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So if I smacked him back, and got charged, would I get a 1000 baht fine? If so sounds worth it to me!

I think we all (except Stevenl) know the answer to that one! laugh.png

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You all might makes jokes, but I consider this real progress. You have to realise that fines in Thailand seem low, but that is just the real Thai economy (not the tourist economy).

This is the part I really like ...

“If Mr Danaichet is caught committing a crime during his probation, he faces a penalty of three months in prison,” the officer explained.

Totally agree.

First, there was moaning that nothing was done, now the moaning continues.

I am not familiar with the Thai penal code but I should suspect that fines in general are lower than say in Oz or the USA. Lots of Thais for which THB 1,000 are a fair chunk of cash.

Again, totally agree. This at the very least is a step in the right direction and shows some will from the Thai authorities to address such stupid acts as have been perpetrated by these morons. Let us hope that this is the start of a clean up - we can only live in hope. The longest journey begins with the first step as they say.

Your optimism might be well-founded if this were the first time a Thai has had received ANY punishment for assaulting a foreigner, and/or the fine, while small, was at least higher than what had been imposed in the past.

But check this: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/566898-phuket-tuk-tuk-driver-gets-suspended-sentence-for-attack-on-tourist/

14 months ago, assault on a tourist results in 3 month suspended sentence and 3,000 Baht fine. Now an assault results in only 500 Baht fine. At that rate, by Christmas foreigners will actually PAY for the privilege of being beaten up! smile.png

And TAT will release a statement that tourists are flocking for the privilege of being beaten up by a scammer of their choice.

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If I am not wrong the fine for fighting is 500. 2 persons = 1000.

You all seem to forget we foreigners are not that liked here and the country is moving away from being the so friendly Land of Smiles. Even the service in many restaurants, coffeeshops etc... Is far below what I would receive in most European countries. Its decline, no progress. Nevertheless good there is a tourist court. Its a good first step.

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1000 baht fine ?????????????? Is that a joke ? or a typing mistake ?

 

Actually putting it in context, 1000 baht isn't a bad Fine it all. if you consider how much he makes in a day, that will keep him aware.

 

If you don't look at these things in context the whole point is moot.

 

 

 

Obviously you don't live here, don't see these scammers on a daily basis, nor do you know how much they make, nor how much influence these guys have. 500 baht for one assault on a tourist is a small fraction of a half hour jet ski rental.  These guys along with the tuk tuk and black plate taxis are thugs, plain and simple and operate as if they are above the law.

True I hated Phuket and that other P place. I opted for the country.

I never understood what people see in those two dumps.

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Come on - Its the appearance of justice

What more do you want, or expect?

Oh yes. 'Makes me want to jump right on the very next flight to Phuket, hail a mafia taxi straight to the beach, and rent the first jet ski I see! I just hope I won't have to wait in line; I expect there'll be huge crowds now.

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Again the Thai law cannot be set for different provinces as this will be decried swiftly as an insult to human rights by some.

Phuket is well known to be a tourist rip, some of the folks there do make a quick buck out of an unsuspecting tourist.

However tourists have choices and they choose to come despite it being so well documented on the web. Many of the negative folks decry they should be protected would do better staying at home at their nanny states.

1000baht may not sound like a lot to a limited some in Phuket but try explaining that to a som Tum seller here in one of the smaller provinces who makes 100-200 baht profit a day that 1000 baht is not a great fine and you create an uproar

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Neither is anyone forcing the Thai to rent jet skis to tourists... There's more involved here than a small serving of som tam. AND there was violence (not something one very often hears said about street food purchases...). If the judge could have awarded up to a 4K baht fine and some jail time, and instead awarded a fine representing a fraction of the rental fee not to mention the scam amount, and not a day of jail time for an actual BATTERY, then it seems to me these tourists simply did not get justice.

Yes, TIT, and that's their justice. That doesn't mean it's not backward and ineffective, and certainly NOT to be relied upon or considered protection by visitors.

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You all might makes jokes, but I consider this real progress. You have to realise that fines in Thailand seem low, but that is just the real Thai economy (not the tourist economy).

This is the part I really like ...

“If Mr Danaichet is caught committing a crime during his probation, he faces a penalty of three months in prison,” the officer explained.

Totally agree.

First, there was moaning that nothing was done, now the moaning continues.

