shaurene Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Because it is a Thai. I thought the police and that high ranking minister had sorted all this jet ski shit out, but they are still at it. If it was a Falange that got the better of the fight with the jet ski guy he would be I jail. I get sick a little bit more of this country, the tourists are just 2nd rate with them, they think they would live better without them, I would leave if my Thai wife would come but family come first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. There is no admittance on the Israeli part either - in fact no mention on or about the case from their point of view and yet you pick up on the fact there was no denial. Strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. There was no comment from the Israeli's Israelis full stop There was no statement or implication in the article that the Israelis denied they damaged the jet ski whether or not in fact the jet ski was damaged. People are very quick to rush to judgement of the Thai. Clearly he must have been very angry about something. I took the liberty of correcting your damaged grammar. No charge for that. We are not all perfect like you. Any smart ass who hire a jet ski should go around it with his camera on video. I did the last time and made shaw he see me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tip: Before renting a jet ski. whip out the phone/camera and take shots of the jet ski from all angles. Show the pics to the operator. When you return the jet ski ... there will be no claims of damage. A hassle, yes. But necessary in corrupt Thailand unfortunately. good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Because it is a Thai. I thought the police and that high ranking minister had sorted all this jet ski shit out, but they are still at it. If it was a Falange that got the better of the fight with the jet ski guy he would be I jail. I get sick a little bit more of this country, the tourists are just 2nd rate with them, they think they would live better without them, I would leave if my Thai wife would come but family come first. Since the original question was a non true statement this answer makes no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... Because even thought widely reported, some tourists have no ideas of those scams, and certainly not occurring to such a scale! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Because it is a Thai. I thought the police and that high ranking minister had sorted all this jet ski shit out, but they are still at it. If it was a Falange that got the better of the fight with the jet ski guy he would be I jail. I get sick a little bit more of this country, the tourists are just 2nd rate with them, they think they would live better without them, I would leave if my Thai wife would come but family come first. Your wife would feel the same about your home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Looks like the police sweep did not include the jet ski operators! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Took a road trip to Heaven last week and had a nice chat with God. He asked me how were things in Thailand. I told Him it's the same old s..t everyday here. You can assault people and get away with it here if you are a Thai for that matter even kill them as long as you use a Samurai sword. I asked Him why on earth did He create these cretins. He told me He lost a bet to the Devil in a card game. If He won the Devil had to quit tempting people and if the Devil won God had to create another Hell on earth. Ergo, Thailand. I'm interested to kmow if you live in Thailand? and if you do, why? You seem to have a deep seated hatred and loathing for Thais and Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Read it again. They are clearly referring to things like a civil claim for damage and so on. I am sorry, but you did not answer the question "Why is an assault a non criminal charge?". Clearly they are going to civil court. Read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This case has already been toned down to a non-criminal offence. Surprised it'll even get to court. Will be swept under the carpet as usual. In the end, it will be the court that decide if the case is criminal or not, irrespective of what police say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Good question. Physical assault must be criminal. My wife told me about this yesterday as was reported in Thai media. Taken a while to be reported by the local English press. I searched for it yesterday, found nothing. I'm assuming the "non-criminal" reference has something to do with this case apparently being referred to the new Tourist Court??? I'd say... go the regular criminal way, and put the jet ski guy behind bars for all of about 5 minutes before he's released, and free to go back and do the same thing to the next person stupid enough to rent jet skis at Phuket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Another Thai No Brainer by the look alone. And what is the jet ski association all about ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge?Read it again. They are clearly referring to things like a civil claim for damage and so on. Hang on there, referring to a civil claim with an attack by a person with an object, cannot see getting away with that in a Western Country mate. Like a friend borrows your drill and comes back with a scratch on it you ok hitting him with the handle of the sledge hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 And what is the jet ski association all about ?? Just a guess ... but that would be a transparent attempt to put a "legitimate face" on a corrupt industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tip: Before renting a jet ski. whip out the phone/camera and take shots of the jet ski from all angles. Show the pics to the operator. When you return the jet ski ... there will be no claims of damage. A hassle, yes. But necessary in corrupt