bangkaew Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Amusing how they always state the reason for this crackdown is because these "gangs" are making profit that Thais should get, Khun Xenophobe, reality is that the biggest mafia gangs on Phuket are the local Taxi & Tuk Tuk operators (gangs). Distracting everyone with this attack on foreigners and their businesses only highlights the governments lack of will to take on the Taxi and Tuk Tuk thugs of Phuket. If they ever strap on a pair and go after them they should add to the list, the BIke Rentals and Jet Ski Rentals gangs and their scams. If they are not tarnishing the image of Thailand then nothing is... I suppose you think Phuket should let the likes of Thomas Cook run everything. If you want England in the sun go to Australia. Thailand is popular because it employs nationalism. The Philippines is the globalization model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 who cares what mafia, get rid of all of them and thailand will boom again as it did before ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Isn't this part of the DSI's job anyway? Why do they need to be "asked" to do their <deleted>*%ing job? Well, it should of course be the DSI's role to direct its law enforcers to do the job, but look at what they have to work with...! I'm sorry, but this mafia problem (which hasn't even been correctly assessed) will have to wait until such time as Thailand has a police force capable of dealing with it...! Let's not hold our collective breath, eh....!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TackyToo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 But didn't Chalerm get rid of all Thailand mafia gangs a few months ago? Looks like there is another one of his stupid promises he forgot about: Posted 2012-01-25 16:51:08 Chalerm: No officials will be spared from law for committing crimes http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/528723-chalerm-no-officials-will-be-spared-from-law-for-committing-crimes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 5555 only foreign maffia, i guess that position is only available for THAIS............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Amusing how they always state the reason for this crackdown is because these "gangs" are making profit that Thais should get, Khun Xenophobe, reality is that the biggest mafia gangs on Phuket are the local Taxi & Tuk Tuk operators (gangs). Distracting everyone with this attack on foreigners and their businesses only highlights the governments lack of will to take on the Taxi and Tuk Tuk thugs of Phuket. If they ever strap on a pair and go after them they should add to the list, the BIke Rentals and Jet Ski Rentals gangs and their scams. If they are not tarnishing the image of Thailand then nothing is... You are right. Even so. the scams you mention are Thai scams done by Thais in Thailand. Indeed, all those scams are not really very promoting for Thailand But you make a fundamental mistake, the Russian crime gangs in Thailand are very dangerous indeed. Look what happened in Spain and other countries. However, don't underestimate the Russian criminal society. They tend to take over the local "criminal" scene in a very bloody way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Quote: The authorities plan to crack down on foreign mafia gangs Wow, a real genuine gang war !! Local maffia against Foreign maffia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nami Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Excuse my ignorance, but I've been in Phuket just once some years ago (because of taxi mafia and its high non metered prices, and I promised to myself I would never go back there), thus I am not up to date on the Russian gangs activity. Is there really a Russian mafia or gangs pulling out scams like the local jetskis or forcing you to pay crazy prices like the taxis? Because to me it doesn't look the same as the way you are forced to pay a price for a taxi, as some distances are not walkable and all of them have prearranged the same fare. If you think a restaurant is overpriced, just go to the next one. If this is all about taxes, which I doubt it, then no need to crackdown anything, just force them to pay (also, not sure how this could be related to the police as it should be the revenue department). I suspect the Russians found a way to setup businesses without paying tea money and that's what's all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don`t know why so many are complaining.It is good that the authorities are going to do something, because now the situation is becoming critical. The longer this is left, the more powerful these foreign gangs and illegal business owners will become, which could result in major clashes between the local good and criminal Thais and the Russians in these areas and I believe this is also a major concern for the police, that hostilities between the Thais and the Russians will escalate into violence if nothing is done.As far as I am concerned the whole of Pattaya is rotten to the core and Phuket is fastly becoming a second Pattaya. Beautiful costal destinations that have been ruined, run by criminals and populated by the underclasses of Thai and foreign societies. They are no longer safe for the average tourists and certainly would not recommend anyone to visit those places. Pattaya should be renamed; sexpattaya, now one the criminal capitals of the world and hoping that the authorities are able to clean up Phuket before the rot really sets in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't they have a police force in Phuket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinrada Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Under the new ASEAN work agreement which Thailand has signed it basically means that the ( in small letters with deference to the real Cos N....) mafia chappies of all the other ASEAN countries can legally operate anywhere within the Union as equals so expect Pooket to find it self with many other "Service Organisations"from Malaysia,Phils,Cambodia,Burma,Sing,Indonesia....China with no restrictions. Free market competition should bring down...... tuk tuk fares..eh.....chai....crin-ging.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 "These businesses have not generated any income for Thailand....." The exact same thing is true of TAT's involvement in domestic tourism, since domestic money is already in Thailand and has zero influence on incremental revenues coming into the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't they have a police force in Phuket? Police yes. Force? That looks like it could be a typo (farce). