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You're Fired (Part Two)

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Following on from a topic I placed here the other day "YOU'RE FIRED".

Thank you for all the comments, this has really given me a lot to think about and really opened up my mind for many ways I can act if this happens to me again. At present I am still at the school for the last week but I'm looking for other work as I no longer wish to work here due to the way they treated me and the other teacher. I am still worried that my last pay at the end of April will not be paid to me but as I am planning on staying here in Thailand, taking legal action is an option about this as I will have plenty of time to wait for an outcome. This is my first year in the country and I am disappointed with the way the school has acted as they gave me no warning or showed me no compassion in there actions.

Thank you to everyone who's advice I will act upon and I hope that by working together we can stop schools acting this way against foreign teachers who they think will just come and go, I think they forget that we are here to stay and not just passing through this country and we have plenty of time to act.

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I don't get it - you successfully secured another contract, you probably will get paid, why find another job?

I've lived here for twelve years and the problem you had (past tense!) as just a little speed bump in the road.

Who knows what'll await you at your nexy job at a different school?

If there are no other serious problems I recommend to stay.

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I am going to leave as I have already taken the action to do so. My new job offer gives me and extra 5,000 baht a month and bonus at the end the contract. Yes I don't know what awaits me in my new job but this school has made me feel so low and I'm not prepared to let them make me feel this way again.

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I'm still amazed how, at the confrontational meeting you had with school staff, you got them to change their mind and they offered you a new contract. Seems to violate basic rules of Thai-ness and I don't know how you pulled it off.

I can understand your desire to change jobs, feeling unappreciated in your present position. I myself have done the same thing in the American workforce. Hope you find what you're looking for in the new job and the extra salary certainly won't hurt.

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In the meeting I simply listened to them and agreed with there points and then talked to them giving my own ideas and giving them the idea that they were there own. It's hard to go against an idea that you think is your own. The other teacher may not of know how to do this and I had the feeling as I saw him walk into the meeting that they were going to try to firer him instead. I know I was lucky to do what I did but what's to stop them doing this again and I may not be able to talk them around the next time.

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Well you have another years visa if you stay at the same school, plus during that year it will give you time to build up a nice portfolio and the chance to put feelers out for a new school come this time next year. If you quit you are being a real ass-hole to the guy that got canned. They offered you the job and kicked him to the curb..........and now you want to just walk away from the job that could have gone to him. Either you are very smart, just dumb or not a nice person. If you are really going to quit let the old school know this now so that the other guy has a chance to get his old job back!

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I have heard about things like this before, but usually it is a matter of a school having too many teachers and having to let someone go.

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My thoughts are op is not a nice person. He has not been here long enough to understand thais and thai culture.

Money is not the only thing in life, To hell with the school, i am going for more money, what about job satisfaction caring about the children.

Ithink op is selfish , arrogant thinks only me me me.

In time you will learn to understand thai people i hope you learn before it is to late.

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Hey I do care about the children, I think you miss understand what this is about. I really do not feel that the way they talked to me was fair and not air to the other teacher. You say this is Thai culture, I do not think so, you think Thai people acting like this is normal? I think you need to find new Thai friends and Thai people to spend your time with.

My girlfriend is Thai and whenever she hears people say its Thai style she gets really unhappy, this is not thai style this is just a group of people who don't care about others and think we are an easy target.

And about money, well yes it's not everything but when it comes to been able to buy a plane ticket or travel to a nice hotel on your holidays, buy the food I like and the clothing I like. Then yes it matters.

I'm not moving because of money, I'm moving because I don't feel happy working in this school anymore.

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But you managed to keep your job - I think from now on they won't mess that easily with you. You defended yourself, you kept your job, and the whole school was watching. Even the lowest assistant teacher will hear that story!

To leave because "they made you feel bad" or that they were "not fair" shows that you are new to Thailand.

What do you think how long it will take at a new job to "make you feel bad"? If I got one baht for every curse word of foreign teachers I met who were treated unfairly it would pay for a nice vacation!

At the new job you have to establish yourself again. I think you were very lucky to win the first time, those people must have been some push-overs. It may well be different the next time! And one thing is guaranteed: there will be a next time!

I can see your post in about three months: "Feeling bad - being treated unfairly at my new job"...

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In the meeting I simply listened to them and agreed with there points and then talked to them giving my own ideas and giving them the idea that they were there own. It's hard to go against an idea that you think is your own.

Ahhh, the old Jedi mind trick. Well done! :-)

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Yes I understand what you are saying and yes this is my first year here in Thailand. But I'm planning on staying and I think I will have to establish myself wherever I go if what I'm hearing here about Thai people. But the Thai people I have met outside of my job have been good to me and I trust that they are not bad people.

I have a teacher at the school I'm leaving who feels the same as what you guys have told me, so I believe that there must be a lot of bad Thai bosses but I will have to keep doing what I'm doing, work hard and be a good teacher.

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Yes I understand what you are saying and yes this is my first year here in Thailand. But I'm planning on staying and I think I will have to establish myself wherever I go if what I'm hearing here about Thai people. But the Thai people I have met outside of my job have been good to me and I trust that they are not bad people.

I have a teacher at the school I'm leaving who feels the same as what you guys have told me, so I believe that there must be a lot of bad Thai bosses but I will have to keep doing what I'm doing, work hard and be a good teacher.

Of course Thai people are not bad people, they just have this canny ability to make the wrong decisions which leaves you and me up a certain creek.

The teacher who feels as we do must be an experienced teacher!

Good luck to you!

But hang on, you just were lucky, come to think of it. The other teacher wasn't. He would have loved to keep the job you now throw away. Maybe it's time for some Thai-reality.

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My thoughts are op is not a nice person. He has not been here long enough to understand thais and thai culture.

Money is not the only thing in life, To hell with the school, i am going for more money, what about job satisfaction caring about the children.

Ithink op is selfish , arrogant thinks only me me me.

In time you will learn to understand thai people i hope you learn before it is to late.

I think you are wrong regarding YOUR points. coffee1.gif

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