farmerjo 3,368 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Life in Issan is the same as life anywhere else. Just chill out see whats happening and adapt. If you want mince and tatties your knackered. I Sent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Thanks but no thanks. That is probably the worst, most ill thought out advice for mine and my children's future anyone has ever given me. I think I will do what I know is best and move back to the UK when I see fit. Thanks for trying though. Kunmatt, Have your girlfriend or children been to the uk before. Yes, good question. Took my Mrs to UK and she hated it. Took her to the London sites and the West country too . BUT, if I had to live in a village or even a cramped soi, I would hate that. I know farangs that have set up in a village and after the novelty wore off they now hate it. I presume they hate it because they dont have the funds to relocate elsewhere having spent a bucket load already building on family land which will not be sold. Link to post Share on other sites
farmerjo 3,368 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Life in Issan is the same as life anywhere else. Just chill out see whats happening and adapt. If you want mince and tatties your knackered. I Sent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Thanks but no thanks. That is probably the worst, most ill thought out advice for mine and my children's future anyone has ever given me. I think I will do what I know is best and move back to the UK when I see fit. Thanks for trying though. Kunmatt, Have your girlfriend or children been to the uk before. 3 times, for 2 or 3 months each time. She is best friends with my 2 sisters and Skypes my parents more than I do. She doesn't particularly want to live in the UK but, like me, she knows it is the best thing for our children. There are a few Thai restuarants where I live and a Thai market that imports goods from Thailand nd cost similar to the price of goods here. If any Thai could take their kid to get a UK upbringing for free do you really think they wouldn't do it? Nice try. Have another shot... Each to there own Kunmatt, I know my wife wouldn't like to be far from her family. But just having a 3rd world bottom of asia education,she probably wouldn't pass the immigration requirements anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
KunMatt 3,065 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Life in Issan is the same as life anywhere else. Just chill out see whats happening and adapt. If you want mince and tatties your knackered. ISent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Thanks but no thanks. That is probably the worst, most ill thought out advice for mine and my children's future anyone has ever given me. I think I will do what I know is best and move back to the UK when I see fit. Thanks for trying though. Kunmatt,Have your girlfriend or children been to the uk before. 3 times, for 2 or 3 months each time. She is best friends with my 2 sisters and Skypes my parents more than I do. She doesn't particularly want to live in the UK but, like me, she knows it is the best thing for our children. There are a few Thai restuarants where I live and a Thai market that imports goods from Thailand nd cost similar to the price of goods here.If any Thai could take their kid to get a UK upbringing for free do you really think they wouldn't do it?Nice try. Have another shot... Each to there own Kunmatt,I know my wife wouldn't like to be far from her family.But just having a 3rd world bottom of asia education,she probably wouldn't pass the immigration requirements anyway. Yes each to their own, whatever that means in this context. You're welcome to have another shot at me of you think you have anything else to try and talk down to me with or you can just slope off after everything you admitted to in this thread.Hope all that money you saved yourself by living in the poorest part of a 3rd world country and all the golf games you played were worth however your kids turn out in the future. Its all on you, you know? Good luck. Edited September 29, 2013 by KunMatt Link to post Share on other sites
farmerjo 3,368 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Life in Issan is the same as life anywhere else. Just chill out see whats happening and adapt. If you want mince and tatties your knackered. ISent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Thanks but no thanks. That is probably the worst, most ill thought out advice for mine and my children's future anyone has ever given me. I think I will do what I know is best and move back to the UK when I see fit. Thanks for trying though. Kunmatt, Have your girlfriend or children been to the uk before. 3 times, for 2 or 3 months each time. She is best friends with my 2 sisters and Skypes my parents more than I do. She doesn't particularly want to live in the UK but, like me, she knows it is the best thing for our children. There are a few Thai restuarants where I live and a Thai market that imports goods from Thailand nd cost similar to the price of goods here. If any Thai could take their kid to get a UK upbringing for free do you really think they wouldn't do it? Nice try. Have another shot... Each to there own Kunmatt, I know my wife wouldn't like to be far from her family. But just having a 3rd world bottom of asia education,she probably wouldn't pass the immigration requirements anyway. Yes each to their own, whatever that means in this context. You're welcome to have another shot at me of you think you have anything else to try and talk down to me with or you can just slope off after everything you admitted to in this thread. Hope all that money you saved yourself by living in the poorest part of a 3rd world country and all the golf games you played were worth however your kids turn out in the future. Its all on you, you know? Good luck. I missed it,when did you say you were leaving? Link to post Share on other sites
