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Has Anyone Noticed How Expensive It Is To Live In Isaan These Days?

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I am in Australia at the moment.Cigarettes are $18 a pack.What are they in Mara Sarakham $3.If they go up to much I will not return.Also cold here but if it to expensive I will not return I will tough it out in Australia,freezing,until I go to the Great Temple.

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I am in Australia at the moment.Cigarettes are $18 a pack.What are they in Mara Sarakham $3.If they go up to much I will not return.Also cold here but if it to expensive I will not return I will tough it out in Australia,freezing,until I go to the Great Temple.

Is that $18 for how many in the pack, Mickjin? I quit smoking in 2004 and left Oz in 2005. I think they were $13 for a pack of 40 back then.

I left CM in February to come back to China, partly because it was too expensive to live in CM, and the wages for a teacher were too low there. It is much cheaper to live in China, and the wages are higher here than in Thailand.

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Common, I shop at tesco/macro every week.It never went over 3,500 tb. And that tops. usually it would be 2,500.That would include just everything we need for the week, including chicken, fruits, vegetables etc. That's for 3 people and plenty of guests.

I don't know what kind of stuff you buy or for what period of time, but maybe you should recalculate.

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I totally agree about careful sourcing yielding good savings.

If you can find a "Bangkok Ham" shop, their smoked "Paris ham" is around B250 a kilo and much nicer than domestic hams you get other places. Thinly sliced with some nice cheese - decent parmesan available bulk by the kilo around B1,200, lots cheaper than the plastic Kraft crap.

But it can't be denied, basic food stuffs have greatly increased in price, and not just farang-style imported goods.

In fact I'd say the more essential local foods purchased by normal (poor) Thais at the wet markets have increased in price most of all, and just like back home, real wages haven't kept up at all.

Imagine trying to support a family on on B8,000 a month all up just to put the issue in perspective.

No shame in a little belt-tightening if you can afford double that in one trip to the grocery store.

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when the government promised: everybody rich in 6 months, they forget to tell: everybody pays much more for everything

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Since you are quoting in baht, the 17,500 would have nothing to do with exchange rate - - I am not sure how you could fit 17,500 into 2 trollies. We seem to fill 2 for abt 2,500 - but that is up from 1,500 some years ago.

Surely you have seen the cliched images of old people walking around bemoaning the times when everything cost a dime. And that packaged ham is not really good for you anyway.

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I'm just about to go off on holiday to central Europe (Austria, Germany, Italy etc) to wade around in the mud. Anyway, I looked up the prices in Lidl, the German supermarket chain in Austria as I will be buying groceries there. The prices compared to Thailand are amazing - like 1.2 Euro for a bottle of wine. I noticed this back in the UK last year at Lidl, Morrisons and other cheapo places - very cheap compared to say Tops or Tescos. I don't mean only the imported stuff either. Things like chocolate, processed meats, ice cream, tinned foods are a snip.

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When I was in Nan last February the only thing I could find to eat in town was rice soup... at about 35 baht a bowl. That is all I could find after stopping in about 15 cafes. I'm sure there must be some proper restaurants but I couldn't find any. I was finally stuck eating at my hotel's buffet for about 250 baht. I can get a nice Thai meal in Chiang Mai for 40 baht.

Its lights out at Nan at 8pm up at 5 am,beautiful place

Tony's place, now in the centre, is a great restaurant and talking shop for both Thai and western food in Nan. He will also do takeaways and has a web site. His sausage and mash and pizzas are delightful. You can also buy bread and sausages to take home. Not many other places, I agree. There are also many coffee places opened up. The Dhevaraj Hotel does a good cheap lunch buffet incl western food.

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Along with minimum wages, the cost basics have all gone up. Cooking oil, sugar, gas and the like. The situation isn't limited to Isaan, restaurants prices have crept up all over Thailand in the last 18 mon

Along with minimum wages, the cost basics have all gone up. Cooking oil, sugar, gas and the like. The situation isn't limited to Isaan, restaurants prices have crept up all over Thailand in the last 18 months.

Along with minimum wages, the cost basics have all gone up. Cooking oil, sugar, gas and the like. The situation isn't limited to Isaan, restaurants prices have crept up all over Thailand in the last 18 months.

If the OP has notced, the exchange rate has gone up a bit in the last two weeks. today it is over 48 baht to the GBP.

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Definitely a big bill.

My two most expensive single items are bacon and sausages. 275 for a kilo of good bacon with no fat. 175 for 20/24 sausages. They last between 2 - 4 weeks.

Ham scrap is about 170 Baht a kilo and tastes as good as any other.

A kilo of cheese was about 700 Baht and lasted at least 5 weeks - but I eat (ate) too much cheese and stopped buying it.

17,500? Yest it sounds like a cashback.

On that note, I read an article recently - granted from the U.K. - that cashiers were adding cash-back to the bills. The cashiers would not give the cash-back to the customer, but often hand it to a friend in the checkout queue.

Did you check the bill? I count the items I've bought against how many are on the bill itself and only takes a few seconds.

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If you go by the 'mama index', prices are up 15-20%.

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I've lived in Issan for 24 years and seen inflation but it would be the same anywhere. Nothing to do with the exchange rate. There was a period when the baht was weak against the pound. Now it is normal in my opinion.

If I went to Tesco in UK and filled two trolleys with all the food and clothes that I wanted I'd pay slot more. Welcome to the real world.

I have 3 kids and never spend nearly that much on my monthly trip to Tesco.

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Been to Tokyo, and at the supermarket prices for almost anything, including imports, are lower than in Bangkok.

While the quality and hygiene is much higher, wages and rents are much higher.

Thai Baht need to devalue at least 20%. It's ridiculous having first world prices and third world standards.

If the Baht would devalue 20% imported goods could become 20% more expensive in Thai Baht....

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There's not much point being shocked at the price of a packet of ham after you have bought it. Better to check the price before, I would have thought.

Although I, for one, would not eat any processed meats at all, by choice.

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