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Maybe some people are moaners because they are stuck between cultures. They have been here quite long time but still not really accepting the Thai culture ways of doing things. At the same time their old country has changed too and it also feels "foreign". Old friends feel like strangers, not really the same as years before. They feel betrayed at both countries.

For British and Russians especially this might be even harder culture to fit in than for most because in a conflict situation they are quite eager to start a shouting match. That behavior really is seen by Thais as a bull in a china shop stuff. Especially if a foreigner start belittling the Thais involved on top of being very angry. Loss of face...huge red flag.

How stupid to mention the Brits with the Russians.

Somehow coming from a hierarchical society with a monarchy , where manners still play apart in life..etc..we are closer to Thai society than most. Plus we have always been multi cultural in the uk given our colonial past..

You know very little about the Brits, start a shouting match are you kidding..who are you hanging out with.

Are u American..?

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How stupid to mention the Brits with the Russians.

Somehow coming from a hierarchical society with a monarchy , where manners still play apart in life..etc..we are closer to Thai society than most. Plus we have always been multi cultural in the uk given our colonial past..

You know very little about the Brits, start a shouting match are you kidding..who are you hanging out with.

Are u American..?

HA HA! That is so funny..."we are closer to Thais than most". You are not, definitely not closer to Thais culturewise than other westerners! The Germans and the Scandinavians get along much better with Thais on average than the working class British.

Worst behaving tourists:

1. Americans

2. British

3. Russians

4. Chinese

5. Australians

http://www.businessinsider.com/worst-behaved-tourists-2013-5?op=1

Edited by Timwin

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So now you are saying its working class Brits.

Can you further specify whether we are talking English welsh scots Irish, age group!!

The swedes find there own areas and assimilate less than most. Come over in peak periods, have their own ghettos, nice people agreed.

Next you' ll be saying we are all drunks..

Well at least you have proved the topic..you must live in cm!!

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Maybe Vilagefarang is correct and maybe it is the bar culture but that do,s account for all the moaning you here at the likes of Big C. Central Plazza. Local supermarkets. Saturday markets or even out there playing golf?..

Maybe they should just compare there life to for example a 60 year old person living back in the Western world with what amounts to as little as £10 to live on after paying all the weekly bills and just thank god for what they have and remember just how lucky they really are to live in such a beautiful place as Chiang Rai...

Cant imagine there are many people living in the UK with 10 pounds to last them a week---- whats that worth?--- About 480bt !!!!!!!

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Louis Armstrong: What a wonderful World

I see trees of green........ red roses too
I see em bloom..... for me and for you
And I think to myself.... what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue..... clouds of white
Bright blessed days....dark sacred nights
And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world.

The colors of a rainbow.....so pretty ..in the sky
Are also on the faces.....of people ..going by
I see friends shaking hands.....sayin.. how do you do
They're really sayin......i love you.

I hear babies cry...... I watch them grow
They'll learn much more.....than I'll never know
And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world

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Sorry, I didn't read every comment so maybe this has been covered. It's hard to express yourself negative in thai, so you pick someone who speaks your language. then, it's like therapy, once you listen the gates will open. don't get me wrong, we all have some life regrets and the heat, food, different bed and language barrier does take its toll. but if you are negative within the first five minutes, I will likely never like you. when you are negative, I usually joke and say 'oh, you really hate it here. why not go to japan.' I say japan because I am sure they have no money and it's my passive aggressive comedy. I then say something really positive about myself, further making them awkward. that is the game I play. then I back off and give them one more chance to be normal. let's talk football, hockey, women, traveling, language, whatever.....but if I hear some more whining and crying with nothing done about it....well, I get on my bike and say 'choke dii, laa gan.' they will not understand the fact I didn't say 'choke dii, phop gaan mai'. which means the same, but really it doesn't. smile.png ****Thai language removed**** (I hope this is right) smile.png

Edited by metisdead
English is the only acceptable language, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed.

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There are many things I love in this country including respect for old timers, my gf of four years is half my age, There are also many things so alien to Westrn culture that it is difficult to come to terms with. I have no intention of making a list as you all know them, We choose to live here because we prefer it over our place of birth, it takes a few years to understand what is ok in your home culture is not the same as here, mellow out accept the differance or go home to your fat old unavailable females , good luck on that score, I see so many guys living with chicks half the western World young men would die for, admit the truth ?????

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I don`t think all the moaning and groaning actually means anything. I never take much it seriously on Thai visa.

Some people always enjoy a good moan, it`s just their way of relieving some of life`s pressures. I believe having a good gripe about things on occasions does you good, relieves high blood pressure and gets it all out of the system.

People will find somethings to complain about wherever they live, it`s only natures way and there is really no harm in it. When they moan, we can either agree or disagree, it`s nothing serious and I never take these comments to heart or as personal.

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talk to optimistic people.

Whose glasses are half full, as opposed to half empty!xsmile.png.pagespeed.ic.CwSpBGGvqN.png Seriously there are always people who WANT to find fault - they will often be the ones who are never happy but also never prepared to change - you get them everywhere - even in Paradise!

To paraphrase Wilbur Smith "Avoid the company of losers, for their despair is contagious"

Thank you, you just reminded me of a quote of my mothers "Two men looked out through prison bars, one saw mud, the other saw stars..............

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I agree. Having worked all over Asia the Brits tend to be the best to work with ( with some exceptions).

I have to disagree with that one. I would assume you are Brit by making that statement.

When working with Brits, all they can talk about is what is proper. Of course, proper is what is normal in the UK.

Similar to the Thais. What is proper is what Thais deem proper.

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I believe a lot of complaining comes from your place in Thailand. If you are working with the Thais, it is far different than being retired and just living around them. Retirees are not exposed to what the Thais deal out to foreigners on a regular/daily basis.

In the workplace, Thais are automatically right and you are automatically wrong. Thais are given a pass on nearly everything in the workplace but foreigners are held to a different level of the expectation of perfection. Perfection as they define it and it changes constantly. Foreigners are generally disliked for multiple reasons; you are different, you make too much money, you are rude, etc. And they keep you guessing on what the rules are in the workplace.

So if you are in a position such as this, then yes you will complain.

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I agree. Having worked all over Asia the Brits tend to be the best to work with ( with some exceptions).

I have to disagree with that one. I would assume you are Brit by making that statement.

When working with Brits, all they can talk about is what is proper. Of course, proper is what is normal in the UK.

Similar to the Thais. What is proper is what Thais deem proper.

I'm not a Brit,but find Ozzies n Brits, the most Fun.They can laugh at their funny ways,but Americans dont have any,seems to me They are.Never Wrong,just like Germans.cheesy.gif . Sorry John from San Diego,not You.wub.png

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Don't you wish moaning expats were a source of energy? The planet's energy supply would be secure for the rest of our lives.

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I agree. Having worked all over Asia the Brits tend to be the best to work with ( with some exceptions).

I have to disagree with that one. I would assume you are Brit by making that statement.

When working with Brits, all they can talk about is what is proper. Of course, proper is what is normal in the UK.

Similar to the Thais. What is proper is what Thais deem proper.

I'm not a Brit,but find Ozzies n Brits, the most Fun.They can laugh at their funny ways,but Americans dont have any,seems to me They are.Never Wrong,just like Germans.cheesy.gif . Sorry John from San Diego,not You.wub.png

So then, you are Aussie, which would explain your comment.

If you are comparing me to a German, I'm ok with that.

Edited by Markaew

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