KunMatt 3,065 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Cough ... To everyone, but I'll be honest, KunMatt is in front of mind ... what consideration is given to access by the grandparents / other close relatives? Just know how strong Family connections are in Thailand. Sorry gents ... just clearing my throat .. Sorry mate. Are you a little fellow cuz everyone keeps overlooking you in here!! Edited September 29, 2013 by KunMatt 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KunMatt 3,065 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I missed it,when did you say you were leaving? In about 20 months. Are you mad at me cuz you made yourself look like such a pathetic parent in this thread that you have to keep taking shots at me?? lol Link to post Share on other sites
farmerjo 3,368 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I missed it,when did you say you were leaving? In about 20 months. Are you mad at me cuz you made yourself look like such a pathetic parent in this thread that you have to keep taking shots at me?? lol I'm not mad at you,i think your pro's and cons for the op to move to issarn and raise a family for a sustainable period have been enlightning and entertaining. I guess i wont be winning parent of the year this yearAfter my son has finished his education he may venture down many roads.but one thing is for sure,thats his future,because he will have a profit making enterprise to fall back on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post SlyAnimal 1,151 Posted September 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2013 *Cough* /Puts on moderator hat Please avoid taking pot shots at other members. Different opinions are exactly that, different opinions. The opinion can be discussed or debated, but please don't go down the road of taking things personally or making targeted comments at other members. As I know how one thing can lead to another, and that just leaves everyone with a sour aftertaste. This is the Isaan forum section, we're better than that. Any snide remarks etc can stay in general /takes off moderator hat 3 Link to post Share on other sites
JLCrab 9,146 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It all depends on the individual and the school -- I spend time with a young Isaan girl whose mother speaks only Thai but the young girl can handle herself in English, Chinese, and Japanese... and by young I mean 6 years old. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MJP 7,066 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 24 then. 38 now. Hard working in an industry that's awful but paid okay. Now past it and not well off. Sent from my MotoA953 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lovinglifeinthailand 105 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 *Cough* /Puts on moderator hat Please avoid taking pot shots at other members. Different opinions are exactly that, different opinions. The opinion can be discussed or debated, but please don't go down the road of taking things personally or making targeted comments at other members. As I know how one thing can lead to another, and that just leaves everyone with a sour aftertaste. This is the Isaan forum section, we're better than that. Any snide remarks etc can stay in general /takes off moderator hat good call, I set this post up to get your pro's and con's not a slanging match. Everyone has made some good points for both ways and I look forward to hearing more experience. With regards to education kids with talent and dedication will prosper anywhere and likewise kids can fail anywhere. That is where the parents guidance helps. I still have not made my mind up, all I know is the next 4 years i would like to bring my child up in the village. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MJP 7,066 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 *Cough* /Puts on moderator hat Please avoid taking pot shots at other members. Different opinions are exactly that, different opinions. The opinion can be discussed or debated, but please don't go down the road of taking things personally or making targeted comments at other members. As I know how one thing can lead to another, and that just leaves everyone with a sour aftertaste. This is the Isaan forum section, we're better than that. Any snide remarks etc can stay in general /takes off moderator hat good call, I set this post up to get your pro's and con's not a slanging match. Everyone has made some good points for both ways and I look forward to hearing more experience. With regards to