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Can Thai Citizens Cross Into Cambodia With Just Id Card..

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Hi , can somebody settle a discusion please.. My girlfriend has crossed into chong chom with just using An Id card her and her 2 friends.. 2 times in the last 2 years she has done this but another farang says no you need a passport.. Has anybody crossed this border with there Thai partner and used just an ID card??

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What I have heard is that Thais can cross the border without a Passport, but can only stay within the same province and only for a limited amount of time. If they want for example to visit PP or Sihanoukville etc they need a Passport !

But this could have changed in the meantime !

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Ok Thank you.. I suppose Buriram is a province very close to the border so that is probably why..

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Ok Thank you.. I suppose Buriram is a province very close to the border so that is probably why..

My guess it would be the same for every Thai, I knew some people here in Pattaya and they go every 2-3 weeks to the Casino near Aranyaprathet / Poi Pet to gamble (for a day or 2), and they only use their ID Card.

Edit: // SpElLinG

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have her get a passport, its only 1,015 baht an takes less than a week

otherwise she can only enter border area.

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I've crossed a Cambodian border. With what form of Thai ID I used, well that would be telling 5555

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Passport is needed. However, an ID card may be acceptable for short trips into no-man's land where the casinos are located (this would be before Cambodian immigration) provided the Thai citizen without a passport returns back to Thailand before the border closes (this is 8pm at Aranyaprathet, could be earlier elsewhere). I am not aware of ID cards being acceptable for anything other than short day excursions maybe 1km inside the country anywhere else. At least on the road between Poipet and Sisophon heading towards Phnom Penh and Siem Reap, there is a police checkpoint around 20km east of the border. Although in practice ID checks are not carried out, they could be. I wouldn't advise any Thai to attempt to travel this far inland without a passport though, no matter how far they think they can travel without one. Also, checking into any hotel is very difficult without a passport - I was able to use my Cambodian driver's license most of the time, but not always. Sometimes a passport (or at least a copy) was insisted upon.

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At least until a couple of years ago, whether a Thai could pass the Thai immigration checkpoint at Poipet without a passport depended on the level of tension between the Thai and Cambodian governments. In general it was allowed but whenever there was a border skirmish or some other diplomatic spat immigration would revert to passports only. And sometimes as an added punishment, Thai immigration would only open 1 or 2 Thai passport counters so that getting through the queue took hours whereas the counters for foreign passports would be manned as usual. Obviously this was intended to put a squeeze on casino revenue though several of them are Thai owned anyway.

It also depends on who you are. There are a privileged few that can and regularly do pass the checkpoint 24/7 without any document checking at all.

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At least until a couple of years ago, whether a Thai could pass the Thai immigration checkpoint at Poipet without a passport depended on the level of tension between the Thai and Cambodian governments. In general it was allowed but whenever there was a border skirmish or some other diplomatic spat immigration would revert to passports only. And sometimes as an added punishment, Thai immigration would only open 1 or 2 Thai passport counters so that getting through the queue took hours whereas the counters for foreign passports would be manned as usual. Obviously this was intended to put a squeeze on casino revenue though several of them are Thai owned anyway.

It also depends on who you are. There are a privileged few that can and regularly do pass the checkpoint 24/7 without any document checking at all.

I thought the gates were firmly shut after 8pm. Having had to sleep in Aranyaprathet before because we arrived with some goods and it was already 7.45pm, I can assure you that the border area is dead after 8pm. We walked to the market area and the border area was eerily quiet then. Also, is it true that no Thai cars can enter Poipet? Indeed, I've never seen any try.

Also, the foreigners queue is full of foreigners from all sorts of countries, there's Russians, Vietnamese, Laotians, Europeans, Aussies, Americans, etc. a ton of people and it can take a full hour to get through as a foreigner - the line went well outside the building the last two times I was there (coming back to Thailand is also slow, but queues tend to be a bit shorter). I observed the Thai queues which looked a lot quicker to me with fewer people. Since many Thais are scared of going to Cambodia (and this is in no small part due to recent and historical tensions) it did appear to me that there weren't that many Thais there.

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Ok Thank you.. I suppose Buriram is a province very close to the border so that is probably why..

Has Buriram ceded to Cambodia? Damn these land-grabbing Khmerssad.png

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At least until a couple of years ago, whether a Thai could pass the Thai immigration checkpoint at Poipet without a passport depended on the level of tension between the Thai and Cambodian governments. In general it was allowed but whenever there was a border skirmish or some other diplomatic spat immigration would revert to passports only. And sometimes as an added punishment, Thai immigration would only open 1 or 2 Thai passport counters so that getting through the queue took hours whereas the counters for foreign passports would be manned as usual. Obviously this was intended to put a squeeze on casino revenue though several of them are Thai owned anyway.

It also depends on who you are. There are a privileged few that can and regularly do pass the checkpoint 24/7 without any document checking at all.

I thought the gates were firmly shut after 8pm. Having had to sleep in Aranyaprathet before because we arrived with some goods and it was already 7.45pm, I can assure you that the border area is dead after 8pm. We walked to the market area and the border area was eerily quiet then. Also, is it true that no Thai cars can enter Poipet? Indeed, I've never seen any try.

