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ChiangMai has more condos which may suit people better than renting houses. ChiangRai has better access to the countryside. Chiangrai has taxis for a meter fare which they use from 35 baht. Chiangmai has taxis for a non meter fare from 100 baht.

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i want to live in a new house which we will build , and have some land with nice views. we are leaning towards CR . i think the country side and fishing will make our decision

I think you are making the right decision. If you want to build and enjoy the beauty of Northern Thailand then CR is the better alternative. Look forward to having you join our great group of TV'ers.

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harry....

yes she is excited to go back north , I am happy for her . we will do alot of traveling there in the next 6 months ...thanks .

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Look at it this way, it's about how you enjoy where you live.

If you like the quietness of Chiang Rai you can drive to Chiang Mai in a couple of hours if you miss anything else.

You can fly to Bangkok in less time, take time out for a couple of nights and fly back.

There is good food here, I can think of half a dozen places serving good local cuisine, you just have to know where they are, they are not tourist spots.

For Western food... cook it yourself. All the ingredients are now available.

If you want all that 24/7 then live in Chiang Mai, there's plenty of nice spots out of town

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Look at it this way, it's about how you enjoy where you live.

If you like the quietness of Chiang Rai you can drive to Chiang Mai in a couple of hours if you miss anything else.

You can fly to Bangkok in less time, take time out for a couple of nights and fly back.

There is good food here, I can think of half a dozen places serving good local cuisine, you just have to know where they are, they are not tourist spots.

For Western food... cook it yourself. All the ingredients are now available.

If you want all that 24/7 then live in Chiang Mai, there's plenty of nice spots out of town

Thanks

I was a aprentice chef in my younger days and done it for 3 years and then wanted to party and not do cooking . i wish i stayes at it as i love to cook . my wife has not cooked a thai meal in all the years we have been married heheh.

i am very excited to be moving north when the time comes. thanks again , and i will enjoy talking to you soon

cheers

kevvy

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CM likely has better hospitals, if that is important. Reading the OP's post, I would advise CR. More peaceful, you won't get the crowds like Sunday Market, and traffic in CM is a concern to many. However, CM just has a great vibe. walking in old town is like a home-away-from-home, and even all the tourists don't bother me much. I just hope pollution isn't much worse in CR in march and april. that really got me the last few times I was in CM. I was relatively happy with internet in CM, but sometimes will be slow at peak hours. ah, not a deal breaker for me.

i'm sorry, but I will go back to the pollution. CM for a few months was really, really bad. I mean possible long-term health problems if you deal with that year-in and year-out. IF CR is say 10% worse, that would mean 2-3 months every year of living with a facemask. it's hard to explain....almost like being in a prison for a few months. particles in the air so dense that only a few places in the world are worse. sorry about being negative on this, but it's not a minimal thing (to me). IF you can get away 2 months out of the year, then it's fantastic.

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Some rather nonsensical and incoherent posts of a trolling nature have been removed.

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Having now lived in both places, here is my take:

CM has the better restaurants, hands down. No comparison to CR.

If you are looking to buy a preexisting house or rent a nice house, then go to CM.

If you like night life and shopping, then CM is the place.

If you want western food, bakeries, western breakfasts, good wine selections, greater selection of western groceries, then again, it's CM.

If you want to feel more like you are living in Thailand and not the West then CR is the better place.

If you hate traffic, CR is the better alternative.

If you want easy access to beautiful countryside, then I vote CR.

If you want a slower pace then, IMHO, go to CR.

If you don't want to be tripping over farang, then CR is better.

In short, CR seems more laid back but there certainly are fewer western conveniences and goodies in the Rai. Personally, I like CR better. I can always make the trip to CM when I have the urge for good western food and a bit more entertainment (clean, family entertainment I mean).

Not sure this applies since Central came on the scene.

He makes 9 points. Central nullifies them all?

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Having now lived in both places, here is my take:

CM has the better restaurants, hands down. No comparison to CR.

If you are looking to buy a preexisting house or rent a nice house, then go to CM.

If you like night life and shopping, then CM is the place.

If you want western food, bakeries, western breakfasts, good wine selections, greater selection of western groceries, then again, it's CM.

If you want to feel more like you are living in Thailand and not the West then CR is the better place.

If you hate traffic, CR is the better alternative.

If you want easy access to beautiful countryside, then I vote CR.

If you want a slower pace then, IMHO, go to CR.

If you don't want to be tripping over farang, then CR is better.

In short, CR seems more laid back but there certainly are fewer western conveniences and goodies in the Rai. Personally, I like CR better. I can always make the trip to CM when I have the urge for good western food and a bit more entertainment (clean, family entertainment I mean).

Not sure this applies since Central came on the scene.

He makes 9 points. Central nullifies them all?

yes:

CM has the better restaurants, hands down. No comparison to CR.

possibly more of them and maybe one or two are better

If you are looking to buy a preexisting house or rent a nice house, then go to CM.