I am not familiar with the Thai penal code but I should suspect that fines in general are lower than say in Oz or the USA. Lots of Thais for which THB 1,000 are a fair chunk of cash.

Again, totally agree. This at the very least is a step in the right direction and shows some will from the Thai authorities to address such stupid acts as have been perpetrated by these morons. Let us hope that this is the start of a clean up - we can only live in hope. The longest journey begins with the first step as they say.

Your optimism might be well-founded if this were the first time a Thai has had received ANY punishment for assaulting a foreigner, and/or the fine, while small, was at least higher than what had been imposed in the past.

But check this: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/566898-phuket-tuk-tuk-driver-gets-suspended-sentence-for-attack-on-tourist/

14 months ago, assault on a tourist results in 3 month suspended sentence and 3,000 Baht fine. Now an assault results in only 500 Baht fine. At that rate, by Christmas foreigners will actually PAY for the privilege of being beaten up! smile.png

Do a search and you will find many other incidents where the perpetrators walked away without any fine.

In other words: your example is meaningless. But it sounds good.

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It maybe the law but will it be a deterrent for the future ?

It is a start but time will tell it's often the case everywhere that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. And as far as i can see the losing face in these circumstances (Thai v Tourists ) it is no deterrent just wishful thinking.

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Delighted to hear the news of the arrested but disappointed with the amount of fine. Me thinks, I year lock up.

That will teach a lots of scammers to be aware of getting hefty justice. They all can afford 1,000 bt easy.

They are getting loads of baht everyday.

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Progress of sorts and the new court is a very welcome prop for tourists.

But let's put the derisory fine of B1,000 into perspective. It should have been B100,000.

For a poor Thai B1,000 it is a chunk of money....for a Jet ski operator it is a pittance when you scam and cheat the renter out of up to B50,000 per rental.

At that rate it will take 50 court appearances to drop the proceeds of just a single scam.

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You all might makes jokes, but I consider this real progress. You have to realise that fines in Thailand seem low, but that is just the real Thai economy (not the tourist economy).

This is the part I really like ...

“If Mr Danaichet is caught committing a crime during his probation, he faces a penalty of three months in prison,” the officer explained.

I am willing to concede that it is progress but not much. I guess how ever ineffective it is a start needs to be begun. If that was all they were going to do what was the point in rushing it through while the victims were still here?

What did the victims receive from it? Could not there testimony been written out and witnessed by the police officers and then presented to the court in the usual time line for these type of charges.

I tend to agree and disagree with you on the Thai economy. Some how I can not see a Jet ski operator in the same economical sense as a field hand in the rice paddies.

But yes the two month jail time hanging over their head is a good thing.

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For the first hit... But if he does it again within 2 yrs, then he will be facing jail time

Is is great... Perhaps less than he deserved, but a least it went through the system very quickly and no 'damages' seemed to be paid by the tourists

So clearly far far better than the old system of 'shake down at the Police station'

So still call it a win...

If this happens again and again, then there will soon. Be a lot of jet ski operators, taxi , Tuk Tuk drivers on probation before too long...

Once they are on probation and looking at Jail time for repeat offense, may cause them to think twice

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You all might makes jokes, but I consider this real progress. You have to realise that fines in Thailand seem low, but that is just the real Thai economy (not the tourist economy).

This is the part I really like ...

If Mr Danaichet is caught committing a crime during his probation, he faces a penalty of three months in prison, the officer explained.

Maybe so, however 1,000 Baht is an insult . These people were attacked with a weapon. Furthermore, these jet ski operators make a significant amount of profit excluding their damage scams and 1,000 Baht simply relates to one hour jet ski hire. And of course lets not forget that we have the word of the authorities that should this thug commit another act over the followng three months he faces jail time. Yeah sure. Just another example of the hypocracy of this country.

Swift justice my ass.

For sure 1,000 baht fine might seem an insult, however the fine penalties are set by the Thai police system and are universal across all Thailand. The fines take no account of individual income or personal circumstances. I would expect that compensation would also have to paid for medical expenses, but that has not been reported by media. For all those condemning the fine level, so how much would a road offense ticket cost in your home country ? Here in Thailand it's 3 or 5 hundred baht. That seems a bargain to me.

Obviously that's not true. If a farang assaults two Thais, the fine will definitely not be 1,000 Baht.

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