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Lets say you want to move to a new place, would it be enough just to take the filled out form (maybe a copy of the landlord's ID) and bring it to immigration in person (w/o the landlord going with you)?

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So if you rent a house and relatives come to stay with you what is the requirement there?

Why is this topic causing so much confusion. If you rent the house you ARE NOT the owner, so it's not your responsibility to tell immigration of the foreigner staying there.. it's the responsibility of the OWNER.

Even if you rent, lease or have an usufruct you are still not the legal owner.

No, as head of the household it's your responsibility.

According to section 38 of the 1979 immigration act, "House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels who accommodate foreign nationals on a temporary basis who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national." If there is no immigration office in the province or locality of the respective house or hotel, the notification is made to the local police station. In Bangkok the notification is made to the Immigration Bureau. The notification of residence of foreign nationals is made by the manager of licensed hotels according to the hotel act, owners of guesthouses, mansions, apartments and rented houses using the form TM. 30.

The notification of residence of foreign nationals within 24 hours can be made in a number of ways to make the notification as convenient as possible:

In person at the respective office, or

Through an authorised person at the respective office, or

By registered mail, or

Via internet.

So does this mean if you are staying in the Kingdom illegally you don't have to report. this is all so confusing

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Lets say you want to move to a new place, would it be enough just to take the filled out form (maybe a copy of the landlord's ID) and bring it to immigration in person (w/o the landlord going with you)?

And what if one is on the move. Visiting. One day here, 2 days there.

Would become a holidays of visiting immigration offices...

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Thailand! Just ban all foreigners and get it over with. Well, wait a minute, except for rich foreigners. They can stay. Everyone else - OUT!

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Thailand! Just ban all foreigners and get it over with. Well, wait a minute, except for rich foreigners. They can stay. Everyone else - OUT!

But Thais think that all farungs are rich! ;)

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Well, I have a house and an apartment, so where do I really live??? Yeah, trust me. None of my landlords ever reported my presence to immigration. The average Thai wouldn't have a clue.

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What is all about those immigration rules in 2015? Tourist would go to Cambo, get a 1 year visa and can they living all over any places?

To my knowledge, Thailand opted out of this because they knew neighbouring countries were offering long visas, without any of the BS like Thailand. Eg. Vietnam - married to a Vietnamese National - 5 year visa - if not married to a Vietnamese National - 1 year "tourist visas" available. No need for 850,000 baht in the bank for 3 months blah blah blah.

Maybe I should take a vacation to Vietnam. Turn the current model of Thai wife in for a Vietnamese wife. Hummmm!

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My wife and I are supposed to go visit my in laws next week. We were supposed to stay for 10 days.. I told my father in law that he would have to report that I am staying there to immigration. He response was quick and simple. Don't come.

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We hear fairly regularly that immigration intends to enforce the long existing law on foreigner visitor registration in hotels etc.

I think it would be a deterrent for some undesirables - assuming their passport is genuine and backhanders do not get passed around to not register the visitor.

Equally, let's hope that immigration do not also accept a brown envelope to bypass any of the targeted establishments.

However, how many hotels, etc. are there in Phuket, and does the immigration department have enough staff to check every place?

Questions, questions, questions.

Actually this is just a rehash of the tune "Foreigners are bad and need to be watched"... When I moved here, I was astonished that such things are required; house registration, ID Card and more, but I have come to accept that Thais trust no one...

In the US, simple ownership papers and a Driver's license cover a variety of purposes and who stays at your house for how long is usually not police business.. Hotels and such keep a register, but that is rarely checked against any ID - too many politicians would have difficulty explaining why they spent the night at the 'all night inn'....

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I'm just wondering, blink.png if in the US or UK or Australia, France, etc. every hotel, motel, room for rent dwelling, reports to their immigration authorities, of every person staying in their establishment? Just wondering, mind you. Not totally obsessed by it, just wondering.. coffee1.gif

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We hear fairly regularly that immigration intends to enforce the long existing law on foreigner visitor registration in hotels etc.

I think it would be a deterrent for some undesirables - assuming their passport is genuine and backhanders do not get passed around to not register the visitor.

Equally, let's hope that immigration do not also accept a brown envelope to bypass any of the targeted establishments.

However, how many hotels, etc. are there in Phuket, and does the immigration department have enough staff to check every place?

Questions, questions, questions.

Actually this is just a rehash of the tune "Foreigners are bad and need to be watched"... When I moved here, I was astonished that such things are required; house registration, ID Card and more, but I have come to accept that Thais trust no one...

In the US, simple ownership papers and a Driver's license cover a variety of purposes and who stays at your house for how long is usually not police business.. Hotels and such keep a register, but that is rarely checked against any ID - too many politicians would have difficulty explaining why they spent the night at the 'all night inn'....

Sorry, did not see your post before I made mine. This is kind of what I thought. coffee1.gif

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Well, I will be in Thailand for almost three months starting the first week of May. I will be staying with my brother in law, a Royal Thai Police officer, in the apartment provided to him by the Royal Thai Police.

Who reports me to the Immigration Police, my police brother in law, the Royal Thai Police, or the Government of Thailand???

Just asking. unsure.png

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I have built a house in Isarn together with my Thai wife and visit it regularly with the wife and kids (I live with my family in Europe when not in Thailand). Relatives of my Thai wife are looking after the house when we are not there.

Who is then to report to the local immigration that I will be staying at "my" house?

Am I the household-master even though I do not appear in the blue "tabian baan"? I don't possess the yellow one. Apparently, I am the only "alien", since the wife and our kids are Thai nationals.

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My wife and I are supposed to go visit my in laws next week. We were supposed to stay for 10 days.. I told my father in law that he would have to report that I am staying there to immigration. He response was quick and simple. Don't come.

Sounds like a win/win mt. Go with it... ! smile.png

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This sounds like one of those rules where if everyone complied they would drown in paperwork. Our house is in my wife's name (please don't bombard me with how silly I am, our place in Oz is in my name) so technically every time we are in Thailand we should report that I am staying there. Which we don't do of course. This must be happening thousands of times every day.

Even the article says they are looking at hotels and guest houses, where it makes sense. If a (farang) mate comes round, has a drink and decides to stay in the spare room we are techincally required to report that? Madness.

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