Thailand unfortunately. That won't work, the jet ski operator can say the photos you took were taken AFTER you returned the jet ski and hence they can end up being used as evidence against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I seem to remember something about these things having compulsory insurance....or was it a dream? Very interesting point. Owning and operating a vehicle of any sort carries the requirement to have it insured. That should be the very first point made, and/or policies should be reviewed and proper notice given to customers renting; "Be advised that these rented vehicles do not carry any insurance coverage, and the renter is liable for all damage to the vehicle; either pre-existing damage, or damage done during the rental period." Again; excellent point! Why are the police and the Phuket government allowing uninsured vehicles to be used in a business? I cannot help but think enough negative things about the Thai mentality and Thai mind that justifies the way they pollute the term "existence" at certain times like this. I don't know of any car rental company in the world that provides the driver with insurance at no charge. However, they will sell it to you. Again, I don't know why you would make this a Thailand only situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Tip: Before renting a jet ski. whip out the phone/camera and take shots of the jet ski from all angles. Show the pics to the operator. When you return the jet ski ... there will be no claims of damage. A hassle, yes. But necessary in corrupt Thailand unfortunately. That won't work, the jet ski operator can say the photos you took were taken AFTER you returned the jet ski and hence they can end up being used as evidence against you. You have the logic of a Thai. i.e ... That makes no sense at all. Think about it. EDIT: Sorry. Penny dropped. Sarcasm ... Edited September 28, 2013 by Fullstop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSkip Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" Pattaya Is no better...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge?Read it again. They are clearly referring to things like a civil claim for damage and so on. Hang on there, referring to a civil claim with an attack by a person with an object, cannot see getting away with that in a Western Country mate. Like a friend borrows your drill and comes back with a scratch on it you ok hitting him with the handle of the sledge hammer. If you read the OP again you, and some others, would understand there are 2 cases: one criminal for the assault, 1 civil for damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fullstop Posted September 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) This is the thread I'd like to see.... Foreigner plants time bombs in entire jet ski fleet in Phuket. Massive multiple explosions were reported around 6.a.m yesterday morning. The Jet Ski Association of Phuket is filing damage charges against the United Nations.... Reuters Edited September 28, 2013 by Fullstop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 i have often had the urge to have a go with one of these things....but it would,nt be in thailand Very wise. The waters in Thailand must contain so much debris that it is virtually impossible not to damage the jet-skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rafish Posted September 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? Because a Thai is "Never, Ever, Wrong.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" I tell all my family & friends - never visit Phuket; being ordinary folk they could not afford taxis never mind jet-skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis ....Because even thought widely reported, some tourists have no ideas of those scams, and certainly not occurring to such a scale! It's hard to believe there are more than maybe three people left in the world who haven't heard, but I guess there must be... With respect to the pre-rental photo/video thing... Wasn't there a story a few months back where some renters were attacked by a Phuket jet-ski operator for attempting to do precisely that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post H1w4yR1da Posted September 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) ]People are very quick to rush to judgement of the Thai. Clearly he must have been very angry about something.Are you for real? Yet another Thai apologist.Assaulting a guy on his 60's with a beach pole will bring about strong opinions. There's no 'rush to judgement of the Thai' as you call it. The Thai was obviously angry at the Israeli's refusal to be scammed. Edited September 28, 2013 by H1w4yR1da 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendphil Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... TAT...Tourist.Authority.of.Thailand...needs.to.make.a.little.(or.not.so.little!).booklet.for.tourists:"Be.Careful.in.Thailand!" Of.course,it.would.scare.people.off...There.are.getting.to.be.just.too.many.things.to.be.on.guard.for.here. AND,of.course,TAT.could.and.would.never.do.such.a.thing..... Thus,no.warning.for.tourists.about.jet-ski.rentals....Who.is.going.to.warn.them? (please.excuse.my.keyboard,which.is.lacking.a.space.key.thus.the.excessive.use.of.periods.(period)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) It appears that the Governor of Phuket can not, or will not control the organized crime.'Conttol the organized crime'?And why would he want to do that? He's a part of it! Edited September 28, 2013 by H1w4yR1da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehaigh Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 just hanging around Patong hospital with a video camera would make a great reality show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marell Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Wonder how much the bail was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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