to see a test for 6 diseases. He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

On another note, when doing visa renewal based upon marriage, my wife was informed her ID card had expired & so I do not have my visa yet. She obviously knew it had expired & tried explaining to the new head lady she had been to the Amphur twice for a new card but told they do not have any. Not only that they did not even have the yellow forms they used to issue for people waiting on ID cards. So today she has to get a document endorsed at the Amphur's so I can then retrieve my passport & visa. I live in hope.

This is a standard requirement and i have had a work permit for 9 years, always have to give a medical certificate cost 50 baht

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I went to renew my WP yesterday & all OK except they are now enforcing an existing rule that requires a medical certificate for extensions. I have previously extended many times without needing a medical certificate. The girls at the front counter were about to pass it but then a guy stepped forward & said they need to see a test for 6 diseases. He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

On another note, when doing visa renewal based upon marriage, my wife was informed her ID card had expired & so I do not have my visa yet. She obviously knew it had expired & tried explaining to the new head lady she had been to the Amphur twice for a new card but told they do not have any. Not only that they did not even have the yellow forms they used to issue for people waiting on ID cards. So today she has to get a document endorsed at the Amphur's so I can then retrieve my passport & visa. I live in hope.

This is a standard requirement and i have had a work permit for 9 years, always have to give a medical certificate cost 50 baht

Applied for WP last month (January 2013). I was not asked for any sort of medical certificate and my WP renewal has been granted. Might be something related to job criteria ?

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RT @RichardBarrow: 8,635 foreigners in Phuket have work permits: British 1,169 people, Filipinos 668, Russians 646 & French 554.

Sounded a lot at first but its only 3037 Farang and that leaves 5598 presumably all Thai------- not a bad share when you consider all the scams and corruption that comes from them------ Dougal the Kiwi

British 1,169 people, Filipinos 668, Russians 646 & French 554.

are the top 4, there are a lot of other countries not listed.

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Just a bit more ludicrous nationalistic nonsense. Just another case of Thais shooting themselves in the foot. When will they realize that Thais are woefully unprepared, and fabulously under qualified for the vast majority of the jobs the foreigners are taking? Perhaps if the locals were to get serious about studying English, Russian, Italian, French, business administration, marketing, accounting, hotel management, food and beverage, wine, and many of the other skills that these foreigners have, there might be some competition. But, if the Thais start pushing out these highly qualified individuals, without getting serious about proper training, and education for their own, they will be killing the very industry that supports them, and allowed Phuket to grow into the place it is today. Oh, sorry, we never thought of that.

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I went to renew my WP yesterday & all OK except they are now enforcing an existing rule that requires a medical certificate for extensions. I have previously extended many times without needing a medical certificate. The girls at the front counter were about to pass it but then a guy stepped forward & said they need to see a test for 6 diseases. He wrote them in Thai & when I got home tried to work them out & came up with leprosy. tuberculosis, elephantiasis but could not work out the other 3. I have since discovered & believe they also check for drug & alcohol addiction along with syphilis. So today am off to get these checked.

On another note, when doing visa renewal based upon marriage, my wife was informed her ID card had expired & so I do not have my visa yet. She obviously knew it had expired & tried explaining to the new head lady she had been to the Amphur twice for a new card but told they do not have any. Not only that they did not even have the yellow forms they used to issue for people waiting on ID cards. So today she has to get a document endorsed at the Amphur's so I can then retrieve my passport & visa. I live in hope.

This is a standard requirement and i have had a work permit for 9 years, always have to give a medical certificate cost 50 baht

Interesting, can you tell me where you go to get my blood test done for the medical (which you need for the WP) ?

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many of the Thai owners (thai chinese) of hotels and restaurants use burmese workers and they are clearly illegal immigrants without work permits. but no one complains.

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9000 ex pats working in tourism in Phuket. I just don't believe it. They need to tighten up the rules on all the flotsam and jetsom ex pats in Thailand generally and boot them out. Too many hangers on here spoiling it for honest and upright ex pats.

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