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So if you rent a house and relatives come to stay with you what is the requirement there?

Why is this topic causing so much confusion. If you rent the house you ARE NOT the owner, so it's not your responsibility to tell immigration of the foreigner staying there.. it's the responsibility of the OWNER.

Even if you rent, lease or have an usufruct you are still not the legal owner.

No, as head of the household it's your responsibility.

According to section 38 of the 1979 immigration act, "House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels who accommodate foreign nationals on a temporary basis who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national." If there is no immigration office in the province or locality of the respective house or hotel, the notification is made to the local police station. In Bangkok the notification is made to the Immigration Bureau. The notification of residence of foreign nationals is made by the manager of licensed hotels according to the hotel act, owners of guesthouses, mansions, apartments and rented houses using the form TM. 30.

The notification of residence of foreign nationals within 24 hours can be made in a number of ways to make the notification as convenient as possible:

In person at the respective office, or

Through an authorised person at the respective office, or

By registered mail, or

Via internet.

do you or anybody else know where to get that form TM30, is it downloadable from the internet somewhere or does it have to be picked up from the immigration office or the like?

Thank you

Edit: sorry just saw that there is already a link posted

Edited by PCA

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the 8,000 baht a day fine is for guesthoses and hotels

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I think it's great to know where everyone is

Especially in the case of missing persons

However, I doubt this make any difference

I've been in thailand on and off since 2003 and only been asked a few times for my licence or Passport

Maybe a lot of paperwork for the thai Authorities

Suppose it may reduce police checkpoints

They'd have something else to do

Hence bigger fines than RT

Thumbs up I'm in support of this being widely enforced

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I remember all this in China. The thing there was that every place we stayed (guesthouse, hotel, etc) had a method to report this information through a website. For them to report our stay took about 20 seconds and, in some cases, was integrated into in-house billing solutions.

What chances are there of this happening in Thailand? More likely is that pockets will be filled and the newly fattened officers will switch off and sleep off their excesses and we can all rest easy again.....until next time.

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Crazy law, trying to track where 22 million international guests (in 2012) stayed every night for an average length of 9 nights.

That's 198,000,000 records.................................................. Nationwide.

500,000 per day over 50 immigrations offices...................... Nationwide.

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What a sense to fill out the TM6 on arrival with address we stay included and eg. after between 24 hrs run to the immigration what takes a lot of time in Bangkok !!! This or that, both make nonsense

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This is crazy. None of this is computerized. This is just a useless mountain of paper that exists somewhere.

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Am I only one who remember the fine is 2,000b and not per day? Just one payment, no matter how long foreigner has stayed. Thought I read that in this forum long ago.

This correct it is 2000 bht not 8,000 saying that we are talking phuket here so maybe its different there:ph34r:

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http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/doc/Immigration_Act.pdf

Chapter 4
Temporary Stay in the Kingdom

Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager
where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the
competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or
hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office
located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified.


Chapter 8
Penalty

Section 77 : Whoever fails to comply with the provision of Section 38, shall be punished with a fine not
exceeding 2,000 Baht. If said person is a hotel manager, he shall be punished with a fine from 2,000 Baht
to 10,000 Baht.

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Okay lets take this one step further...

If you are living in Thailand, does this concern to Everyone?

You have retirement Visa...

You report every 90 Days at Immigration...

You are living in your Family Home...

Does your wife have to report you are living here? Would you not normally living in same house as your Spouse? This is already reported every 90 days on form submitted each time at Immigration...

Our is this another way to have some Official pocket 8,000 Baht?

Why do people here always look for non existent problems?

This is meant for guesthouses and hotels who are required to report names and passport numbers of their guests, I think also visa information. This is not meant for expats, and I would expect that also people having family over for a week and not reporting the required information will not be fined.

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*scratches head*

so... if someone owns a house through the company route... does he, as the company director, have to report himself to immigration?

"House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels who accommodate foreign nationals on a temporary basis who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national."

As head of household, yes.

Depends if he entered as a tourist or not.

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Okay lets take this one step further...

If you are living in Thailand, does this concern to Everyone?

You have retirement Visa...

You report every 90 Days at Immigration...

You are living in your Family Home...

Does your wife have to report you are living here? Would you not normally living in same house as your Spouse? This is already reported every 90 days on form submitted each time at Immigration...

Our is this another way to have some Official pocket 8,000 Baht?

Yes. Lets all assume it does. EVERY time I sleep at the wifes family place cross town for whatever reason, and anytime I sleep at a place that is not my registered location....

I say we all do this and flood the local police station, any police station with paperwork and calls and let their phones ring off the hook. "Just reporting, sir. Here are the foreigners details".

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So here's a hypothosis.

Even if not on a tourist visa, we are ALL temporarily let in to live, until give Thai citizenship.

So it counts for Any and All Aliens in Thai soil.

If a friend, a legal Thailand resident, has his own registered rental domicile in Thailand.

He stops in for 2-3 nights in transit at your place as a personal guest, but not a hotel or rental guest, it appears you must notify immigration he is in your home, even if he has his own full time residential home in Thailand, that he will be returning to the next day.

And on return to his Thai registered address, the owner of his rental place, or home he owns in rental land, must then renotify immigration when he has come home.

The level of paperwork needed to monitor the movements of all farangs seems stageringly absurd.

But a wonderful way to generate teamoney.

So I must report myself as returning to my home if I go to Bangkok for a few days.

And apparently writing my next destination on my hotel check in card is not enough.

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Sounds like a few members may also need work permits as they are acting as real estate agents renting to their "friends and relatives." smile.pngsmile.png

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Usually the Thai wife will take care of hotel reservations in Thailand.

I suspect that she also uses her own name. Using her husband's

name always results in higher prices.

How would the hotel know they have a foreigner registered?

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