education kids with talent and dedication will prosper anywhere and likewise kids can fail anywhere. That is where the parents guidance helps. I still have not made my mind up, all I know is the next 4 years i would like to bring my child up in the village. We'll all be here if you need help. Sent from my MotoA953 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KunMatt 3,065 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I'm not mad at you,i think your pro's and cons for the op to move to issarn and raise a family for a sustainable period have been enlightning and entertaining. I guess i wont be winning parent of the year this year:(After my son has finished his education he may venture down many roads.but one thing is for sure,thats his future,because he will have a profit making enterprise to fall back on. Great! Edited September 29, 2013 by KunMatt Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post onionluke 511 Posted September 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Hi llit, I would like to relate some experiences with starting up in a village in Issan with a young family , although I guess most of these have already been mentioned . I am 42 , my wife is 39 and our son is now nearly 8 . I work in construction and in 2009 I was laid off from work on the casinos in Macau . I was there with my wife and son , both Thai nationals, as the construction ground to a halt . We had a choice of sitting out the lull in Hong Kong or taking a new direction and spending the time and money we had saved on building a house in Issan . So we packed all our junk into boxes and sent it over to Thailand , only to have it commandeered by customs and hit with a 14000 bhat tax . We flew to Bangkok and after a few days in Pattaya took a pick up truck to Issan ( never ever again ). The village and family were welcoming enough , although I did feel a bad vibe from her eldest brother's wife . We were introduced to a local builder . He had built several farang follies in the village . I priced our house build by finding out how much his other builds' cost and took it from there . The house , fitted out was priced at 750000 , but with land and walls and a gate I would say it came to about 1 300000. I would need to go look for a costs break down . During the house build we lived in the upstairs of my wife's parents house . It is on a nice leafy street. They are nice quiet old folks and I am grateful to them for the time afforded us , even more so for tolerating my bagpipe music ( canned ) . The house was not built on family land, although we did have a look on the farm and even went so far as pegging out a footprint of a typical house build , my wife bought 2 plots a few streets away and so it went without much bother really . I only purchased a second hand Nissan pick up last year for 300 000 bhat , it is a runner . I too bought the bricks and mortar before the car and so had to do a hell of a lot of biking around , and novelty soon wears off . I would say most of the problems brought to our house in the village have concerned myself being a farang but manifested through my sons experiences . He went through a lot there . The village holding pen was just that and I soon learned my boy was not going to learn to read and write there . He was set about a few times and was visited with violence I still cannot credit to 3 and 4 year olds . We moved him to a private preschool in the town 10 kms away . The school was a huge improvement and children of the middle class parents , cops and teachers etc , were friendly . The curriculum as far as I can make out was ok . He did have to put up with name calling and bullying on the school bus / sawngtew and this was from boys whose family new us in the next soi . At this point with my son being nearly 4 years I was not prepared to send him to the town school , he would be in with a tough crowd and on his own . Speaking English ( with a Scots accent ) and the local lingo my son soon became adapt at fitting in . He went full circle from bowing to peer pressure and calling me a farang to now hating being called a farand himself . I think despite all of the experiences my son had he still looks to the village as being his home and where his family live and I feel he enjoyed a long Indian summer that lasted for 3 years . We get back when we can afford it and the house is built well enough to still be standing into my retirement and after I'm gone . I might add I went through this without TV, and if I had listened to my wife we would have bought a house on an estate in Ubon . I wish you all the best llit . Edited September 29, 2013 by onionluke 4 Link to post Share on other sites
farmerjo 3,368 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm not mad at you,i think your pro's and cons for the op to move to issarn and raise a family for a sustainable period have been enlightning and entertaining. I guess i wont be winning parent of the year this year:(After my son has finished his education he may venture down many roads.but one thing is for sure,thats his future,because he will have a profit making enterprise to fall back on. Great! Jeez no wonder you have no friends here Link to post Share on other sites
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