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Targeting foreign Mafia in Phuket... hhhmmmmh... wasn't aware of the "fact" that some foreigners in Phuket were also working as tuk tuk, taxi, and mini bus drivers, government and customs officials, policemen, and for the revenue department... Wow! We learn something new every day Edited July 17, 2013 by catweazle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Amusing how they always state the reason for this crackdown is because these "gangs" are making profit that Thais should get, Khun Xenophobe, reality is that the biggest mafia gangs on Phuket are the local Taxi & Tuk Tuk operators (gangs). Distracting everyone with this attack on foreigners and their businesses only highlights the governments lack of will to take on the Taxi and Tuk Tuk thugs of Phuket. If they ever strap on a pair and go after them they should add to the list, the BIke Rentals and Jet Ski Rentals gangs and their scams. If they are not tarnishing the image of Thailand then nothing is... Perhaps you and mrtoad would like to read the article. Part of it states " Several complainants had said mafia-style figures forced tourists into unlicensed taxis and charged a much higher rate than normal. Somsak said many Russians hired Thais as nominees to run restaurants, souvenir shops, and beach-bed rental services that had exploited tourists." I understand that their is a lot of Thais involved in crime but to put it asll on the Thais is just plain good old fashioned Thai bashing. Knob heads. The biggest mafia in Phuket are the Thais, and they do far more damage to the reputation of Phuket. They will not do anything... Nothing will change... Same Same, More BS I disagree they will do every thing in their power to bring these foreign Mafias to heal. You will notice they have given them plenty of time to cover up their part in the Mafia's 8 days and their will not be a trace of a foreign person in connection with crime on Phuket. I can see the direction this thread is going and am not going to waste my time on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 "These businesses have not generated any income for Thailand. Most if not all money goes to the mafia gangs' pockets" - I am confused here, are they talking about the government's rice scheme or the Russian Mafia?A Russian emloys Thais and pays them.The Russians pocket the rest,with tea money here and there.Whats the problem?Let a Thai open similiar business and compete or copy as they usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I guess Thai Mafia is worried about competition. Makes sense, go after foreign mafia, even though every Thai will tell you Thai police is the biggest mafia in Thailand.Army number 1,police number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicinette Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What about the thai mafia ? does it generate income for Thailand...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Somsak said his ministry |and the DSI would organise a joint operation in Phuket on July 25."If it's successful, we will use a similar approach in other tourist destinations such as Pattaya where mafia-style businesses are reportedly active," he said. Must be a april joke.Funny strategy to announce there joint operation in advance. Whom they believe to catch?How can something like this be successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thai nominees!!! You mean these people actually own a business and are trading legally. However when you legally work in Thailand but adopt the Thai methods of business practice you are branded Mafia. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issangeorge Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 How can they track down mafia when they can't track down the former PM and they know where he is or going to be. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 6 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Do not pretend to know the situation in Phuket. But if Thai DSI really think they can take on Russian mafia - they should eat more porridge. Every morning. Not a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tboy928 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Knob heads. The biggest mafia in Phuket are the Thais, and they do far more damage to the reputation of Phuket. Been living there 4 years, and only problem is Greedy Thai usless workers, and Tuk tuk Mafia , can even get a normal taxi with taximeter in Patong at any given day or night . what the do no is try grab more from some foregners that try maybe ,make som correct buisness there. Sun bed rent out , the Thais have divided that up by themself long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tboy928 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What about the thai mafia ? does it generate income for Thailand...? what happend with the case where some Goverment/ phuket people sold of a lot of goverment land til Resort building, and the main investigating guy that was high up in the News for a moment ,that he will get to the bottom of this ? he went on and was placed another place . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Ah the temptation to gatecrash the photo call and smack em all in the face with a baseball bat!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What about the thai mafia ? does it generate income for Thailand...? what happend with the case where some Goverment/ phuket people sold of a lot of goverment land til Resort building, and the main investigating guy that was high up in the News for a moment ,that he will get to the bottom of this ? he went on and was placed another place . That's why the system is so good for public officials and the local law breakers. Officals can say they did a crackdown on crime, but got transferred, and the local law breakers keep on breaking the law, The system breeds corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotaplonker Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 beach bed/chair mafia ?? Surely thais ran the beach chair business long before any ruskies appeared?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO1973 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes, that's right, it's all the foreigners' fault. Nothing bad would ever happen if it weren't for all of these 'bad people' from other countries causing problems here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorchio Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 There must have been complaints from local Mafiosa. So the brass are looking into it ..... fair play!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Oh, 'can already tell you that the campaign/"crackdown" will be a huge success. Plan your next trip to Phuket now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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