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Was he in possession of a spear-fishing license???

I thought it was illegal to spear fish with scuba in Phuket and most of Thailand.

Let us give him a fine then w00t.gif RIP to the poor guy.

Since he was not using scuba equipment a fine is not appropriate.

Looking at the thread, as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details, or even having a general understanding of diving.

RIP.

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Hmm...here is my 2 cents worth...

If he was an scuba OR free diver he would have been wearing a weight belt.

So why did his body float into Kata beach...

And where is his weight belt?

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Was he in possession of a spear-fishing license???

I thought it was illegal to spear fish with scuba in Phuket and most of Thailand.

Let us give him a fine then w00t.gif RIP to the poor guy.

Since he was not using scuba equipment a fine is not appropriate.

Looking at the thread, as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details, or even having a general understanding of diving.

RIP.

“It appears from his scuba suit and equipment that he was an experienced diver. We know that he had dived in the area before, said Pol Lt Col Pachai Mattayan of Karon Police."

I'm not a diver, but I can read. I read this to be he was wearing his wetsuit and scuba gear - at the time of the dive. What makes you think he wasn't? Why take it on the boat if you are not going to use it?

Granted, it's a bit hard to be "found floating of Kata Beach" with scuba gear on, but at some desperate stage, I'm sure he would have taken his weight belt off.

Anyway, my orginal question still stands - whether it was a scuba or free dive - what about the boat and crew?

I know you are diver - wouldn't they know something is wrong when he hasn't surfaced within a certain timeframe, and that timeframe is within certain air-use tollerances. That means, he would still have some minutes of air left, and therefore still would be alive. Wouldn't you then send down some sort of makeshift "rescue/search" divers at that point?

As for a free dive - obviously, way less time to render assistance, but also less risk.

I'm freely admitting my ignorance of the sport, but happy to learn about it.

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Was he in possession of a spear-fishing license???

I thought it was illegal to spear fish with scuba in Phuket and most of Thailand.

Let us give him a fine then w00t.gif RIP to the poor guy.

Since he was not using scuba equipment a fine is not appropriate.

Looking at the thread, as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details, or even having a general understanding of diving.

RIP.

“It appears from his scuba suit and equipment that he was an experienced diver. We know that he had dived in the area before, said Pol Lt Col Pachai Mattayan of Karon Police."

I'm not a diver, but I can read. I read this to be he was wearing his wetsuit and scuba gear - at the time of the dive. What makes you think he wasn't? Why take it on the boat if you are not going to use it?

Granted, it's a bit hard to be "found floating of Kata Beach" with scuba gear on, but at some desperate stage, I'm sure he would have taken his weight belt off.

Anyway, my orginal question still stands - whether it was a scuba or free dive - what about the boat and crew?

I know you are diver - wouldn't they know something is wrong when he hasn't surfaced within a certain timeframe, and that timeframe is within certain air-use tollerances. That means, he would still have some minutes of air left, and therefore still would be alive. Wouldn't you then send down some sort of makeshift "rescue/search" divers at that point?

As for a free dive - obviously, way less time to render assistance, but also less risk.

I'm freely admitting my ignorance of the sport, but happy to learn about it.

Apparently he was freediving, spearfishing, alone from a longtail. His wife and longtail captain were on the boat, when he did not surface they sounded the alarm, but without proper equipment your options are very limited at that point.

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Reports from other sources state he was free diving wearing a wetsuit, no scuba gear.

He apparently made several consecutive dives and on the final one failed to surface. This has all the indications of what is known as a 'shallow water blackout'.

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Hmm...here is my 2 cents worth...

If he was an scuba OR free diver he would have been wearing a weight belt.

So why did his body float into Kata beach...

And where is his weight belt?

Not necessarily.

And in case of problems ditching a weightbelt is one thing that can be done to assist with the problem.

So yes, should be looked in to, but there is a good chance he was not wearing one in the first place.

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Hmm...here is my 2 cents worth...

If he was an scuba OR free diver he would have been wearing a weight belt.

So why did his body float into Kata beach...

And where is his weight belt?

Not necessarily.