Also, the foreigners queue is full of foreigners from all sorts of countries, there's Russians, Vietnamese, Laotians, Europeans, Aussies, Americans, etc. a ton of people and it can take a full hour to get through as a foreigner - the line went well outside the building the last two times I was there (coming back to Thailand is also slow, but queues tend to be a bit shorter). I observed the Thai queues which looked a lot quicker to me with fewer people. Since many Thais are scared of going to Cambodia (and this is in no small part due to recent and historical tensions) it did appear to me that there weren't that many Thais there.

Yes the gates on the Thai side are closed at 8PM but they can be and quite often are opened for medical emergencies. It's a long way to a reasonable hospital on the Cambodian side. But also casino owners & other "influential" people seem to be able to get the gates opened at will. They don't even get out of their vehicles. Some other shadowy types involved in the gambling business also seem to be able to get in and out anytime but I think they use some illegal bypass nearby.

As for Thai registered cars, it is possible to drive them into the no-mans-land (as long as Thailand let's you out) but to pass the Cambodian checkpoint is more difficult and a bit risky if you do manage it. It has been explained to me that you need advance permission in writing from a Govt. Ministry in Phnom Penh to drive a right hand drive car into Cambodia and there are quite a few checkpoints from Poipet onwards where you would likely be checked. You do see caravans of Thai 4WD vehicles on organised rallies passing through but I guess they have the relevant permission.

As you say, there are periods when you see very few Thai's at the checkpoint or in the casinos. That normally indicates that the underground casinos in Bangkok are operating freely.

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As for Thai registered cars, it is possible to drive them into the no-mans-land (as long as Thailand let's you out) but to pass the

Cambodian checkpoint is more difficult and a bit risky if you do manage it. It has been explained to me that you need advance permission in

writing from a Govt. Ministry in Phnom Penh to drive a right hand drive car into Cambodia and there are quite a few checkpoints from Poipet

onwards where you would likely be checked. You do see caravans of Thai 4WD vehicles on organised rallies passing through but I guess they have

the relevant permission.

true but not true.

they wont let u in at Poi Pet with a thai licensed car but it has nothing to do with rhd or not. They just don't want you to cross,BUT if u get permission ahead of time in PP you can so that goes to show RHD has nothing to do with it.

YOU can, an i have, as have a few people i know, crossed at Osmach (south of Surin) with no trouble an u can also cross with ur car via Koh Kong but u need pay 100 baht/day

I left last Sept via poi pet with car and saw no checkpoints between SR and Poi pet on either side.

Am taking my car back in next month via Osmach

All the times i have had my car in Cambodia an that amounts to about 14 months total over the past 4 years i have never seen a checkpoint EXCEPT when leaving the country next to the border heading back to Thailand and those i just drove past. I have driven most all of the passable roads except for the far northeast

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As for Thai registered cars, it is possible to drive them into the no-mans-land (as long as Thailand let's you out) but to pass the Cambodian checkpoint is more difficult and a bit risky if you do manage it. It has been explained to me that you need advance permission in writing from a Govt. Ministry in Phnom Penh to drive a right hand drive car into Cambodia and there are quite a few checkpoints from Poipet onwards where you would likely be checked. You do see caravans of Thai 4WD vehicles on organised rallies passing through but I guess they have the relevant permission.

Out of curiosity (having never travelled to Cambodia from Thailand myself), is the switch from the left-hand side of the road to the right-hand side when travelling by car managed in some orderly manner by any chance? If so, how and where is the change actually performed?

Or are there mountains of smashed-up vehicles by the side of the road in no-man's-land which are testament to this being a chaotic free-for-all?wai2.gif

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As for Thai registered cars, it is possible to drive them into the no-mans-land (as long as Thailand let's you out) but to pass the

Cambodian checkpoint is more difficult and a bit risky if you do manage it. It has been explained to me that you need advance permission in

writing from a Govt. Ministry in Phnom Penh to drive a right hand drive car into Cambodia and there are quite a few checkpoints from Poipet

onwards where you would likely be checked. You do see caravans of Thai 4WD vehicles on organised rallies passing through but I guess they have

the relevant permission.

true but not true.

they wont let u in at Poi Pet with a thai licensed car but it has nothing to do with rhd or not. They just don't want you to cross,BUT if u get permission ahead of time in PP you can so that goes to show RHD has nothing to do with it.

YOU can, an i have, as have a few people i know, crossed at Osmach (south of Surin) with no trouble an u can also cross with ur car via Koh Kong but u need pay 100 baht/day

I left last Sept via poi pet with car and saw no checkpoints between SR and Poi pet on either side.

Am taking my car back in next month via Osmach

All the times i have had my car in Cambodia an that amounts to about 14 months total over the past 4 years i have never seen a checkpoint EXCEPT when leaving the country next to the border heading back to Thailand and those i just drove past. I have driven most all of the passable roads except for the far northeast

Would love to see any threads you've started on driving Thai cars in Cambodia...documents needed, etc. Especially interested in the 'advance approval from Phonom Penh and how you apply for that...

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