angryfarang Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Does anyone know the recommended interval for changing the timing belt and the rough cost? My Triton is coming up to 120,000km's now and I'm sure it's due a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ask a dealer, but not the one doing your brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ask a dealer, but not the one doing your brakes LOL. Good point. I might find a re-used timing belt... or worse, some stockings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puuchai299 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I think you should get it changed pronto,most timing belt changes are at 100,000km.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 How big a job is with a Triton? Had my timing chain replaced last year on my Strada. They wanted to replace radiator & water pump at the same time. Settled for replacing water pump, but kept my radiator. Around 20,000 baht. But that was a chain, not a belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 The current version of the Mitsubishi 2.5L 4D56 engine uses a cam drive chain. I think these are replaced based on wear not at a set km interval. It is wise to be conservative with the wear assessment, a cam drive chain or tensioner failure can make a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Interesting. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Are you sure it's chain driven? "The 4D5 engine is a range of four-cylinder belt-driven overhead camshaft diesel engines which were part of the "Astron" family, and introduced in 1980 in the then new fifth generation Galant." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine#4D56 http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel-system-talk-140/crash-course-4d56-timing-belt-replacement-pics-85821/ http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=34129 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wprime Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 You don't change timing belts in Thailand, you keep driving until your engine blows, then you have your engine rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 I like your style... I wouldn't get it rebuilt, I'd just throw in a new v6. Or buy a new truck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 You don't change timing belts in Thailand, you keep driving until your engine blows, then you have your engine rebuilt. Strange comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 1 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Interesting. Thanks for that. My Strada is the 2800cc diesel 12years old it's chain driven. I don't know if yours is belt or chain but while you are at the dealer just ask I know Toyota says 150,000km on there belts, on a chain normally only changed when making a lot of noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH77 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If you check back a few months ago you will find my thread on this It depends on the Engine Size. The 3.2lt has a timing Chain and can go for 200,000 k's, the 2.5lt has a timing belt and should be changed at 100,000 k's. The Mitsu Dealer in Mukdahan wanted to Change my 3.2lt belt as he said it was, a couple of months ago so i did a lot of checking to find out it was a Chain and didn't need changing at all. I then passed on the information to the dealer. Search back for the Full Story. In Mukdahan at the Service Center office there is a chart on the wall that gives the price for all Servicing which includes the price for changing a Timing Belt on the 2.5lt Engine. It is a lot cheaper than the 3.2lt timing Chain. I think the Quoted Price was about 23,000 baht. Get your dealer to print out the pricing for you which shows all the bits to be replaced etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 My timming belt was just changed ( not Mitsubishi). Books says 90,000 kms. mine had 135,000. On causal inspection the old one looks OK. Much better than the accessory belt that came off at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 How big a job is with a Triton? Had my timing chain replaced last year on my Strada. They wanted to replace radiator & water pump at the same time. Settled for replacing water pump, but kept my radiator. Around 20,000 baht. But that was a chain, not a belt. "Around 20,000 baht." How much Ky did they need? That's a lot of cash for a straight forward job that usually takes less than 4 hours. If your radiator is always full of coolant you probably don't need a radiator, just a radiator flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 How big a job is with a Triton? Had my timing chain replaced last year on my Strada. They wanted to replace radiator & water pump at the same time. Settled for replacing water pump, but kept my radiator. Around 20,000 baht. But that was a chain, not a belt. "Around 20,000 baht." How much Ky did they need? That's a lot of cash for a straight forward job that usually takes less than 4 hours. If your radiator is always full of coolant you probably don't need a radiator, just a radiator flush. 2 day job. Have to remove radiator & front of engine. This a timing chain, not belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH77 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Interesting. Thanks for that. My Strada is the 2800cc diesel 12years old it's chain driven. I don't know if yours is belt or chain but while you are at the dealer just ask I know Toyota says 150,000km on there belts, on a chain normally only changed when making a lot of noise. It's not so much the Chain that is making the Noise but the Chain Tensioner, If it goes you will have a big bill to pay. If you start to here noise from the front of the engine have it seen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Are you sure it's chain driven? "The 4D5 engine is a range of four-cylinder belt-driven overhead camshaft diesel engines which were part of the "Astron" family, and introduced in 1980 in the then new fifth generation Galant." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine#4D56 http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel-system-talk-140/crash-course-4d56-timing-belt-replacement-pics-85821/ http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=34129 Nope, I was wrong. I have a copy of a few pages from a Triton shop manual showing a twin cam chain drive. I thought this was a 2011 manual and assumed it was for the 16 valve 4D56 engine but looking back, the engine spec is not stated so it's probably older and for one of the 4M4 series engines. The 2.5L uses a belt and Mitsubishi shows the timing belt change at 100,000 km in the (Thai) handbook but Mitsubishi's website maintenance page does not show the belt replacement cost for the 100,000 km service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 AF, Found a thread on another forum with pictures. Have sent PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Does the vehicle have a warning light for the cam belt? My Toyota Vigo has a light but I'm not sure if it's programmed to come on after a set odometer reading or of it has a sensor that senses any frays or loose cords around the actual belt. Just turned over 100,000klm but the light hasn't come on yet. Edited May 20, 2013 by Gsxrnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'm thinking of having it done very soon. This time I will probably stay and watch them do it. I remember watching them do my very first service all those years ago. They went to put new oil in without changing the filter. I stopped them and had to insist they change the 150 baht oil filter before adding new oil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 OK - Update. Price of timing belt kit (belt + tensioner) is 9,500 Baht fitted from my local Mitsubishi dealer on Koh Samui I asked why this wasn't changed 20,000 Km's ago and got blank looks... Anyway, will have it changed next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 P.S. I showed them this picture just to be certain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 P.S. I showed them this picture just to be certain... That's a belt....which is a bit easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 How big a job is with a Triton? Had my timing chain replaced last year on my Strada. They wanted to replace radiator & water pump at the same time. Settled for replacing water pump, but kept my radiator. Around 20,000 baht. But that was a chain, not a belt. "Around 20,000 baht." How much Ky did they need? That's a lot of cash for a straight forward job that usually takes less than 4 hours. If your radiator is always full of coolant you probably don't need a radiator, just a radiator flush. 2 day job. Have to remove radiator & front of engine. This a timing chain, not belt. That's a load of BS. It's a 4 hour job for a competent mechanic. The only thing that will add time to the job is if you have to go and get a new hydraulic chain tensioner cos the old one is stuffed. It only takes a minute to check if it's OK or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 P.S. I showed them this picture just to be certain... That's a belt....which is a bit easier! LOL. I wanted to point out the tensioner to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 P.S. I showed them this picture just to be certain... That's a belt....which is a bit easier! LOL. I wanted to point out the tensioner to them. I am starting to think that's a good idea for just about everything here. I down load pix's and print em out for lots of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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