Western style houses for rent and condos are more common in CM than CR but the house in CR wilol probably be cheaper and arguably better environment.

If you like night life and shopping, then CM is the place.

Probably as CM is full of bars packed with willing people for hire male and female. CR has much fewer as we do not need them.

If you want western food, bakeries, western breakfasts, good wine selections, greater selection of western groceries, then again, it's CM.

Arguably with the wine selection at TOPs and bread at at Central and other places and access to imported wine at Tachilik across from MaeSai CR could be better. My breakfast could easily be bacon, sauseges hash browns eggs maple syrup pankakes and toast if I wanted to clog up m

y arteries.

If you want to feel more like you are living in Thailand and not the West then CR is the better place.

Here we can live our lives in daily contact with local people and few live in the western ghettos that CM has. Central provides an oportunity to mix with the very friendly local population and see a little of the more modern Thailand.

If you hate traffic, CR is the better alternative.

Central does have a bit of a parking problem but not a patch on that at Airport Plaza and there is nowhere here you can get stuck in trafic like on HueKau Road in ChiangMai.

If you want easy access to beautiful countryside, then I vote CR.

CR does have beautiful countryside just a kilometer or so from Central which has provided a good meeting place for people to meet up when going on local trips.

If you want a slower pace then, IMHO, go to CR.

Slower here possibly but that just gives time to enjoy it...even in Central people move in a normal manner...not that bbig city rush that they do in CM malls.

If you don't want to be tripping over farang, then CR is better.

Yes we have very few farang lying in the gutters after a hard night out to trip over. Central meets the need of many of us to meet and mix without ending up in the state some seem to have to in ChiangMai.

In short, CR seems more laid back but there certainly are fewer western conveniences and goodies in the Rai. Personally, I like CR better. I can always make the trip to CM when I have the urge for good western food and a bit more entertainment (clean, family entertainment I mean).

There are good modern western conveniences in Central which are kept clean enough for those to enjoy their food in them if they must. What better family entertainment could there be than taking the family to Central and enjoying the food. buying an ice cream and seeing a movie together.

So this should show you how Central has made a slight difference to the lives of people in ChiangMai.

On second thoughts maybve too many of you have moved here allready. CM has more of everything for you.smile.png

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CM likely has better hospitals, if that is important. Reading the OP's post, I would advise CR. More peaceful, you won't get the crowds like Sunday Market, and traffic in CM is a concern to many. However, CM just has a great vibe. walking in old town is like a home-away-from-home, and even all the tourists don't bother me much. I just hope pollution isn't much worse in CR in march and april. that really got me the last few times I was in CM. I was relatively happy with internet in CM, but sometimes will be slow at peak hours. ah, not a deal breaker for me.

i'm sorry, but I will go back to the pollution. CM for a few months was really, really bad. I mean possible long-term health problems if you deal with that year-in and year-out. IF CR is say 10% worse, that would mean 2-3 months every year of living with a facemask. it's hard to explain....almost like being in a prison for a few months. particles in the air so dense that only a few places in the world are worse. sorry about being negative on this, but it's not a minimal thing (to me). IF you can get away 2 months out of the year, then it's fantastic.

thanks for the great advise as well as all the others ...

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CM likely has better hospitals, if that is important. Reading the OP's post, I would advise CR. More peaceful, you won't get the crowds like Sunday Market, and traffic in CM is a concern to many. However, CM just has a great vibe. walking in old town is like a home-away-from-home, and even all the tourists don't bother me much. I just hope pollution isn't much worse in CR in march and april. that really got me the last few times I was in CM. I was relatively happy with internet in CM, but sometimes will be slow at peak hours. ah, not a deal breaker for me.

i'm sorry, but I will go back to the pollution. CM for a few months was really, really bad. I mean possible long-term health problems if you deal with that year-in and year-out. IF CR is say 10% worse, that would mean 2-3 months every year of living with a facemask. it's hard to explain....almost like being in a prison for a few months. particles in the air so dense that only a few places in the world are worse. sorry about being negative on this, but it's not a minimal thing (to me). IF you can get away 2 months out of the year, then it's fantastic.

thanks for the great advise as well as all the others ...

Polution is a problem. In both Chiang Mai and Chiangrai. It can be solved by using airfilters and staying inside on the worst days but the problem exists elswhere. http://www.stateoftheair.org/2012/assets/state-of-the-air2012.pdf even Hawaii had 53.8 unacceptible days according to the report and it is only number 7 in the US.

I do not know a time when Chiangrai had anywhere that number of particulate pollution days. Our ozone is much less than many cities too,

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Hi Kevvy..may I ask where you are moving from I presume from somewhere in Thailand??

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We are moving from chon buri about 40 mimutes from pattaya business will soon finish and time to retire

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A very healthy attitude, if you feel like a change you jump in the car or on a plane and go somewhere else.

I think we've finally summed up the true meaning of retirement. xcool.png.pagespeed.ic.jz1nB6CMOI.png

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