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U S Navy Sailors Caught In Phuket Taxi Blockade

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Gangsters run the transport system and have government officials in their pockets apparently, so tourists and locals alike are held to ransom on this issue ALL the time, its only when a big boat turns up and it becomes newsworthy does the rest of the world find out about the extortionate manner of transport operations on Phuket. Lets just smile, say Mai Pen Rai and let the locals take us for all we are worth as usual... My friend in China said to me that the difference between Chinese and Thai is that Chinese will find the goose laying the golden egg and keep it until it can lay no more eggs then bake it up and eat it, Thai would just eat it and not worry that they lost all the eggs that might have come from it... same way they treat tourists, expecting that the ones they rip off today will be replaced by new marks tomorrow. Always enjoyable to observe the amazing Thailand experience, after 23 years it hasn't changed much Posted Image
I once read the Thais have the cunning of a fox and the strategy of a goldfish, I have since found that spot on.

 

PS: a goldfish has a 5 second memory span.

 

What was I trying to say?

 

And expats in Phuket have the memories of an Elephant. Your history follows you everywhere
Expats have the memory of elephants and the cunning of rabbits, just ask the indigenous females.

 

PS: I am not from Phuket, no real value there for me. 

 

PSS: Rabbits live in thorny bushes and get eaten by the fox

Sorry honest mistake. If you arent from Phuket then you dont really have any business posting here. How could you possibly know what goes on here if you dont or havent lived here?

Because we are avid readers of your posts :lol:

Is there a reference anywhere to to contractors not being paid?

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personally i would up anchor and sail for the phillipines

That was apparently one of the options seriously considered last night.

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Is there a reference anywhere to to contractors not being paid?

Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6

Inside information from somebody providing other services to the navy, and confirmed by the other news source that this is the cause of the dispute.

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

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personally i would up anchor and sail for the phillipines

That was apparently one of the options seriously considered last night.
I think they went to Singapore last time.

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

Well, obviously the "money chain" is broken somewhere, as people have not been paid.

So, would I be correct in saying, the drivers blockading the port are holding the sailors to ransom in an attempt to force the Singapore contractor, or the contractor in Thailand, to pay?

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

Well, obviously the "money chain" is broken somewhere, as people have not been paid.

So, would I be correct in saying, the drivers blockading the port are holding the sailors to ransom in an attempt to force the Singapore contractor, or the contractor in Thailand, to pay?

No, IMO your wording would not be correct. They're on strike, the sailors can take a tuktuk to go where they'd like to go.

Glad to see you agree the money chain has been broken somewhere, took you only about 5 posts to come to that conclusion.

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

Stevenl..... Everything you are saying is based on assumptions is it not?

The scource that you quote also says that they [Glenn Marine] have indeed paid..the monies owed...so two opposing statements in the one article..

Maybe ,as suggested ,the money has simply not been paid to the individual drivers...

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Dispute blocks bus service for US sailors in Phuket
Naraporn Tuarob

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Ao Makham taxi club leader Narong Kumban: ‘We can’t let just anyone come into the port.’

PHUKET: -- US Navy sailors are caught in the middle of a local dispute over transport to take them between the Deep Sea Port in Ao Makham and Patong.

Following a deal brokered in June 2011 after a series of blockades of the port by black taxis, custom from the Navy was split between the local taxi club and a bus company, Blue Sea.

Last night, Blue Sea threatened to cut off their service providing a shuttle service from the port to Patong because they had not been paid by the US Navy’s preferred facilitator, Glenn Defense Marine Asia (GDMA), which has its headquarters in Singapore.

This morning, having been paid only a small amount of what he said was owed, Blue Sea’s owner, Aree Kumban, suspended the service, which provided free transport for sailors.

He alleged that GDMA owes his company around B5.5 million – B3.5 million from last October when the aircraft carrier USS Stennis stopped in Phuket, and another B2 million so far for the current visit of the Stennis’s sister ship, the USS Nimitz.

This morning, GDMA apparently tried to hire another bus company to shuttle the sailors, but black taxi drivers promptly barred any bus other than those “registered” with the taxi club from coming into the port.

The local Phu Yai Baan, Narong Kumban, a relative of Mr Aree, told The Phuket News, “If we allow just anyone to come in here when we don’t know who they are, then if anything happens to the passengers, it will be difficult to place blame. We [local taxi club] might be blamed for letting them in.”

Mr Aree said that he had had some discussions over the phone with GDMA, but now his phone calls were going unanswered. “I’m going to put it in the hands of my lawyers now,” he said.

The Phuket News twice called Pornpun Settaphakorn, general manager of GDMA Thailand, for her response to Mr Aree’s allegations. On both occasions she declined to comment.

In the meantime the sailors from the USS Nimitz are deprived of their free shuttle service and are having to pay local taxis and minivans to get to and from Patong.

Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/dispute-blocks-bus-service-for-us-sailors-in-phuket-39777.php

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-- Phuket News 2013-05-30

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

Well, obviously the "money chain" is broken somewhere, as people have not been paid.

So, would I be correct in saying, the drivers blockading the port are holding the sailors to ransom in an attempt to force the Singapore contractor, or the contractor in Thailand, to pay?

No, IMO your wording would not be correct. They're on strike, the sailors can take a tuktuk to go where they'd like to go.

Glad to see you agree the money chain has been broken somewhere, took you only about 5 posts to come to that conclusion.

Quote stevenl: "I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America" :) :)

I stated all along, I bet Thai's are screwing Thai's.

However, if it is true what you say, that the sailors can still catch a tuk-tuk anywhere, now that changes things.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have been paid, but are complaining that they haven't, BUT the tuk-tuks are here to take you all where you want to go - at 6000 baht a journey. :) :)

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@ stevenl

The problem is, we don't know where the "money chain" is broken. You are assuming the money hasn't come from America. I am assuming the money made it here, but never got to the local providers.drivers.

Back to my question, what do they think anyone onboard can/will do????

What can the admiral of the ship do? He may make a few phone calls back to The States, but it's 4am over there now. What financial transaction can be completed at 4am, on the spot, if indeed, America's Department of Defence hasn't paid?

Why did they leave it to now, to blockade a ship, in an attempt to collect payment? This could have been raised through the proper channels long ago.

Yet another debarcle on Phuket.

No, I am not assuming the money chain is broken in America, I said I don't know where the company is from.

However, the company mentioned in the other news source is based in Singapore.

Their only position of power is now, with the sailors on the ground wanting transportation. So yes, if you want to achieve something a position with power is the only way to go.

Stevenl..... Everything you are saying is based on assumptions is it not?

The scource that you quote also says that they [Glenn Marine] have indeed paid..the monies owed...so two opposing statements in the one article..

Maybe ,as suggested ,the money has simply not been paid to the individual drivers...

Just please read. I have said the cause seems to be a payment dispute, with the drivers accusing the company organising transport in the whole of SEA as the culprit. Whether or not they are the cause or somebody inside Thailand is the cause remains to be seen, although with the company organising the transport in Pattaya not getting paid points to the likely cause being the company organising the SEA transport is the culprit.

I'm glad to see TV has updated the story and is now also looking at buses in stead of tuktuk's.

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