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University Council Seeks Longer Visas For Foreign Students, Profs: Thailand

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University council seeks longer visas for foreign students, profs

CHULEEPORN ARAMNET

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- The Council of University Presidents of Thailand (CUPT) has vowed to continue pushing for longer visas for foreign lecturers and students.

At present, foreign students in Thailand need to renew their visa every three months, while foreign lecturers also need to renew their visa often.

"We will write to the Foreign Ministry for help," CUPT president Prof Somkid Lertpaithoon said yesterday.

Somkid, who is also the rector of Thammasat University, said the CUPT had already raised this issue with the National Police Office and the Immigration Bureau.

"But the police did not agree with our proposal," he said, adding that granting longer visas would help ease Thailand's entrance into the Asean Community.

Somkid said universities study the qualifications of foreign lecturers and students before recruiting them.

"The government should trust the universities' judgement and adjust visa regulations," he said.

Somkid disclosed that CUPT also planned to ask the government to adjust the salary subsidy granted to foreigners, which was currently fixed at just between Bt20,000 and Bt30,000 per head.

"This rate has been used since 1999, and is very low when compared to the rising cost of living," he said, adding that this low rate made it more difficult for Thai universities to attract well-qualified lecturers.

"The CUPT has already instructed each university to determine the most appropriate amount for subsidy and we will propose the figure," he said.

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-- The Nation 2013-02-21

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Speaking to the admin at my school, 30,000 Baht is a very high wage.

I wonder who is lying to me? whistling.gif

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Isn't the subsidy paid to the university, by the government, while the salary paid to the lecturer is negotiated between the the university and the lecturer ?

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30.000 for a Thai teacher who there not can speak English, yes there is 30.000 a high salary !

But as now, when English "teachers" only get 30-40.000 Baht a month, the schools only attract lower qualified personel !!

Most of these English "Teachers" are not teachers at all, they speak English and teach English, but had never recieved proper Teacher training (TFL or what these few weeks courses are called is nothing, in Europe it take min. 1 full year to qualiyfi to teach kids) !

If the Thai goverment sendt the 10% Teachers best in English abroad ½-1 year under their education, then would the whole English teaching get a big jump upward, as these teachers then could teach the higher classes and the teachers who had the lower grades, then could 1-2 good English teachers at one school, do so much more !!

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30,000 is not that uncommon for a foreign teacher, but I have a Thai friend who is making 60k in an elementary school, so... (yes, that is not a normal salary for Thai teachers - she has completed all the hurdles to get the max teaching certification currently available to Thai teachers)

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How about getting rid of the stupid 90 day reporting whilst they are at it...?

Simply because it provides occupations for the grossly numerous population of government employees. ... and needless to say, revenue.

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30.000 for a Thai teacher who there not can speak English, yes there is 30.000 a high salary !

But as now, when English "teachers" only get 30-40.000 Baht a month, the schools only attract lower qualified personel !!

Most of these English "Teachers" are not teachers at all, they speak English and teach English, but had never recieved proper Teacher training (TFL or what these few weeks courses are called is nothing, in Europe it take min. 1 full year to qualiyfi to teach kids) !

If the Thai goverment sendt the 10% Teachers best in English abroad ½-1 year under their education, then would the whole English teaching get a big jump upward, as these teachers then could teach the higher classes and the teachers who had the lower grades, then could 1-2 good English teachers at one school, do so much more !!

And god help the kids if you are a teacher!giggle.gif

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Speaking to the admin at my school, 30,000 Baht is a very high wage.

I wonder who is lying to me? whistling.gif

Erm, no.

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Somkid disclosed that CUPT also planned to ask the government to adjust the salary subsidy granted to foreigners, which was currently fixed at just between Bt20,000 and Bt30,000 per head.

I'm having trouble believing this figure, not unless it's offset by Filipino teachers. Let's do the low end of the spectrum: Government subsidizes ฿30,000 for a teacher. The Head of the school demands the low end ฿150 baht per class hour taught average 20 hours a week equals ฿3,000. Multiply by a foreign staff of 5 and then 4 weeks in a month, that's ฿60,000 per month for the head.

It's not economically viable for the agencies that pay the tea money to the head for foreign staff; tge agencies would not even exist with these kinds of numbers, Unless the tuition costs are covering it.

Beyond that there is the fundamental issue of the government policy of do as I say not as I do. A foreign company must provide a minimum salary of ฿60,000 a month for the foreigner they are hiring but schools are exempt? Lame.

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This topic refers to University students and lecturers not those in high schools etc. I cannot understand this as students at a university are entitled to apply for one year visas not 3 months. He may be confusing 90 day reporting which is still required.

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How about getting rid of the stupid 90 day reporting whilst they are at it...?

Or a longer extension of stay for people in Thailand for 5 years and more AND the 90-day reporting?

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How about getting rid of the stupid 90 day reporting whilst they are at it...?

Simply because it provides occupations for the grossly numerous population of government employees. ... and needless to say, revenue.

90-day reporting is free......

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How about getting rid of the stupid 90 day reporting whilst they are at it...?

Simply because it provides occupations for the grossly numerous population of government employees. ... and needless to say, revenue.

90 Day reporting costs nothing so how does it provide revenue?

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If you report late, they will hit you with fee's, fines or threaten you with revoking your perfectly

good visa. Back home, the only people who do reporting are those who are on parole from prison.

Amazing Thailand

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