chris2004 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I was in Macro today and noticed that they are selling new LG 50 in TVs for 16,590 baht. That's much less than i've seen anywhere else. A good deal for someone if they are looking to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That will be a plasma presumably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That will be a plasma presumably? Must be I think. I bought one about 6 months ago, possibly the same model, for 22000. It's actually surprisingly good for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiLai Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That will be a plasma presumably? yes plasma but still a pretty good price none the less. i bought a plasma about 8 years ago here from Numchai for just about 100K, was good for 6 years then started playing up so binned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiLai Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Was about the going rate at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) I bought an LG 50 inch Plasma model 50PA4500-TF BTMLLBT at Big C for 18,000 baht 6 months ago. The picture is lovely in a darkened room watching movies. During the day there is quite a lot of glare from the glass screen but you get used to it. ( or shut the curtains ) The sticker on the back says power consumtion is 280 watts, so not too hot, in fact the old 28 inch Sony cathode ray TV it replaced used 170 watts. Edited March 11, 2013 by johng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It probably wont be so much as an upgrade but a non-full HD, Plasma. But if all you got at home is something like Sophon cable, then you don't really need full HD anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The cheap plasma models I have seen in Macro are indeed 1080p and have all the other features one would expect. As far as I know they are cheap because manufacturers are winding down the production of plasma models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The cheap plasma models I have seen in Macro are indeed 1080p and have all the other features one would expect. As far as I know they are cheap because manufacturers are winding down the production of plasma models. Then that seems a very very good buy if it is 1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The cheap plasma models I have seen in Macro are indeed 1080p and have all the other features one would expect. As far as I know they are cheap because manufacturers are winding down the production of plasma models. The cheap LG plasma's at Makro are Model 50PT250R 720P 1366 x 768. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The cheap plasma models I have seen in Macro are indeed 1080p and have all the other features one would expect. As far as I know they are cheap because manufacturers are winding down the production of plasma models. The cheap LG plasma's at Makro are Model 50PT250R 720P 1366 x 768. Thought as much.. not a great deal but still OK if you don't intend to use it for anything HD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room... I agree. They get very very hot and also cost way more to run then an LED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The ones that I saw in Makro were 1080p but they were a bit more expensive and a bit smaller. It was a while ago though and so at some point I still expect the price to go down and the screen size to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room... I agree. They get very very hot and also cost way more to run then an LED. Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricklev Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I recently bought a 50 inch lg plasma. All things considered it hit the price/value sweet spot for me. Very pleased with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGD Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've got 2 x 50 inch plasmas, one LG and one Panasonic. Far better than LCD for moving images and blacks. If buying again, I'd go for 60 inches if the price was right but never go below 50 inches again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room... Most of the new plasmas use less power than the old TV's... A big 50" will use less power than an old 29". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've got 2 x 50 inch plasmas, one LG and one Panasonic. Far better than LCD for moving images and blacks. If buying again, I'd go for 60 inches if the price was right but never go below 50 inches again. It just depends on how far away you are from the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room... I agree. They get very very hot and also cost way more to run then an LED. Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV. I did a cost analysis with real TV's and numbers. You'll never recoup the additional expense of an LED LCD TV by electricity saved - it's impossible.... not even close. That's merely a marketing gimmick that everyone seems to fall for. The newer plasmas are using a lot less power than the older models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV. It's not just the extra electricity they use, it's the extra electricity your aircon uses to cool the room down again. I always had plasmas in Europe because the picture was indeed much better and for half the year the extra warmth was a good thing. Now that LCD picture quality has improved the combination of general wastefulness, extra electricity costs and portability, and availability/choice made me buy an LCD here, and on most digital signals it is very hard to tell the difference. Analogue Sophon cable always looks crap anyway, so not much to be gained there by having a plasma. The main reason that shops (and wholesalers and manufacturers) like LCD screens is because they can stack them flat and they are very hard to damage when inside their boxes. Plasmas are much more fragile and difficult to store/move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV. It's not just the extra electricity they use, it's the extra electricity your aircon uses to cool the room down again. I always had plasmas in Europe because the picture was indeed much better and for half the year the extra warmth was a good thing. Now that LCD picture quality has improved the combination of general wastefulness, extra electricity costs and portability, and availability/choice made me buy an LCD here, and on most digital signals it is very hard to tell the difference. Analogue Sophon cable always looks crap anyway, so not much to be gained there by having a plasma. The main reason that shops (and wholesalers and manufacturers) like LCD screens is because they can stack them flat and they are very hard to damage when inside their boxes. Plasmas are much more fragile and difficult to store/move. Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv? The only reason LCD was developed is because it could be produced in smaller sizes. The smallest Plasma is 40". Of course it has some advantage in power consumption, but plasma has improved significantly where a current 40" plasma uses 196W compared to 110W for a same size lcd. However LCD neither LED, which is basically an LCD with a different way of light projection, are not able to compete with plasma in the field of picture quality. Plasma gives much better blacks,much better contrasts and more crispy colors, which are the most important factors when watching movies. Also the response ( refresh) time and input lag of an lcd is much higher than Plasma which can be a disadvantage in fast moving sports and games. Regarding the heat, I have 6 plasma screens installed in my house ranging 50 - 60 ". The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 +1 for plasma, I bought a 50" HD Samsung end of last year for app. 25K bath and are very happy with it. Only thing slight annoying is the back glare, so have to pull the curtains behind the sofa in day light. I haven't noticed any increase in electric bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potosi Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Above 42" anything below 1080p is out of question, and Plasma TV with this resolution were unavailable until most recently. Yeah Sophon still is ancient NTSC, but I can suck lots of HDTV from the internet. Seems the differences in energy consumption are greater than stated above, and there is also the weight issue of Plasma TV if it's considered to put it on a wall. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387377,00.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Above 42" anything below 1080p is out of question, and Plasma TV with this resolution were unavailable until most recently. Yeah Sophon still is ancient NTSC, but I can suck lots of HDTV from the internet. Seems the differences in energy consumption are greater than stated above, and there is also the weight issue of Plasma TV if it's considered to put it on a wall. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387377,00.asp The comparison about power usage in the link you provided is about Led BACKLIT vs plasma. Led backlit is a completely different animal from the Led edge lit panels that are available in Thailand. Probably it will be possible to purchase a Backlit in a specialised shop in Bangkok, but keep in mind that you will not see them in any Powerbuy or Makro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv? You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct. That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed. You did check the temperature difference on a digital thermometer with a decimal point, right? Room temperatures fluctuate whether TVs are on or off. Day temperatures slowly increase and night time temperatures slowly decrease. There's no way to determine if a TV has increased the temperature of a room over a 3-4 hour period because there are far too many variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv? You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct. That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing. Sure, manufacturers switch to a lower quality picture and far more expensive alternative because they can stack them higher. By the way the reason that plasma's can't be laid horizontal is because the panel exists of many small tubes, so a panel can get damaged from only it's own weight. Edited March 13, 2013 by jbrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed. You did check the temperature difference on a digital thermometer with a decimal point, right? Room temperatures fluctuate whether TVs are on or off. Day temperatures slowly increase and night time temperatures slowly decrease. There's no way to determine if a TV has increased the temperature of a room over a 3-4 hour period because there are far too many variables. Yes there is a digital thermometer fixed mounted in his bedroom with a inside and outside sensor. So when the windows are open and the inside temperature is less than 2 degrees higher than the outside temperature, than i think the temperature increase of the plasma panel is negligible. Edited March 13, 2013 by jbrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv? You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct. That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing. Oh dear, do you know when they will stop making Plasma tv's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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