And in case of problems ditching a weightbelt is one thing that can be done to assist with the problem.

So yes, should be looked in to, but there is a good chance he was not wearing one in the first place.

Google 'shallow water blackout'. You would not have the chance to ditch a weightbelt, you blackout without warning.

A dead body will start to produce gas which causes the body to bloat so increasing it's bouyancy, so yes he could sink initially and float up later.

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Hmm...here is my 2 cents worth...

If he was an scuba OR free diver he would have been wearing a weight belt.

So why did his body float into Kata beach...

And where is his weight belt?

Not necessarily.

And in case of problems ditching a weightbelt is one thing that can be done to assist with the problem.

So yes, should be looked in to, but there is a good chance he was not wearing one in the first place.

Google 'shallow water blackout'. You would not have the chance to ditch a weightbelt, you blackout without warning.

A dead body will start to produce gas which causes the body to bloat so increasing it's bouyancy, so yes he could sink initially and float up later.

I know about shallow water blackout, thank you. Yes, could have happened here, and he could have been wearing a weightbelt, but he could also not have been wearing a weightbelt and there could have been another cause. Even with weightbelt the body could have been brought in by the tide.

We don't know,so speculating here is simply pointless.

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Reports from other sources state he was free diving wearing a wetsuit, no scuba gear.

He apparently made several consecutive dives and on the final one failed to surface. This has all the indications of what is known as a 'shallow water blackout'.

It also "has all the indications of what is known as a heart attack" and a "brain aneurysm" and a "stroke" etc etc etc etc - only a proper autopsy will reveal the true cause of death.

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Reports from other sources state he was free diving wearing a wetsuit, no scuba gear.

He apparently made several consecutive dives and on the final one failed to surface. This has all the indications of what is known as a 'shallow water blackout'.

It also "has all the indications of what is known as a heart attack" and a "brain aneurysm" and a "stroke" etc etc etc etc - only a proper autopsy will reveal the true cause of death.

You would make a fantastic detective wai.gif

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Reports from other sources state he was free diving wearing a wetsuit, no scuba gear.

He apparently made several consecutive dives and on the final one failed to surface. This has all the indications of what is known as a 'shallow water blackout'.

Some one knows his stuff.

10m on a lung of air is easy with fins. I am not a physician, but I believe on ascent as the lungs expand, they can draw out too much oxygen inn the blood causing the aforesaid black out.

Snorkelling where u dive holding ur breath should not be done alone

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Highly doubtfull that he was not wearing a weight belt as one thing we do know for sure is that he was wearing a wet suit which will provide positive bouyancy which requires a weight belt to be worn in order to attain neutral or negative bouyancy. Most free diving spear fishers use negative bouyancy in order to gain rapid decent and as such it is highly unlikely that intestinal gasses would overcome this excess weight in such a short time frame. Had he got into trouble in free water and ditched his belt he would have had come to the surface regardless an most probably in sight of the boat. There is so littlre substantive data in this article (as usaul) that it is almost impossible to determine the prevailing circumstances.

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Was he in possession of a spear-fishing license???

I thought it was illegal to spear fish with scuba in Phuket and most of Thailand.

Let us give him a fine then w00t.gif RIP to the poor guy.

Since he was not using scuba equipment a fine is not appropriate.

Looking at the thread, as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details, or even having a general understanding of diving.

RIP.

the article states, “It appears from his scuba suit and equipment that he was an experienced diver . . ."

as you so eloquently put it, " . . . . as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details . . ."

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Was he in possession of a spear-fishing license???

I thought it was illegal to spear fish with scuba in Phuket and most of Thailand.

Let us give him a fine then w00t.gif RIP to the poor guy.

Since he was not using scuba equipment a fine is not appropriate.

Looking at the thread, as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details, or even having a general understanding of diving.

RIP.

the article states, “It appears from his scuba suit and equipment that he was an experienced diver . . ."

as you so eloquently put it, " . . . . as usual lots of people weighing in without knowing any of the details . . ."

Look at other news sources and you'll find that he was not wearing scuba equipment but was freediving. And no speculating at all from me in this thread.

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