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I recently bought a 50 inch lg plasma. All things considered it hit the price/value sweet spot for me. Very pleased with it.

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I've got 2 x 50 inch plasmas, one LG and one Panasonic. Far better than LCD for moving images and blacks. If buying again, I'd go for 60 inches if the price was right but never go below 50 inches again.

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It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room...

Most of the new plasmas use less power than the old TV's... A big 50" will use less power than an old 29".

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I've got 2 x 50 inch plasmas, one LG and one Panasonic. Far better than LCD for moving images and blacks. If buying again, I'd go for 60 inches if the price was right but never go below 50 inches again.

It just depends on how far away you are from the screen.laugh.png

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It's quite a lot to pay for a 50" heat radiator in the room...

I agree. They get very very hot and also cost way more to run then an LED.

Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV.

I did a cost analysis with real TV's and numbers. You'll never recoup the additional expense of an LED LCD TV by electricity saved - it's impossible.... not even close. That's merely a marketing gimmick that everyone seems to fall for. The newer plasmas are using a lot less power than the older models.

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Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV.

It's not just the extra electricity they use, it's the extra electricity your aircon uses to cool the room down again.

I always had plasmas in Europe because the picture was indeed much better and for half the year the extra warmth was a good thing. Now that LCD picture quality has improved the combination of general wastefulness, extra electricity costs and portability, and availability/choice made me buy an LCD here, and on most digital signals it is very hard to tell the difference. Analogue Sophon cable always looks crap anyway, so not much to be gained there by having a plasma.

The main reason that shops (and wholesalers and manufacturers) like LCD screens is because they can stack them flat and they are very hard to damage when inside their boxes. Plasmas are much more fragile and difficult to store/move.

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Yes they do get hot and use more electricity but as they cost about 20,000 Baht less than the LED versions it takes a long time to get back the extra outlay. Something like 7 years at 10 hours a day and I for one watch nothing like that much TV.

It's not just the extra electricity they use, it's the extra electricity your aircon uses to cool the room down again.

I always had plasmas in Europe because the picture was indeed much better and for half the year the extra warmth was a good thing. Now that LCD picture quality has improved the combination of general wastefulness, extra electricity costs and portability, and availability/choice made me buy an LCD here, and on most digital signals it is very hard to tell the difference. Analogue Sophon cable always looks crap anyway, so not much to be gained there by having a plasma.

The main reason that shops (and wholesalers and manufacturers) like LCD screens is because they can stack them flat and they are very hard to damage when inside their boxes. Plasmas are much more fragile and difficult to store/move.

Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai laugh.png Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv?

The only reason LCD was developed is because it could be produced in smaller sizes. The smallest Plasma is 40".

Of course it has some advantage in power consumption, but plasma has improved significantly where a current 40" plasma uses 196W compared to 110W for a same size lcd.

However LCD neither LED, which is basically an LCD with a different way of light projection, are not able to compete with plasma in the field of picture quality.

Plasma gives much better blacks,much better contrasts and more crispy colors, which are the most important factors when watching movies. Also the response ( refresh) time and input lag of an lcd is much higher than Plasma which can be a disadvantage in fast moving sports and games.

Regarding the heat, I have 6 plasma screens installed in my house ranging 50 - 60 ". The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed.

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+1 for plasma, I bought a 50" HD Samsung end of last year for app. 25K bath and are very happy with it.

Only thing slight annoying is the back glare, so have to pull the curtains behind the sofa in day light.

I haven't noticed any increase in electric bills.

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Above 42" anything below 1080p is out of question, and Plasma TV with this resolution were unavailable until most recently. Yeah Sophon still is ancient NTSC, but I can suck lots of HDTV from the internet.

Seems the differences in energy consumption are greater than stated above, and there is also the weight issue of Plasma TV if it's considered to put it on a wall. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387377,00.asp

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Above 42" anything below 1080p is out of question, and Plasma TV with this resolution were unavailable until most recently. Yeah Sophon still is ancient NTSC, but I can suck lots of HDTV from the internet.

Seems the differences in energy consumption are greater than stated above, and there is also the weight issue of Plasma TV if it's considered to put it on a wall. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387377,00.asp

The comparison about power usage in the link you provided is about Led BACKLIT vs plasma. Led backlit is a completely different animal from the Led edge lit panels that are available in Thailand.

Probably it will be possible to purchase a Backlit in a specialised shop in Bangkok, but keep in mind that you will not see them in any Powerbuy or Makro.

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Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai laugh.png Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv?

You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct.

That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing.

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The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed.

You did check the temperature difference on a digital thermometer with a decimal point, right?

Room temperatures fluctuate whether TVs are on or off. Day temperatures slowly increase and night time temperatures slowly decrease. There's no way to determine if a TV has increased the temperature of a room over a 3-4 hour period because there are far too many variables.

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Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai laugh.png Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv?

You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct.

That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing.

Sure, manufacturers switch to a lower quality picture and far more expensive alternative because they can stack them higher.

By the way the reason that plasma's can't be laid horizontal is because the panel exists of many small tubes, so a panel can get damaged from only it's own weight.

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The 50" plasma in the boy's bedroom will after playing for 3-4 hours raise the temperature in the room by approximate 1 degree celcius. This is with aircon off and only using fan at the lowest speed.

You did check the temperature difference on a digital thermometer with a decimal point, right?

Room temperatures fluctuate whether TVs are on or off. Day temperatures slowly increase and night time temperatures slowly decrease. There's no way to determine if a TV has increased the temperature of a room over a 3-4 hour period because there are far too many variables.

Yes there is a digital thermometer fixed mounted in his bedroom with a inside and outside sensor.

So when the windows are open and the inside temperature is less than 2 degrees higher than the outside temperature, than i think the temperature increase of the plasma panel is negligible.

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Yeah right, they stack the lcd's 10 high at Numchai laugh.png Ever heard that there are glass panels in an lcd tv?

You dont seem to know anything about warehouse storage and flat panels. Do some research and you will find that I am correct.

That material you refer to as glass in an LCD is in fact plastic and as such can be stacked flat, often up to 10 high per palette. It is not fragile at all. Plasmas on the other hand have a glass layer that must be stored and transported (nearly) upright, and is much more fragile. This is why manufacturers and stores prefer LCD/LED/OLED over plasma, and this is why plasma production is ceasing.

Oh dear, do you know when they will stop making Plasma tv's ?

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